Prepping is costly and like many, I am not wealthy - in fact, quite the opposite! Most of my survival kit I have had for years...long before the recent "explosion" of SHTF and doomsday theories and consequential prepping. There are many survival kit items that can either be made cheaply or bought cheaply at places such as online, Dollar stores and Liquidation stores. As for ammo, well that is where the .22LR round comes in!You can by hundreds or even thousands of rounds of .22 at silly prices! I personally do not have any caches as yet - it is a good idea in theory, but will not suit everyone's circumstances. There are so many variables that need to be accounted for, such as location, job, family, survival/prepper group if applicable, immediate surroundings, potential threats (including type/s, location/s, direction/s, size, severity), bug out location (if one available), escape and evasion routes.....I could go on all day!

Thanks Colonelalvin;
My point exactly has not been addressed. whom is burying caches of ammo, and how do they afford such things?

We all need to store and pile food, and keep appropriate amounts of ammo for chosen weapons..so where and when are people off site storing ammo, and when they do so, how do they afford. It is one thing to talk about a perfect world of preperation, but how and who is actually doing these things, and where does there money come from?
I do not ask this lightly, but realistically. Whom has the resources and how do they have them to store off site ammo in Canada, or are most of you full of sh*t when you speak of preperations. Cause BS in this world is freakin worthless...just wana know the truth.

One thing to keep in mind with ideas such as caching ammunition. If your cache is discovered and somehow tracable, you may be leaving yourself open for criminal charges IE unsafe ammunition storage. If someone finds it and is injured you may be open to worse.
I agree with you chevy55 in that there is "ideal" and then there is reality. I believe many talk theory and others regurgitate what they read and hear. Rawles aside.. and I DO believe his ideas do have a place.... other than in fiction and civil war I have never seen or heard of a real "guns in the streets" situation for the average citizen. To have a number of firearms to hunt, control vermin and to perhaps provide protection in an EXTREME circumstance is reasonable. To believe you will be bugging out with army surplus camo BDU's, your body armour, assault vest and M something clone skulking through the shadows is too far over the edge to realistically consider. It MAY come to that...but by that time the S will really have hit the fan, landed, dried and begun is journey to compost. Just my 2 cents.

JAB

Well Chevy55 the best answer I can give you is Rome was not built in a day. 😉

Chevy, I think you need to have a more open mind? I know exactly where you are coming from, with not having the money to prep! I am at the bottom of the pit, so to speak financially! However, there are many, such as those whom work in the oil and gas industry, that earn crazy money and most likely can afford to prep and have ammo caches. Good grief, I know some in the oil, gas, construction and welders that earn money, so much they have pouring out of their ears lol! Flash trucks, homes, boats RVs, etc, etc. So it is not beyond realms of possibility!

I earn good money, but life is pricey, let alone the stockpiling of items. I just purchased two boxes (100 rounds) of 44 Rem mag, for one of my rifles...now in varying degrees I have minimum 250 rds for some guns, up to 2000 rds of 9mm...but I just cannot see myself or many for that matter, taking that $100 bill (which is what I paid for today's purchase)...and just burying it in the woods somewhere.

Maybe it's just me, but I have a difficult time believing many, if any, are doing such a thing. Perhaps I an see stockpiling a bunch at the cabin, as it is my BOL, but have a hard time burying some along the route to get there, especially considering I could get thrown off one route and forced to another, then I kiss them goodbye.

Anyway, just discussing, as it is one thing I struggle with, as burying anything, in random locations seems kinda farfetched to me...

Thanks for thoughts though folks,
Chevy55

I can see one darn good reason to hide some.
All it will take is one more nutcase "survivalist" to do something stupid and have a "cache" of guns and ammo in his bunker for them to jump at the chance to regulate us.
Just recently they amended the amount of reloading powder and primers you can store at home way down. I can easily see them saying you're only allowed to have a certain number of rounds of a certain caliber or maybe a cap on the total number you're allowed to have.
Not a priority yet but it might be good to go through the mental exercise of how and where ahead of time.

I can understand having food and a few other essentials cached at various points along your bug-out route. However, as far as ammo caches go, I'm really hoping that I won't be in a constant running gun battle all along the route to my BOL. I'm kinda hoping that the ammo I will carry with me will be sufficient. If it isn't, chances are, I'll be SOL, 'cause no one can expect to fight their way through dozens of miles and days of constant battle without enormous logistical support. Much more than a few ammo caches will provide. But hey, that's just me and my name ain't Rambo.

Think about how powerful and all-seeing the government has become. There just will not be a time where the government "goes away" anytime soon and will tolerate any running battles on the street. Far more likely is a checkpoint every few blocks where they confiscate every potential weapon from you.
Cache your stuff at or near your BOL if you expect to have it there.

l to like others have mentioned am a fan of 7.62 FN or to me the beloved L1A1, however my 12 gauge is probably what would never be further than arms lenght for me, and a 1911 under my arm. l dont think i would be picking of intruders at 200m more like oh $hitt at 20'

The most important thing of all is how familiar you are with your weapon of choice, if your a lifetime hunter, get a hunting rifle, no good having a cool looking black rifle with all the disco gear that your going to fumble on the day. lt takes years of practice to be really at home with a system, when it all goes wrong you are only as good as your worst days training.

Mac

l to like others have mentioned am a fan of 7.62 FN or to me the beloved L1A1, however my 12 gauge is probably what would never be further than arms lenght for me, and a 1911 under my arm. l dont think i would be picking of intruders at 200m more like oh $hitt at 20'

The most important thing of all is how familiar you are with your weapon of choice, if your a lifetime hunter, get a hunting rifle, no good having a cool looking black rifle with all the disco gear that your going to fumble on the day. lt takes years of practice to be really at home with a system, when it all goes wrong you are only as good as your worst days training.

Mac

Couldn't have said it better myself. In cases where you are in an urban or suburban environment ...IF it ever got to this point...your engagement distance would usually be UNDER 200 feet. If you live in a house..go to each window and gauge your field of fire. Determine distances to areas of cover and also dead ground. NOT all that far and clear is it. THAT is the distance you will be protecting. Develop your plan now...not later.

JAB

JaB

Simples, arc of fire 360 degrees 😉

Mac

I love to play with my SKS and the ammo is dirt cheap, easy to stalk up on. Just need to remember to clean the weapon after every use because of the corrosive ammo. My fav is the 300 win mag that will stop anything trying to sneak up on me. Close quarters is my winchester defender or either my Smith & Wesson 9mm or Norinco 9mm. I thought alot about the rifle I shoot but having a restricted weapons gives those in power my address. Bad enough with the handguns. SKS or the 858 will stop anything just as well as any other and the ammo is cheaper and easier to come by. If SHTF it will be hard to come by military rounds.

I'm hoping to pick up a SKS tomorrow and then let the transformation begin! -No luck though

So I recognize I am the new guy here, yet some of you know me from CGN, I'm sure.

The concept of which is better, the 7.62x51N or 5.56x45N is a moot one at best. I have never had a problem with either (and a few other calibers to boot) when the chips are down. When I had to use a rifle the size of the round never factored into the fact that even though you only need one round to put down an X-ray, you'll often fire three anyway (and then there's the fact that shot placement is king). To overcome that urge requires a serious amount of training. Also, just because you got the big guns won't mean you'll live long enough to fight, get trained on how to use it, even if it is just to reload under serious pressure, but I'd recommend (a lot) more education than that.

The biggest consideration, as mentioned previously, is the sustainability of your firearms. If you run an L1A1/C1 v. L119/C8/AR v. CZ/VZ platform you have to consider further support beyond just ammunition, you have to think about spare mags and parts as well as commonality with respect to manual at arms for you and the rest of your group. You want to be able to immediately share ammo as well as being able to pass the firearm to others in your group with no worries about who knows how to use it.

In a serious SHTF situation where the Military/Police are called in, the most common rounds will be 9x19mmN and 5.56x45mmN with some 7.62x51mmN. Most .40S&W is in the hands of local law enforcement agencies and they only buy enough to run the department's training and logistics, it'll still be a lot, but not the literal mountains of ammo the military can bring in within mere days (hours at some sites) of something going haywire.

I currently run a PWS Mk112 and a Sig P220SAO (I know, I know... I'm picking up a Glock 23 and a P226 ASAP as well as a CAS 11.5"bbl in 7.62x39mmB when able to help with manual at arms/instruction during courses).

-S.