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PrepHer
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I came across this incredible report on what happens when Trucks stop rolling with all the supplies for North American society.
http://www.trucking.org/Newsroom/Trucks%20Are/When%20Trucks%20Stop%20America%20Stops.pdf
The 'timeline' of shortages, near the end of the article, is frightening.....
This is why we all Prep!



   
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susannah755
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Very nice find PrepHer. This scenario is global - it will happen there. it will happen here. Trucks keep the country moving! (ex transport worker) I agree with you 100% - this is why we prep.


Russell Coight....outback legend


   
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(@the-phone-guy)
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I've seen this happen to Fort Mac a few years ago when a forest fire blocked the highway an hour south of town. Milk was gone in one day, fresh produce was gone in two days. I think the article is quite accurate.



   
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Within days the grocery stores will be empty. If they stay that way for long people will start going house to house. I will be gone long before it gets to that.


There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life - Frank Zappa


   
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PrepHer
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Interesting list of the 100 things that will disappear first in an Emergency:
http://readynutrition.com/resources/emergency-items-what-will-disappear-first_11112009/



   
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(@the-phone-guy)
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Interesting list of the 100 things that will disappear first in an Emergency:
http://readynutrition.com/resources/emergency-items-what-will-disappear-first_11112009/

Thanks for the link, that is a good little read. Lots of good points, especially liked the comment about gold and toilet paper. Although many things I never use or need on the list, but the best way to be certain is to live it. We spend six or eight weeks camping in the fall with no electricity or gas heat. Things that many people consider unimportant can become very valuable. Goods for trade can be priceless: booze, tobacco, Bic lighters, ammunition, and toilet paper is like air- only valuable when you run out.

Camping in the wilderness for more than 3 or 4 days in a row can give a slight insight to the world without dependencies. Experiences can be equal or more valuable than stockpiles and caches.



   
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PrepHer
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You're absolutely right 'The Phone Guy'. Important and valuable goods like toilet paper and lighters are worthwhile stockpiling for any emergency whether it's a SHTF scenerio or sudden unemployment or electricity grid breakdown....
And you are 'Oh So Right' in stating that experiences CAN be more valuable than stockpiles or caches.
I'm remembering the days of the 1998 Ice Storm here in Eastern Ontario when we were suddenly and unexpectedly without electricity for 2+ weeks: that meant no gas stations pumping gas, no grocery stores open, no ATMs or banks open, not to mention all the challenges in people's homes, like heat and running water. THAT experience was worth its weight in gold to me. It helped 'fortify' my preps, experience, and skills...



   
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I'm remembering the days of the 1998 Ice Storm here in Eastern Ontario when we were suddenly and unexpectedly without electricity for 2+ weeks: that meant no gas stations pumping gas, no grocery stores open, no ATMs or banks open, not to mention all the challenges in people's homes, like heat and running water. THAT experience was worth its weight in gold to me. It helped 'fortify' my preps, experience, and skills...

Some places were as much as 4 weeks with no power, but that was no longer good news stories for the media since they moved onto other stories. Many places in Canada use electricity for heat, so unless you had a wood fireplace and weeks worth of firewood, you would have to " bug-out" in all practical terms.



   
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The ice storm... wow, after that, I had 2 weeks of canned food in my house at all times! (ready to eat soups, canned fish, beans, veggies, whatever was in a can that we could eat) plus about 200 large candles. It was what I could afford at the time but, it was a real eye opener that is for sure!

Some really great links and ideas.



   
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wood gasification can run my truck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=0duRTRC3Sxc

YOU MISSED THE POINT OF THE THREAD



   
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That would have been a good and contributing message. Yes I read it, it was pretty good actually.



   
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Read "one second after" by William R. Forstchen and you'll get the point I'm trying to make, For what ever reason trucks stop running wood gasification means we avoid a dark age and can carry on with mechanized agriculture....

You're still missing the point of the thread. It isn't about what kind of alternative fuels we could convert engines to run on. The thread is about how fragile our "just on time" infrastructure has become. If the trucks were to stop for whatever reason, the store shelves would essentially be bare in about three days. Shortly thereafter, people would start to get desparate and finally panic. All the alternative fuels in the world won't stop that. Unless of course, you can somehow convert all those engines to said alternative fuels within a day or two and get the transport industry back up and running before the panic sets in.
The thread is not about alternative fuels. It's about the social and economic impact that would be caused by a significant interruption of any part of our infrastructure. Alternative fuels may be helpful in the aftermath but they won't make any difference during the initial event.


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Read "one second after" by William R. Forstchen and you'll get the point I'm trying to make, For what ever reason trucks stop running wood gasification means we avoid a dark age and can carry on with mechanized agriculture....

You're still missing the point of the thread.



   
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That was an awesome read! Thanks for posting. Interesting to see the facts, and the timeline towards the end is interesting as well. It really would happen fast!

Interesting list of the 100 things that will disappear first in an Emergency:
http://readynutrition.com/resources/emergency-items-what-will-disappear-first_11112009/

This is also a good one too!

Thanks for posting!



   
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(@prepnow)
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Great topic. Everyone in Canada needs to be aware of this reality and make preparations. I worked in a grocery store years ago and I can tell you that what you see on the shelf is pretty much what you get. There is no huge magical warehouse of extra stock in the back.

I have even read posts from people online that think that they will just be able to head to the store and buy what they need after a major disaster. Ask the people of the New Jersey coast right now how that is working out for them. If the trucks stop rolling people will get desperate quick and the stores will get looted. Even the extreme idiots online who think they will be able to loot or 'forage' at a store is in for a big surprise when they show up and find 1000 other people there doing the same thing.

Have nothing less than 30 days food, water and supplies for your entire family on hand at all times. It doesn't take up much room and it won't break the bank if you build it over time. Im my case it is a years worth. You never know.


There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life - Frank Zappa


   
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