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(@anonymous)
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For those planning the possibility of having to bug out, building a remote cabin on Crown (or your remote property) maybe an option. Two years ago my wife and I packed building materials (17 trips) to a remote location only accessible by horse. For less than 5K plus the cost of a six week recovery from a broken ankle, a comfortable cabin complete with a airtight wood stove was finally constructed. A couple of times a year we head up with more supplies and spend a night or two 'honeymooning it'.



   
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albertaborn
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Good stuff


Things I say are my opinion, which is like belly buttons everybody has one.
Anything I say is not meant to anger or offend just to encourage discussion between adults.


   
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(@anonymous)
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I may need to be corrected but to the best of my knowledge it is illegal to construct any type of permanent shelter on Crown land. If you do so you run the risk of prosecution and fines as well as the cost to remove the structure. At most you can occupy the same site for a maximum of 21 days. "Generally, camping is allowed free on Crown land for up to 21 days at any one site, except where posted. To qualify for a separate site which can be occupied for an additional 21 days, a second camp site must be at least 100 metres from the first site."



   
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(@anonymous)
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Unless of course you have a Trappers Cabin Permit on your line or a Bait Harvesters Permit.....

Or again as I've stated; "or your remote property".



   
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(@crashed)
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Looks like a great little spot! Nice and Cozy and just simply beautiful. Now I would say perfect if you told me the supplies all had to hauled in on your horses. 😀



   
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(@quietman)
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My good freind at the store always asks me;
"Staying out of trouble?"
To which I answer with a $I-I I T eating grin...
"Nope, not getting caught... lol lol lol!"

I as you own that crown land and in court with the peoper argument and knowledge of the law will win. And they know it. As with many laws on the books they depend on those who will bow and say "Yes Sir. I'm so sorry for testing your eminense."

Remember we were taught in school all about Darwin, and since in the media that the west won the cold war.
Please attempt to think and act for yourself.


Hmmm, maybe I should rethink the quiet part...


   
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(@crashed)
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I have heard so many differnt "opinions" about building tree stands etc on crown land. I say opinions because I have not been able to find any actual official documentation. If anyone has anything offical I would appricate it just for knowledge. Until then my opinion is be respectful and not so obvious. 😀



   
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(@anonymous)
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British Columbia Land Act Current to 2012....." A person commits an offence if the person does any of the following:

(a) occupies or possesses Crown land without lawful authority;

(b) uses Crown land without lawful authority;

(c) being the holder of a lease, right of way, easement, licence of occupation, permit or other disposition issued under this Act, uses Crown land for a purpose not provided for in the disposition;

(d) is guilty of an act or default by which a lease, right of way, easement, licence of occupation, permit or other disposition issued under this Act may be terminated;

(e) constructs on Crown land a building, structure, enclosure or other works, or does or performs any dredging, excavation or filling, without the authorization of the minister;

(f) abandons on Crown land any vehicle or vessel without the authorization of the minister;

(g) unlawfully interferes with or removes a sign erected by or on behalf of the minister.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Your not going to be calling Elizabeth or Charlie are you Bear?

Huh?



   
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(@anonymous)
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Since we like to quote the law, here are some more everyone better adhere to:

: The BEAR Bill C-68......AKA Gun Registry

·         30% of a radio stations content must be "Canadian Content"

·         You may not pay for a fifty-cent item with only pennies.

·         Citizens may not publicly remove bandages.

·         It is illegal for clear or non-dark sodas to contain caffeine.

Alberta Provincial Laws

·         Businesses must provide rails for tying up horses.

·         Wooden logs may not be painted.

·         It is illegal to set fire to the wooden leg of a wooden legged man

·         You may never use dice to play craps.

City Laws

·         If you are released from prison, it is required that you are given a handgun with bullets and a horse, so you can ride out of town.

British Columbia Provincial Laws

·         It is illegal to kill a sasquatch.

New Brunswick Provincial Laws

·         Driving on the roads is not allowed.

Nova Scotia Provincial Laws

·         When raining, a person may not water his/her lawn.

Ontario Provincial Laws

·         The speed limit is 80 kph for cars, but bicyclists have the right of way.

City Laws

Etobicoke

·         Bylaw states that no more than 3.5 inches of water is allowed in a bathtub.

Cobourg

·         If you have a water trough in your front yard it must be filled by 5:00 a.m.

Gananoque

·         Homeowners are responsible for clearing snow off of municipal sidewalks.

Guelph

·         The city is classified as a no-pee zone.

Kanata

·         The colour of house and garage doors is regulated by city bylaws (a purple door get you a fine). It is also illegal to have a clothes line in your backyard.

·         You can't work on your car in the street.

Oshawa

·         It's illegal to climb trees.

·         Homeowners are responsible for clearing snow off of municipal sidewalks. If sidewalks is not cleaned within 24 hours after a snowfall, city workers will clean it and the cost will be placed on the homeowners tax bill.

Ottawa

·         It is illegal to eat ice-cream on Bank Street on a Sunday.

Toronto

·         You can't drag a dead horse down Yonge St. on a Sunday.

Uxbridge

·         Residents are not allowed to have an Internet connection faster than 56k.

Wawa

·         You may not paint a ladder as it will be slippery when wet.

·         It is illegal to show public affection on Sunday.

Quebec Provincial Laws

·         It is illegal to turn right on a red light at any time.

·         All business signs in the province of Quebec must be in French. If the business operator wishes to have English on the sign, the French must be at least twice as large as the English is. There are no laws governing the usage of other languages on signs. -Bill 101 (Passed 1976)

·         No language other than French is permitted to be shown out doors.

City Laws

Beaconsfield

·         It is considered an offence to have more than two colours of paint on your house.

·         You may not own a log cabin.

Montréal

·         The Queen Elizabeth Hotel must feed your horse freely when you rent a room.

·         You may not wash your car in the street.

·         You may not park a car in such a way that it is blocking your own driveway.

·         "For Sale" signs are not permitted in the windows of moving vehicles.

·         Cars parked in public places must be locked, and their windows must be down to less than the width of a hand.

·         One's rear license plate may not be protected by glass or plastic.

·         You may not swear in French.

·         Citizens may not relieve themselves or spit on the street. Punishable by a fine of over 100 Canadian dollars.

Outremont

·         Not only do all exterior painting jobs require a permit (for colour) but, for instance, the City went to Appeals Court over the exact type of division inside a window frame.



   
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(@anonymous)
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"crashed" ask for some official documentation. I was simply providing what he asked for. I find your comment to be belittling and condescending at best. Where the use of Crown Land is discussed people here will many times act on what they see as "fact". It would be a shame for someone to follow your advice and end up losing what they have put into building something where it is illegal... materials, labour as well as costs for removal or disposal and a fine. Or are you saying it is ok to pick and choose which laws should be obeyed based on your interpretation of their usefulness or validity. Laws exist for a reason and at the time they were enacted they were valid. Some may seem silly now but if you want them changed then do so in a legal manner. The laws regarding use of Crown land are there to benefit us all as well as the Crown. I believe that if everyone decided for themselves that they could build whatever they wanted where they wanted it would be complete anarchy. In that scenario why wouldn't I just take your place too if I want it? Or is that a law that you feel should be enforced??



   
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(@anonymous)
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Come on now Bear, I was just tugging your PP. 😀

If you followed the yellow brick road on my previous post regarding a legal permit and licence, it was obvious with a little research.

You read an online PDF, pay 40 dollars, (use to be) challenge a multiple choice question test and VIOLA!.... a legal trap line in Alberta. Or you can actually take a trappers course.

As Shell Busey use to say, "It's just that easy".

Peace bro.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Thanks for your clarification. It is sometimes hard to "read between the lines". Sadly even though we need one another even if it is to learn and share information there is an element of the "show me" attitude. That is show me who you are. The kind of person you are and what makes you tick. That said I would rather find out now than in the middle of a pile of crap...LOL !!! I again thank you for clarification. I wouldn't want someone in a group who demonstrated the ideal of picking and choosing which rules to follow. Very bad form old boy..LMAO.

Peace and Cheers.



   
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