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(@anonymous)
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Curious if anyone has tried the Remingtom copper sabot rounds. They are supposed to be very good.



   
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(@matt8)
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I will be taking my firearms test this weekend. What would be a good rifle to start out with? I plan on doing hunting this year if I can, if not hopefully next year, and I'd like an effective rifle for that.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Where will you be hunting and for what? The choice of firearm will be dependant on the game you are hunting as well as any restrictions in the area you plan to hunt.



   
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(@matt8)
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Oh sorry my bad.

Well Prince Edward Island. I will be hunting for geese, Id like to go to NB, NS for deer / moose.

Thank you for the fast reply I appreciate it 😀



   
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(@taz-weiss-jr)
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What about situations where you need to walk for like a week to get to your bug out place? would the 5.56 be a good choice seen as how it could be lighter or could carry more or would that kinda weight be negligable?


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(@mooswa)
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Curious if anyone has tried the Remingtom copper sabot rounds. They are supposed to be very good.

I've seen the ads for them but have yet to meet anyone that has actually used them on game.


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(@anonymous)
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What about situations where you need to walk for like a week to get to your bug out place? would the 5.56 be a good choice seen as how it could be lighter or could carry more or would that kinda weight be negligable?

I'll answer your question with a question. What kind of environment are you going through? What kind of targets are you looking to engage? At what range? If I shoot something with a .308 once and have to shoot the same thing 3x with a .223... is there any real saving in ammo weight? If you are going to have a dirty weapon... will it function? .223 is sexy... it is military... the rifles are generally "black" and fit an image. Personally I'd want a weapon that has the most versatility... both on the road and once I get where I am going. There seems to be more and more preoccupation with guns as weapons instead of tools. The image on the cover of "Patriots" is not who you want to be.



   
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(@mooswa)
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I will be taking my firearms test this weekend. What would be a good rifle to start out with? I plan on doing hunting this year if I can, if not hopefully next year, and I'd like an effective rifle for that.

Well since you mention an effective rifle and in another post say you want to hunt geese on PEI, I am guessing you have not taken a hunter training course. I would recommend you do so if you have not as it would answer some of the things you have mentioned and I would imagine it is mandatory in PEI as it is in every other province and territory that I am aware of. Most of these courses give you some basic instruction on what to use for the various game animals and game birds.

As for geese, you are probably best served with a 12 gauge shotgun that is chambered to take 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells. Some are now offered that take the 3 1/2 inch shells. Shotguns can of course be used for deer and you can in fact get rifled barrels with iron sights for them now and you can mount scopes on most of them as well. If you buy a pump or auto shotgun there are a number of companies that offer interchangeable barrels so you can switch back and forth between a smooth bore with interchangeable chokes and a rifled barrel with sights for shooting slugs for deer. Lots of options.

I have no idea what the regulations are for moose in NB or NS, but a shotgun would not be my pick. Here I would suggest a rifle chambered in .30-06 or .308 as a good place to start........... but here again lots of options out there with bolt-actions, lever actions, pumps, semi-autos and single shots......and dozens of suitable cartridges. Bullet selection is probably more important than which cartridge you select. I would suggest you do some reading as there is lots too learn and many ways to go when selecting what is right for you.


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(@mooswa)
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What about situations where you need to walk for like a week to get to your bug out place? would the 5.56 be a good choice seen as how it could be lighter or could carry more or would that kinda weight be negligable?

I'll answer your question with a question. What kind of environment are you going through? What kind of targets are you looking to engage? At what range? If I shoot something with a .308 once and have to shoot the same thing 3x with a .223... is there any real saving in ammo weight? If you are going to have a dirty weapon... will it function? .223 is sexy... it is military... the rifles are generally "black" and fit an image. Personally I'd want a weapon that has the most versatility... both on the road and once I get where I am going. There seems to be more and more preoccupation with guns as weapons instead of tools. The image on the cover of "Patriots" is not who you want to be.

Sound advice I think.


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(@taz-weiss-jr)
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Ive actually been re-reading "patriots" and I think im sold on the higher caliber thanks for the advice, now to choose which one!


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(@tazweiss)
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Ive actually been re-reading "patriots" and I think im sold on the higher caliber thanks for the advice, now to choose which one!

Take a look at the M14 clone from Norinco. Nice gun, good for both, hunting and combat.


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(@anonymous)
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M14 clone... well made, accurate, easy to get accessories for. If you want to put a scope in them there is a great mount from a Canadian manufacturer...
http://www.m14.ca/M14_M1A_CASM_Scope_Mount.html
I have one on mine and it does NOT shoot loose.



   
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(@offgridhippie)
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Hey guys how does this sound for a setup. I have some of these and or looking to buy some these.

pistol: ruger p95 9mm
shotgun: remington 870 tactical 12 ga
midrange: Armalite M15 5.56mm - I'm still undecided on this category I want reliability and portability
Rifle: tikka tac .308 Mk 4 ER/T 4.5-14x50mm (30mm tube)


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(@perfesser)
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M14 clone... well made, accurate, easy to get accessories for. If you want to put a scope in them there is a great mount from a Canadian manufacturer...
http://www.m14.ca/M14_M1A_CASM_Scope_Mount.html
I have one on mine and it does NOT shoot loose.

I have 2 of these M14's - great rifles. I used a Promag steel scope mount on one- it's solid and at just over $100 it's quite cheap. I don't much like how high the CASM mount puts the scope.

Offgridhippie- I wouldn't bother with the 5.56. If you want an intermediate round I would go with an SKS in 7.62x39 ... and you still need a .22 rimfire first.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Tried the promag... had all manner of issues with it. Apparently the machining on the reciever was way off so there was too much side cant on the scope. Couldn't bring it to centerline. Finally had to shim it and it kept coming loose. I think it is a factor of individual items... a little off here .. a little off there.. and if you get a bunch of "little offs" you have a problem. Promag has good reviews just didn't work for me. I put a cheek rest on mine and it works for me. In the end that is what it's about. Finding a system that works for you. Everyone is different. Completely agree about the 5.56 / .223. The sks in 7.62 x 39 is simple and dependable, ammunition is cheap and plentiful and there are good hunting rounds available. Easily cleaned and maintained. Plus you have the added advantage of being able to use the same cleaning brushes and jags in both rifles. Ditto on the .22 as a priority.



   
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