Light pellets get higher fps, when you go there, but they typically lack "knock off the limb" "poof of feathers" impact and in the high-velocity guns, they actually tend to be limited in range than heavier pellets at 200-400 slower fps.
Dang, I like it when you talk dirty...(as in getting your hands dirty experience). It is far easier to take advice when I can tell that you been there, done that! I don't feel I have to fill folks heads with BS as I'm old enough to have enough knowledge to share without stepping over that line. It's easier to explain my background or present day circumstance then to remember some fib I made up on the fly. I state I haven't kept up with pellet guns for years as I haven't. I did all with a bow for 30 + years since leaving the army and would still do so if age wasn't messing with my abilities. I only had a scope on one rifle when young, but now but I can no longer see the detail either close or far....seems optics are really for old people and I should now qualify! 😆
And I guess that "pretty" tag is nice as long as it's still usefull 🙄
still own my old crossman pumpmaster 760 wich i modified the reservoir to have more power
i dont know about canada regulation of pellet gun, tell me if im wrong but over 1000 fps it restricted ?
still own my old crossman pumpmaster 760 wich i modified the reservoir to have more power
i dont know about canada regulation of pellet gun, tell me if im wrong but over 1000 fps it restricted ?
yes, they set the limit as 495 fps which won't kill anything. What is the difference? Is it the seal or is there a check valve somewhere?
Don't know if it's useful but I just ordered one 😆
Czech-made Alfa-Proj 9mm revolver. It's the other other white meat apparently; I just discovered the brand yesterday. Plenty of sites carrying them now it seems. 22lr to 357 models.
http://www.rustywood.ca/restricted-New.html
Over 495 fps requires Pal. Plenty of info on airgun sites on modding for more power.
Curiosity:
How do they manage the 495 fps?
What do they do about the ranges pellet guns usually have in velocity? Do they go with the manufacturers' high ends (that would really be unfortunate, given the perfect conditions and exact weights you regularly need to get those with a non-mod)?
Is there basically a list of allowed/restricted airguns? Do you bring it out and test it somewhere to prove it's under?
What do they do about the 200-600 fps increases you can get with an alloy/lead-free pellet over a lead pellet, or the smaller shifts you can get just using a different shape and slightly lighter lead pellet?
Does the 495 fps also count for black powder?
Hopefully this link answers a few of your questions. Also my answer of 495 fps is not correct. It is actually 500 fps. Most manufactures seem to hold the the line at 495 fps. Maybe to give a small cushion between pal or no pal.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm
Scrounger,
Thanks. RCMP discretion is how a lot of it reads to me, and if you buy it with manufacturer testing only done on lead pellets, lead-free alloys can likely get you up to pigeon level.
And then I had a holy wow:
"Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices."
Just ... wow. We whimper about 1994 and the attempts to reinstate its pains. 1998 seems to have been the bad, bad year for you guys.
Chiappa appears to be making a new M6, as well as a similar design called the X-Caliber. Basically a single-shot 12 gauge with a set of calibre adapters.
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2677
Should be hitting stores soon. I'm eyeing one of their "Little Badger" 22s as a lightweight, concealable hunting rifle.
I was checking out Captain's post above and figured it was ugly and extremely useful and aught to be here too. When reading up on all the adapters for calibers, I imagined walking done the road after Armageddon and finding a bullet...no worries...they all fit 😆 😆
(although all them adapters weigh a bit I'd bet....Are they rifled and how long are they?)
Any useful but not pretty gun list should include the Savage Model 42. It's a superposed, break-breech double-barrel rifle available in either .22LR over .410, or .22WMR over .410.
The .22LR is good for small game, while the .410 barrel gives you the option of firing slugs for larger game (essentially a .40 caliber bullet) or shot for birds. I have one in .22LR over .410. It's light but has a solid feel.
"The Best Bang for your Buck", the SKS
Figured it was time to cover the SKS properly. This has to be the best deal out there right now for a Battle rifle. The SKS in it's original form is "butt ugly" as all WWII style weapons were(yes, I know it came after). You can pick it up this way for $200-$250 Cdn or buy it at Marstar for $75 when you buy 1440 bullets. http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=74819 and don't say it's pretty 😆
But they also sell it modded out for $375(with no bullets). http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=81628 (now it is pretty!) 😆 😆 They make removable mags in 5 to 30 round(pinned)or even an adapter well to accept AK mags. This makes the rifle better than the AK47 (in my opinion) and it is still non-restricted so you could legally take it hunting. Being more a battle rifle is defined by it's limits of 4" groups @ 150 yards, especially after 10 shots as once the barrel warms, it tends to shoot less accurate much like the AK does. Some folks claim the scope moves a bit on it's mount due to the cover it's mounted on getting slammed by the breach within. Yet the cheap 7.62x 39 rounds mean you can stock up and practice for less than any other rifle I know of. With the ATI stock, it's overall length of 31" folded and instinctual on target aiming when you snap it to the shoulder. At 7 1/2 lbs, it's an easy rifle to shoulder all day if need be and a prepper could buy 2 of these for the price of 1 CZ-858.
I wouldn't put it above a decent moose rifle on my personal weapons list, but I would say it is likely "The Best Bang for your Buck" for a battle rifle. It is more likely to be lower on the ban list than many other rifles, yet versatile enough to play against many in it's weight class, should the need arise.
"The Best Bang for your Buck", the SKS
Figured it was time to cover the SKS properly. This has to be the best deal out there right now for a Battle rifle. The SKS in it's original form is "butt ugly" as all WWII style weapons were(yes, I know it came after). You can pick it up this way for $200-$250 Cdn or buy it at Marstar for $75 when you buy 1440 bullets. http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=74819 and don't say it's pretty 😆
But they also sell it modded out for $375(with no bullets). http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=81628 (now it is pretty!) 😆 😆 They make removable mags in 5 to 30 round(pinned)or even an adapter well to accept AK mags. This makes the rifle better than the AK47 (in my opinion) and it is still non-restricted so you could legally take it hunting. Being more a battle rifle is defined by it's limits of 4" groups @ 150 yards, especially after 10 shots as once the barrel warms, it tends to shoot less accurate much like the AK does. Some folks claim the scope moves a bit on it's mount due to the cover it's mounted on getting slammed by the breach within. Yet the cheap 7.62x 39 rounds mean you can stock up and practice for less than any other rifle I know of. With the ATI stock, it's overall length of 31" folded and instinctual on target aiming when you snap it to the shoulder. At 7 1/2 lbs, it's an easy rifle to shoulder all day if need be and a prepper could buy 2 of these for the price of 1 CZ-858.
I wouldn't put it above a decent moose rifle on my personal weapons list, but I would say it is likely "The Best Bang for your Buck" for a battle rifle. It is more likely to be lower on the ban list than many other rifles, yet versatile enough to play against many in it's weight class, should the need arise.
I think function is beautiful so I like the SKS just the way it is 😉 I don't know any other rifle that has an onboard cleaning rod and brush. Seems built to just pick up and run with.
And I know the bayonet was designed for an obsolete style of warfare, but in civilian hands I think it's got potential. Even if you run out of ammo, guys won't be lining up to come through your window if you're jabbing something pointy at them.
There's also something to be said for a wooden stock rifle for gray man purposes. This is Canada, everybody's father has a wooden hunting rifle. Doesn't get their attention like an AR-15 will.
I think function is beautiful so I like the SKS just the way it is 😉 I don't know any other rifle that has an onboard cleaning rod and brush. Seems built to just pick up and run with.
And I know the bayonet was designed for an obsolete style of warfare, but in civilian hands I think it's got potential. Even if you run out of ammo, guys won't be lining up to come through your window if you're jabbing something pointy at them.
There's also something to be said for a wooden stock rifle for gray man purposes. This is Canada, everybody's father has a wooden hunting rifle. Doesn't get their attention like an AR-15 will.
I understand where your coming from. The bayonet could have advantage in some scenarios. But this version isn't readily removable. To be able to install it at a given time would be a plus, but this bayonet is fixed and adds extra weight to carry while also unbalancing it further in a carry/walk. The SKS already has enough barrel flex and this bayonet only adds to that issue too. You can rig the cleaning rod to still mount without the bayonet if so desired.
There is another big flaw that I find with most battle type rifles compared to hunting rifles. The COG(center of gravity) is wrong! When we carry a weapon by the stock, we tend to find that point of COG where the barrel is pointed slightly downward as we walk.(it's safer, less threatening and more controllable) The mag location is always placed near the COG to least effect the weight change between full and empty...this makes carrying most battle rifles more awkward, especially with 20-30 round mags. A way around this is to change stocks to a folding stock such as this ATI. When folded, the butt is less heavy so to carry in front of the mag well now makes carrying the SKS pleasant as it is now shorter and easier to control too.
Be able to sling a weapon is a must too as it frees the hands to do other things and gives your arm a break also. Therefore you must consider setting up all your weapons in this fashion too to be totally versatile.