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(@perfesser)
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Heh, I wonder if that wasn't your post I saw on CGN on the canted Promag. I guess you had what I call "an accumulation of tolerances". All those guns are a bit of a crap shoot anyway. You can work around most problems but you usually do a bit of head scratching.
Any scope will need a cheek riser. My scope sits so low I had to file a little half moon relief in the top of the rear sight aperture (@100 yd zero) for clearance but I still need a riser.
My other one has a UTG rail and 2-7 power scout scope setup. I had a hell of a time shimming that enough to get the scope on paper, an odd barrel profile. And I still needed the Burris rings with the shim inserts. I didn't use it this year but I'm thinking it would work better in low light than the other (4-12 Leupold VXIII), scope on lowest and both eyes open.



   
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(@offgridhippie)
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Offgridhippie- I wouldn't bother with the 5.56. If you want an intermediate round I would go with an SKS in 7.62x39 ... and you still need a .22 rimfire first.

Thanks guys, do you suggest bolt action or semi auto like ruger 10/22?


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(@anonymous)
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For my use and experience the 10-22 can't be beat. I am sure there are many other semi's out there but this is what I have and have never had an issue with it. Reasons I like it.
1: Easy to maintain
2: Easy to get parts and accessories for
3: Magazine fed.. 10 rds...easy to carry a few mags in your pocket and change out if you need to
4: Semi auto gives you rapid followup shots if you need them
5: Accurate
6: Dependable

JAB



   
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(@perfesser)
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A semi won't be as accurate as a bolt action but if you only have one I would say 10/22 is the way to go. Savage in general has good triggers and that makes a great rifle more than anything else. You can buy a few parts for under $100 that give a 10/22 a good trigger too.
Accuracy in a .22 is mostly about finding the brand of ammo that yours prefers.



   
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(@the7gs)
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With the 10/22 it's not just about ammo, it's about magazines also. There are many 25, 32 and 50 round aftermarket magazines available for the Ruger 10/22 platforms. Some feed well with most ammunition, many are poor quality, poor fit and function. The plastic lips ones are to be avoided!!! A real pity that Ruger advertised their BX-25 magazine as "fitting their pistol"... not available in Canada because of the advertisement!!! Even though you can get 50 round drum magazines for the same platform. Oh my! Their BX-1 10 round snail-magazine work perfectly well with almost all ammo.

I did some testing with a whole bunch of products and ammo. I found that the Pro-Mag 25's fed almost all types of ammo. I also found that Remington 22LR Golden Bullets cycled easily through most magazines (even the plastic lips ones). There are some "new" TI25 magazines available that I have yet to test (on order from http://www.wanstallsonline.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1 )

My Ruger 10/22 platform is actually the SR22... http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Rifle/specSheets/1236.html

She's real perty!


the7gs
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(@anonymous)
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I guess it would depend on what you want your 10-22 to do. The SR22 looks nice...but for that price it should. LOL... Functionally it is the same 10-22 platform. As for large capacity magazines regardless of source you increase the risk of jams, increase the risk of catching on things in your environment, reduce your ability to assume a prone firing position and make a sling shoulder carry more difficult. If I even think I'll need that much firepower I'll have my SKS or M14. Personally I prefer the rifle as it was originally made with the 10 round magazines. Original mags are easy to carry in a pocket, easy to change, keeps the smooth lines of the rifle and no malfunction issues. Just my 2 cents

JAB



   
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(@perfesser)
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I do have some high cap mags for mine but they're just a PITA. They get in the way when you shoot but I haven't had any feed problems with any of them. I usually don't use the cheapest ammo either though. Most stuff I buy is about $50 a brick, Lapua or RWS.
I like the clear 10 round mags and I glue a 1" dia plastic ring on the bottom so they're easy to handle. Same for my 5 round M14 mags(these are riveted).
These are early versions (one is a bit to small, the other a bit too big) but you get the idea. 1" is perfect for me.



   
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(@colonelalvin)
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Those who have already mentioned 5.56 and 7.62 NATO are on the right track. Think long term and wider availability. Prep considering not only what ammo is available now, but what is more likely to be available in the future, post SHTF! Common NATO and Law Enforcement rounds like 5.56 (.223 Rem), 7.62 (.308 Win), .40 S&W and to a lesser extent, 9mm. Most Law Enforcement in Canada use .40 S&W. Additionally, .22LR is well recommended and I believe, already a very popular prepper calibre due to being light weight, cheap, easy to shoot with minimal recoil and wide availability. As for the other rounds mentioned, not only are they available to the public, but once SHTF, potentially, there is the potential for restocking from abandoned military or police stocks. OK, I'm going to give a wild and wacky example here.....the world gets over run by zombies! So, like in "The Walking Dead" show, there is the potential for happy shopping from military supplies and police stations! Yes I know, some of you shall laugh, some will agree and perhaps some say I'm crazy. Well, post SHTF, regardless of what caused it, and society has gone down the drain, the stores are going to be empty of your favourite hunting rounds like 30-06, 7mm, .270 Win, etc! So joking aside, once your own ammo supplies are depleted (if you have much and can afford it in the first place), then consider where you may be able to resupply, when the stores are all out!


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(@colonelalvin)
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On the subject of .22LR, I recommend either the Remington 597 or Ruger 10-22. Both are available semi-automatic and have high capacity magazines, legal in Canada. The 597 (which I own) has magazines up to 30rnds and the 10-22 has available 50rnd drum magazines available! Both makes are between $200-300 and after market stocks and upgrades are available, though I believe the 10-22 has a better selection of stocks, parts and upgrades. Some have mentioned the Ruger SR22, which is a more expensive, flasier model and I believe Remington does one similar for it's own 597. However, save some bucks, get the cheaper standard model of your desired make, then check out other options such as Mystic Precision. I can not testify myself to having any of those products, due to a lack of money...but they do have good reviews, much cheaper and look very good too. http://www.mysticprecision.com/wp/
Bonus...they also do stocks for other firearms, such as the Norinco M14!


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Buggie
(@buggie)
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pick a round... stick to that round... buy exessive ammounts of that ammo type. then buy more of that ammo type. then buy more of that ammo type.

If you run our of ammo, you didnt prep enough 😀

for a .22, I reccomend the ruger 10/22 takedown.


See you all after.


   
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(@colonelalvin)
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Ammo for thought lol. However, let's suppose you prep with 10,000 rnds in your inventory...how are you going to carry it all when you have to bug out? Great if you have a solar powered tank from the future...but there may be no gas for your vehicle and you have to proceed on foot!


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Buggie
(@buggie)
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- burry it in caches along your bugout route
- have it waiting at your bugout location
- have multiple people in your party that can carry the load
- have a couple people each with a pull along or push along cart

I personally wouldnt try bugging out with 10,000 rounds. Maybe just a practical carry amount, then come back later and "deal" with the problem. or just give up the ghost and be thankful you have caches burried along the way!


See you all after.


   
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(@colonelalvin)
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Everything you said, Buggie, makes sense! Echoes my philosophy entirely!


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(@offthepath)
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- burry it in caches along your bugout route
- have it waiting at your bugout location
- have multiple people in your party that can carry the load
- have a couple people each with a pull along or push along cart

I personally wouldnt try bugging out with 10,000 rounds. Maybe just a practical carry amount, then come back later and "deal" with the problem. or just give up the ghost and be thankful you have caches burried along the way!

Excuse my ignorance, but who is actually burying caches of ammo along the way? Ammo is expensive, and I cannot imagine me burying my ammo in out of area safe points.

The food caches are enough to break a regular prepper, so how is a Canadian prepper supposed to hide caches of ammo here and there, without it being found? Just a question folks, as most folks I know can't stash $100's here and there.

Maybe I am missing out on the cheap ammo train.

Cheers
Chevy55



   
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(@hashhockey69)
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Excuse my ignorance, but who is actually burying caches of ammo along the way? Ammo is expensive, and I cannot imagine me burying my ammo in out of area safe points.

The food caches are enough to break a regular prepper, so how is a Canadian prepper supposed to hide caches of ammo here and there, without it being found? Just a question folks, as most folks I know can't stash $100's here and there.

Maybe I am missing out on the cheap ammo train.

Cheers
Chevy55

I was kind of thinking the same thing here, I mean I dont have enough money to start buying ammo and taking a chance and burry it somewhere that it may be found. Id be interested in knowing if anyone accutally does that?

With the 10/22 it's not just about ammo, it's about magazines also. There are many 25, 32 and 50 round aftermarket magazines available for the Ruger 10/22 platforms. Some feed well with most ammunition, many are poor quality, poor fit and function. The plastic lips ones are to be avoided!!! A real pity that Ruger advertised their BX-25 magazine as "fitting their pistol"... not available in Canada because of the advertisement!!! Even though you can get 50 round drum magazines for the same platform. Oh my! Their BX-1 10 round snail-magazine work perfectly well with almost all ammo.

X2 on the Ruger 10/22, just a great gun and high capacity mags are cheap and very easy to obtain.



   
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