I am not looking to meet business partners here. I too am very serious about prepping. But looking at it as a marketing thing is just plain dumb. Some of us have KIDS and are looking for not business partners but FRIENDS they can bond with and TRUST. Ppl we can trust would continue to help our children should something happen to us and we would take care of theirs should something happen to them. Ya euthanizing Parents might be something that SHOULD be discussed with a group that you KNOW. Probably should be discussed with the parents first! But when someone openly talks about it with ppl theyve never met before, along with refering to children as "Eaters with no return", and openly talking and joking about canabalism, it kind of raises just a few flags ya know? Also people who in private messaging tell u "I *HOPE* I never betray your trust" but then go and tell your plans to people whom theyve been told arnt trusted, or openly talk about your plan in a negative light on an internet forum, even tho to your face say "its a good plan" seem to me to be the type of people who are Only with u until something they percieve as better comes along and these are the type of people who should be completely avoided as they are obviously in it only for themselves. Yea everyone has a different way of prepping. How did this topic turn into a pissing contest of who can prep more? Different circumstances mean different ways to prep! I personally dont care what courses have or have not been taken. Ive taken plenty if my own courses this year and have also spent thousands. It doesnt matter. I can trust some people who have spent $0 on their prepping and cant trust others that have spent thousands more then I can throw them. Which I think would be pretty hard.

Wow!! Thought I wrote that clear enough. What else is on your mind?

Its OK Prepersaurus I think you're trustworthy.

Its OK Prepersaurus I think you're trustworthy.

The why are you hiding that bag of cookies? 😆

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Hmmmmm . Boy is this getting old. AND off topic. When have I ever said 'children are nothing but mouths to feed? Don't lump my conversations with conversations you have had with others. For the record my daughter is invited into my prepping plans. Guess you forgot I had a daughter. Geee and we have known each other all this time.

Bachelors? We do have women in our group, one happens to be my wife. You have met her, you even managed to score some expensive equipment for a low price from her, so I am sure you have had a brain fart or something and just forgot.

As for my AMWAY comments. Read the post again, if you still don't see what I wrote, ask one of your kids to read it for you. The analogy I was trying to make (this is for those who have no clue) is that preppers try to get people to have a coffee, to chat about prepping, then throw a prepping sales pitch at them. Call it what you will, but anyone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong, that the subject at a prepper meet seems to always be why to join OUR group, or come out to our next meet, socialize, become friends. THAT is sales. Been there and done that. The discussion is to feel out where their prepping plan is, and to see if it is compatible with yours, and are they 'like-minded' in their plan, whether it be run for the hills, bug in, be self-sufficient, be off the grid, go to a BOL, or curl up and die, whatever. The meets always seem to be the same. To find someone you can trust, in a bug out situation.

As for "structure, diplomacy, and the like" as you put it. I sure don't want to have a group of people with no structure, no diplomacy and the like, in a group. I don't want people watching my back intoxicated etc.

I actually find it funny (yes FUNNY) that you are still bashing Namelus. You must really be smitten after all your emails to get involved in HIS plan, went unanswered. Obviously, a case of sour grapes on your part, since no one likes rejection. Now all these digs about cannibalism (where you played a part, if you don't remember). Namelus saw this all happening months ago, when you first met him. He saw it for what it was. Preppers are somewhat secretive and difficult to win over in any game of trust. (Oh please don't twist that into a board game comparison). I think that would explain his frustration on the forum.

I think this moaning of yours has gone on long enough. Grow up and move on, and I promise not to raid your debris hut for a can of spam? Come to think of it, I hate spam.

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Good Grief , this thread has turned into a nightmare.

I tend to lean towards Goldie's very first statement on this thread. Just to keep the thread alive.lol

Boooo deleted posts?

God dam this article is amazing! Thanks for the post mate

Well placed.

I have to say this is a very good article. One might say that you have been planning this for a long time, 😉
I have to agree with this article, most preppers would be F*&#ked in this scenario. Hence the need to group up with others who have military experience and not as flighty as most of the preppers I have met. Sorry I do not mean to offend but think about it a bit and you will see what I mean. No real job, no means of transportation, no true outdoor skills most haven't even scouted out their bug out sanctuary let alone set up stashes along the route and at the sanctuary.
I personally am looking for survival / outdoor trained and educated people with military training and discipline being a must. Remember if you want some one to cover yours and your families back they will need to be able to count on you to do the same in a jam. Every prepper should read this article again and again and again, it might save yours and your families lives.

So how do you go about deciding whom to trust with your loved ones? There are many who are smooth talkers and likable enough that will charm the family and lower your guard. You know the kind. But when push comes to shove, you might find that individual doesn't have your interests as heart and sells you out to spare his own a$$. This is always the area that will make or break a group.

I know that you might find numerous flaws even in your family tree as to how far you can trust them. At least you know their strengths and weaknesses. When it comes to that new face, you do not! So now you must be incredibly good at the measure of a man because your families life may depend on it. This is where groups like C5's can be far better prepared than others. If they commit to having get-togethers that allow them to test each others abilities, one could sleep better knowing those individuals have as much invested as you do and are therefore far more trustworthy.

I again see so many flaws with bugging out as you weaken your position drastically in doing so. It is far better to relocate before hand and build a decent defense somewhere safer. Then you could plan for a secondary fallback in case you lost your primary one.