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(@enuff)
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When you watch the prepper show in the states they are planning to live like that forever but in England on the show they plan for 6 months to a year before gov't gets back in control....after living through WWI and WWII the older generation have a pretty good idea what's it like to manage on very little. How long are you prepping for? How long should a person prep for?

I have, in some areas, planned for about 3 years...ie food storage, candles and with other things I can go on indefinitely ie...drinking water, wood heat, foraging for food, garden, own enough shoes, boots and clothes to last me till I die. I need to buy a bike for transportation in the good seasons.

If I get sick or hurt then I'm screwed....long way to hospital. Back in the 50's one of my neighbours got his legs cut off working on some machinery and they had to put him in a horse and wagon with each of his stumps packed into a sack of flour and take him over country to the hospital....he live and had a family and is one of the old families out here. Just died last year.



   
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(@girlcancan)
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I'm working towards 6 weeks right now. There are four of us in my family (plus our dog). There are aspects of my preps where I have up to a year. I'm finding food to be the hardest obstacle for me since we eat what we store, some weeks I'm at 6 weeks then others I'm not. Maybe I should start planning for 8 weeks to give us a buffer? 6 months sounds like a better option and we will be working towards that in the future. One step at a time.



   
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The Island Retreat
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1 year. Enough time for a collapse, (worst case) die off, and things to settle down. If it's long term, it gives you time to actually harvest some basic crops (standing apple trees/berries/animals, etc. All depends on what time/type of a problem pops up. But one year should cover the basics....

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(@endangeredspecies)
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i prep enough to pass trough harsh winter , so around 6 month
but personaly my real plan its to bug out so i prep more about mobility
carry 6 month of food its impossible ..



   
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(@farmgal)
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We aim for a min of two years.. but I would like more..


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(@blackknight88)
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Well there are 8 of us in this family so a year is what I've prepped for.
We take things out of the preps and rotate them with new as we eat. That way the preps stay fresh...
Adding fuel portable stoves and all the other things never seems to end. Redundancy.
I've always had a plan, a back up for that plan.. etc.


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Indefinite...plus 6 people. My goal is plus 10. "To those much has been given, much will be expected". That said, no one would like what they were eating. Enough to keep eyes from sinking and tummies from distending but no one would want to be here. I wouldn't want to be here. The first year would be brutal. People would remember that year till they died. I cant judge my food store but I guess less than a year on a pessimist day. Most of my trust is in what our land provides but I am a realist about it. I've had enough years to examine every potential calorie. Give me people and I can produce more.


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(@rt_survive)
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I'm good for 3 months right now, just me and my spouse. Most amenities like candles and TP, we're good for a year.

Could drop by the store, be back in an hour, and be good for another 3 months with food. Water shortage is not possible at my location.



   
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(@kootenay-kid)
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We're good for a solid 8 months, but on some areas, like TP and other paper products, are good for 18 months. Got a storage space crunch happening now, though, as we live in a mobile home. I'm working on that one.......wish I had a basement.



   
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(@enuff)
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So how much TP would a family of 4 need for a year? One double roll a day? and if there is no power do you have an alternative bathroom ie outhouse?

I have an outhouse and my septic is gravity fed so I could still use the shower and sinks in the cabin but the flush toilette is out and so is the running water. 'The only running water is me running down to the lake and back with a bucket. 😆



   
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dollyndrew
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TP for 4 - yes I have that info... But my family does poo a lot.

It takes us exactly one month to go through 24 of the Royal Velor packs that r the equivalent of 64 single rolls.

( I call BS on the 24 = 64 rubbish!)



   
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(@anonymous)
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I think that one has to consider the amount of calories consumed is the measure of how long ones supplies would last. Is everyone measuring by calorie count or by meals they can prepare from their stockpile? I have often thought of how to determine this properly and calorie count seems the only logical answer. Yet to do this properly, there has to be a way to change ones figures on the fly to suit the conditions that finally occur.

If the power goes out, you would have to work hard to gather heating and cooking materials, food and water. If there is an outbreak, you just sit and wait inside your retreat,etc. One requires double the daily calories while the other requires maybe half the daily amount.

Next you have to know in advance what you are short of to correct the issue before some situation does occur. You have to remove the guesswork and stick to a well thought out program of purchasing and storage. Then you have to have multiple locations as a backup measure. Therefore each location has to have it's own balanced inventory to function properly. The list goes on and on. A system has to be created to meet each event as it may occur and be capable of quick revamping without too much effort. This means organizing much in smaller quantities from the start...not bulk containers of just 1 item...Yes?

It is this approach that I wrote my program on. I don't know if you agree with this concept. If not, tell me why? It seems the most logical but also the hardest to track. I now have most of the inventory section done too. I have plugged in some data to work with and create 20 separate containers (or locations, Bobs, whatever you wish to measure by). The idea is rough but it seems logical so far.

There are still many empty areas that I need to complete, but the sheet is functional to use even now. Nothing is locked, so it is easy to mess up the formulas, so have backups in case this happens. Anyways, I hope some of you will give me input as to whether this is useful so far.



   
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(@enuff)
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Knuckle - Wow! You have done a lot of work and put a lot of thought in this. I eat differently than you, Whole foods Plant base, so I would have different items but again wow!

So in the 1880 what was used for TP.....squares of cloth. Keep used ones in a bucket with vinegar in it and wash and lay out to dry. This is one thing I came up with. Everything would have to become reusable. Or a bucket of water by the toilette and your left hand.

Calories a person would need to eat each day would also depend on if or how much over weight they are. Lets face it in todays world of SAD eating habits people are getting bigger and bigger so you could take into consideration how long before they would finish burning up their fat storage and would really need more calories intake so they are not now starving.



   
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(@enuff)
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One thing I would do with your list is simplify it....meaning instead of name brand cereal have steel cut oats, have the ingredients to make the cereal not something that came from a factory with so many different unpronounceable unfood stuff in it.

If you don't already, cook from scratch....your main meal which you should have in the morning maybe stew.....what ever meat is available and vegetables that are in season. Leaf greens in the summer and root veg in the winter.

Salads - there won't be factory made dressings after a short time and what you have stocked up with will get used out or become out dated so make your own or eat with out dressings....I sometimes will go and sit in the garden and just pick and eat right there....nothing like peas and their pods right off the vine.

Breads find a recipe that you like that has the fewest ingredients.....baking powder biscuits or roti (unoven flat bread) or banuck are other choices.

Meat will not be coming from the super market it will be what you raise or hunt....do you know how to butcher an animal? Most people don't. Another alternative that stores well is dried beans. You don't have to eat meat to get your protein needs you can get all you need from beans and vegetables.

We will be going back to basics and for me I eat mostly that way and am healthier than when I was eating SAD unfoods. I'm not trying to change the way you are eating, its just that if tshtf we will be going back to the 1880's ways of living and if we don't learn and try/practice that way of life when we really have to change we aren't prepared. 🙂



   
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(@oldtimegardener)
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So in the 1880 what was used for TP.....squares of cloth. Keep used ones in a bucket with vinegar in it and wash and lay out to dry. This is one thing I came up with. Everything would have to become reusable. Or a bucket of water by the toilette and your left hand.

Sheets make for nice wipes. Been buying them by the armfuls at 2nd hand store...already softened down from many washes as bed sheets. 🙂

Not only good for wipes, but also as pads for the ladies that are in need. Same thing, place in bucket of water to soak out, then wash.
BTW, don't sew 'em up in pads....learn to fold them for fit.
They dry way faster and much, much easier to wash out.

Great for diapers for baby too. Tho the flannel ones would be a touch more gentle for baby's bottom. Again... no sewing, fold.
Soak as all the above and wash.
Remember, the sun has great bleaching powers, free for its use. 🙂

Save the TP if you have it for winter, when no wide leaves available for wipes. 😉


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