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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
                        <link>https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/home-defense-2/paged/8/#post-371052</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 08:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This works for me :)NOTICESHIFT WORKER SLEEPINGPLEASE DO NOT DISTURB


Interesting. While that would prevent unexpected disturbances, I suspect your goal is to leave would-be perpetrators wo...]]></description>
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This works for me :)<br>NOTICE<br>SHIFT WORKER SLEEPING<br>PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB
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Interesting. While that would prevent unexpected disturbances, I suspect your goal is to leave would-be perpetrators wonder if there might be someone home?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2020 03:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This works for me :)NOTICESHIFT WORKER SLEEPINGPLEASE DO NOT DISTURB]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This works for me :)<br>NOTICE<br>SHIFT WORKER SLEEPING<br>PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>squizzy</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2019 05:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Turnip,Just a couple of comments on what you&#039;ve written:1. Regardless of the situation, shooting anyone is employing the use of deadly force. This may be legally justified only if it was ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Turnip,<br><br>Just a couple of comments on what you've written:<br><br>1. Regardless of the situation, shooting anyone is employing the use of deadly force. This may be legally justified only if it was reasonable for you to believe that your life (or the life of another) was in immediate danger. <br><br>Your idea of shooting a shotgun on the ground immediately before the target is a good one. In-fact Police are trained in the benefits of such a low shot. This is especially effective in dispersing people (particularly if they are on gravel or dirt) as stones and debris are scattered adding additional projectiles.<br><br>2. Dogs are effective for early warning. They offer little consequence to an armed breacher. As a tactical team assaulter, I've taken out attack dogs on several occasions with the use of a firearm or knife without issue. Interestingly enough, their use is common in drug labs and motorcycle gang clubhouses. There's a good chance that you have to deal with a dog in a police raid.<br><br>As I suspect that you are already aware, the owner of the dog may be held criminally and civilly responsible for the dog's actions. Signs of warning often afford little protection to the owner. Just saying...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
                        <link>https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/home-defense-2/paged/8/#post-370621</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 00:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ok first off let me say while I did take the time to read every last post on this topic, 2 things have stood out and I can only address it from my point only...1: the act of shooting a perpe...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Ok first off let me say while I did take the time to read every last post on this topic, 2 things have stood out and I can only address it from my point only...<br>1: the act of shooting a perpetrator in the act of trespassing into the home. If it’s an SHTF situation I would just shoot to kill. Really cut and dry right there. In a non SHTF situation I would use the 12 gauge and aim for the shins. Take a knee or a foot or anything in between I would care not. Are they going to die, I doubt it. Now IMO this is a good tactic as well as repercussions from this event would be tremendous anyway. Infection, falling lower on the hiarcy in the group they belong too, becoming a dependent to the group the are a part of, sending a message to the other group or people if there is any, did I mention dog food?  My dogs need to eat in such a situation too and the less food I need to provide helps me and mine!<br>2: Dogs. And I do mean plural on this. Getting a guard dog is great but we all know they do better in pairs or better yet a group. I’m not talking run of the mill dogs here. Don’t get me wrong, all will sound the alarm as well as give the perp something to think about so I’m not saying one is better than another here. I would, and do, think over 100lbs for sure. Now a LSG will do a better job than a Lab although I have seen some Labs I would never cross as well,.. IMO dogs should be of a combo of LSG and Guards. There are a few that come to mind and I’ll let your conclusions come to you on that one. First and foremost on dogs is that they should not be of the roaming type. I prefer mine close to home and not seen from the road. I live rural and you would need to be on the property past my gate ( trespass) but I’m sure you will hear them as they can see you but not visa versa. The sign on the gate says GUARD DOG ON DUTY   The sign is self explanatory and let’s the person know1 it’s a guard dog and 2 it’s on duty. Pretty self explanatory I think. I could be guarding gold, elderly, kids, guns, money, disabled or many other things. Doesn’t matter it’s self explanatory. You keep the dogs close so they cannot be poisoned. Lured, not around, ID’d or many other reasons. They need to stay somewhat close to do their job. <br><br>I really don’t worry too much about the bars on windows and plates on door jams so much but like I say I’m rural and it’s why I do what I do. A dear or person for that matter cannot get within hundreds of meters from the property. Get the right dogs and one would be just fine<br><br>Turnip]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>Turnip Volume</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
                        <link>https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/home-defense-2/paged/8/#post-369249</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2018 17:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have to put in a plug for a book I recently purchased.The book is called, No More Mr. Nice-Guy and it&#039;s written by Barry Holland.  I met Mr. Holland this past weekend at a Canadian Cowboy ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have to put in a plug for a book I recently purchased.<br>The book is called, No More Mr. Nice-Guy and it's written by Barry Holland.  I met Mr. Holland this past weekend at a Canadian Cowboy Challenge event and we got to talking.  During our conversation he mentioned the book and showed me a copy.  After about 2 minutes of skimming through it, I bought a copy.  By noon the next day, I had read the entire thing.  <br><br>The book is a real eye opener.  It's about the legalities of protecting yourself, your family and your property in Canada.  For every legal question raised, he quotes Criminal Code sections, Supreme court decisions and case law to support his points.  The book also provides some tactical advise but the real value, in my opinion, is in the legal discussions.  <br><br>It turns out, we have far more rights when it comes to self-defence and defence of property than we realize.  The authorities just try to discourage us from exercising those rights.  I do know that if I am ever put into that position, the first thing I'm going to do, is lend the book to my lawyer.<br><br>I talked to a few people who know Mr. Holland and did a short internet search of him and learned a little about him, none of it was bad.  Google the book title and author and it'll lead you to the site where you can purchase the book.  It's well worth it.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>tazweiss</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
                        <link>https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/home-defense-2/paged/8/#post-368511</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Here’s a device that I find works very well. 
I have tried lots of stuff like this but they never meet the claimed range, never, in the real world expect half what they claim for range, and ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Here’s a device that I find works very well.  <br><br><a href="https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/">https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/</a></blockquote>

I have tried lots of stuff like this but they never meet the claimed range, never, in the real world expect half what they claim for range, and as I have found none seem to be able to go through thick evergreens that are between the transmiter and reciever.<br>If I could find something that would go 500 feet, through mature spruce and bush I would be happy.</blockquote>

 Your correct, spruce and heavy bush do limit range. I find these perfect for Semi open areas and can provide a heads up. Either for those of us with no eyes in the back of our head or when you doze off. I have had good results for 100 feet in hardwood forest..<br>So to put them around the house would  help, if one was out manning a spot out in bush and wanted a little extra set of eyes, entrance to a laneway and line of sight is clear etc.  Long range devices are either restricted or very costly.   Now, there are some very creative folks on this site so if it was a permanent setup, then you could start rigging up solar powered sensors and use repeaters to relay signals.  Run a wire up a tree for better range...   <br><br>Or use a cheap 8,16,32 zone home alarm system and hardware exterior grade motions.<br><br>Of course electrical storms can creat some issues but like everything, there are risks and efforts in time or money to make things work. <br><br>Dogs , cat.. all do a good job when trained or have a natural ability.  No manic bullets here, just options I have found that can work for certain situations.  <br><br>I have deployed mini board cameras of 3/4 inch square with 1/16 dot for a lens, wired up to simple quad wire ( two cables for power and two for video signal and connected to DVR and used motion features with audible alarm feature. Put the cam in a watertight enclosure and bobs my uncle. Not supposed to work in cold but I have had less issues with them thean some 1k cameras.  I had one cam outside running in heat and cold for four years and no prob at all.  Today they are cheap and are perfect for permitted surveillance.  If you have a good line of sight, set one up with wireless transmitter and solar setup and transmit 1000 feet to your house.   I have access to expensive kit or cheap and I find that with a little ingenuity and extra effort, you can make up some pretty good systems for around a large piece of property.   The thing to remember is redundancy, not trust any one system and understand limitations or potential for false alarms.  I have seen people demand to much out of a system and when false alarms start coming in, they ignore ALL signals and effort becomes a waste of time.   So don’t ask to much, expect some false alarms and work out the kinks or redeploy to avoid them.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 14:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Here’s a device that I find works very well. 
I have tried lots of stuff like this but they never meet the claimed range, never, in the real world expect half what they claim for range, and ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Here’s a device that I find works very well.  <br><br><a href="https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/">https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/</a></blockquote>

I have tried lots of stuff like this but they never meet the claimed range, never, in the real world expect half what they claim for range, and as I have found none seem to be able to go through thick evergreens that are between the transmiter and reciever.<br>If I could find something that would go 500 feet, through mature spruce and bush I would be happy.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>peppercorn</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Here’s a device that I find works very well.  Four motions reporting to one receiver unit. 1,2,3,4 lights on unit with vibrate mode as well.    Depending on your setup in a remote location o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here’s a device that I find works very well.  Four motions reporting to one receiver unit. 1,2,3,4 lights on unit with vibrate mode as well.    Depending on your setup in a remote location or suburban environment, they can be a nice little heads up. Nine volt batteries. <br><br>Obviously deer...  can trip but if you installed them on a laneway or even in back yard, you could set up so you get a series of trips as a person or vehicle gets closer on a lane or foot path.  Yes, I know, some of us would be creeping along forest floor in grillie suits and take a day to do a thousand feet, but real world putz and buddies half brain dead would take easy path.   For those worried about pros, I suggest much higher levels of detection.  Whether one  can afford the tech or have the need is another thing.<br><br><a href="https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/">https://www.spypoint.com/EN/products/motion-detection/</a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2018 08:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Tamper proof hinges are fairly common. They keep the pin from being &quot;easily&quot; removed opening up the hinge.If you can&#039;t find them at a local hardware store, there are many Door Hardware store...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Tamper proof hinges are fairly common. They keep the pin from being "easily" removed opening up the hinge.<br><br>If you can't find them at a local hardware store, there are many Door Hardware stores out there and they can propose something for your specific application.<br><br>Your door is only as strong as the weakest point. Hinges and strike plates are usually that point.  But I've seen mag locks on commercial doors which nothing will breach..but the doors have these big beautiful full glass lites in them...that a hammar could easily break through. lol</blockquote>

Love mag locks! Your right, the frame will tear off before you seperate some of them.  The glass dorr thing is not due to desire to really keep people out, its the deigner who wanted glass but still needed a card acces controlled entry system.   But put them on solid core metal doors and you have one hell of a solid door.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://canadianpreppersnetwork.com/community/security-and-defense/">Security and Defense</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Home defense</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2018 07:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Tamper proof hinges are fairly common. They keep the pin from being &quot;easily&quot; removed opening up the hinge.If you can&#039;t find them at a local hardware store, there are many Door Hardware store...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tamper proof hinges are fairly common. They keep the pin from being "easily" removed opening up the hinge.<br><br>If you can't find them at a local hardware store, there are many Door Hardware stores out there and they can propose something for your specific application.<br><br>Your door is only as strong as the weakest point. Hinges and strike plates are usually that point.  But I've seen mag locks on commercial doors which nothing will breach..but the doors have these big beautiful full glass lites in them...that a hammar could easily break through. lol]]></content:encoded>
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