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Moral Obligations To Non-Preppers What would you do?

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(@hopeimready)
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Personally, I am more inclined to help with knowledge/skills than with tangible items. Knowledge you can share with them about how to forage, where to obtain water, in their house/in nature/how to purify. Medical/first aid/repair skills. I have been trying to get this going in my little community, under "cover" of disaster-preparedness and general self-sufficiency. They cost only time, and helps others help themselves. Of course, in a long-term SHTF scenario, this only goes so far.


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(@syn)
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What are the moral obligations that nonpreppers aid in preparation for a confirmed prepper ? Pretty much zero obligation, so other than not giving false information, not stealing or hindering anyone else effort to do for themselves , I feel no obligation outside my own circle of responsibility .



   
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(@koddie)
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I think my response would depend largely on several factors: Where am I? What state am I in? Who are they?

Where am I? If I am bunkered down in my home and family came to the door I would likely be willing to share my resources and would invite them in. They would have to work to earn their keep but there would be some advantages to having a few extra bodies around. Providing they contribute to the effort they can learn as we go.

My neighbours would not get invited in and would not be permitted to see what I do or do not have. I would be willing to barter with them but they have no skills or materials that I am aware of that would be an asset to me. As soon as the drive throughs and convenience stores closed up they would be in trouble. I doubt they have more than 1 or 2 days of anything in their homes. Strangers would be asked to move along.

If the situation required me to bug out I would be much less inclined to offer any help to anyone including family as my supplies would be limited to my BOV or BOB. Avoidance would become more critical to ensure I did not lose my belongings by choice or force. There are a few individuals, friends and family I would be inclined to help but I know they have some skills that could be a benefit to me and they do not have issues that could prevent me from being mobile.

My state is key, initially I would be more willing to help others but as supplies become more difficult to replace I would become more reluctant. If hunger and fatigue start to become issues then I would become even more reluctant to aid others.

I would certainly like to get through any situation without any form of confrontation but ultimately what's mine is mine. My efforts are for me and my immediate family. If the situation dictates I have to protect myself, my family, or my possessions then that is what I'll will do regardless of whether they are extended family, friends, neighbours or strangers.



   
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(@haliboy)
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You have no moral obligations that you do not already have.

Do you work a job and spend/save every cent for your self? Nothing wrong with that and when the SHTF you just keep doing the same.

Do you work a job and help out family and friends when you can? Then keep doing that when the SHTF.

Do you have friends you stopped helping but still talk to because they just won't help themselves? The continue to only talk to them when the SHTF.

Whatever you are doing now is your ethics, you have no obligation to become the world's welfare when the SHTF. You preppered, they spent their money on non-preps. They made their own beds, you owe them nothing during SHTF that you didn't owe them pre-SHTF.


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Well I was going to join the UK Network but those bloody Brits don't know how to speak proper English! 😉


   
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Wayne
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I've thought quite a bit about this question. In the past, I've held several preconceived ideas on how I would act if I was faced with a "particular situation." I've attempted to think rationally and be realistic as to the actions I would take. In the past however, when I've actually been faced with the real life situation, I've been unable to follow my preconceived plan and have ended-up putting myself in harms way for the sake of others. I first rationalized this as duty (actions taken as a police officer), but when situations occurred off the job, I acted in the same manner. I've come to accept this as a personal strength/weakness that reflects the person who I am.

Perhaps if I was making the decision in-front of my family (risking their welfare), things might be different. I don't honestly know. As a Christian however, I don't believe that I could turn away others and would try to help them.

Of course in the case where I was presented with an assault, that would be different. I would protect my family and am amply prepared to do so. In the case where people needed help and were asking for it, that would be a different situation.

As I think about this, I have to ask myself: 'If you will share what you have with others, why bother prepping in the first place?' To this I suppose I'd answer: Any preparation I do, can only be defined as an attempt to improve the situation I find myself in. Despite my best efforts, circumstances may occur where I find myself and my family without and in need of the generosity of others. Whatever happens, if I survive I have to look at myself and be seen by my family members. All I can do is my best. If I die in the attempt, so be it.


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(@albertapatriot)
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Definitely a great question and one I'm sure we have all debated ourselves. Like you we have warned a few to the benefits of prepping and received the same "tin foil hat" reaction. It's easy to say well then they're on their own when shtf happens.... however reality is guess where they will show up when it does. So as I prep stock (food and water especially) I account for the extra mouths but it will be made clear when they arrive they will be expected to be productive member.



   
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(@masha31)
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The thing is, how many friends ya got that will come around and expect you to hand out to them? Best you warn them all now and let them know they better be prepared. Look at Noah, he warned the people, and they just laughed at them prepare for the flood. How many people ended up in the ark, 8? You can't help the world, because your friends now, will most likely come after you to get what you have prepared. You'll see just how friendly they will be to you when they need your help. Sure they think we've all got a loose bolt up stairs right now! Maybe family members you can prepare extra for. One day they will see you was right. It is called survival!



   
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The Island Retreat
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To the OP;

You have discussed it wit him. He even had a warning with the local quake.

If He has no children / large external expenses ..... He likely has more disposable income than you! If that is the case, he should consider himself duly warned. If he doesn't even buy a bag of rice, that's gross negligence on his part.

A strict "ant and grasshopper" policy on that dud. Anything major happens, warn him away with a show of force if need be. Anything minor, invite information discussion, maybe cover his a$$ very short term (e.g. House fire) and remind him he's on his own next time unless he contributes / caches ahead of time. It's not like he doesn't have a BOL/place to cache, thnaks to you, right?


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