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(@kidprepper)
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Who here EDC's a knife? Which knife do you carry?

and who knows the laws for Ontario or Toronto on Carrying knives?

I carry the leatherman Squirt but Im thinking of carrying the Spyderco Tenacious.


14, starting to prep, love the outdoors, and i love knives and guns.
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(@anonymous)
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KiddPrepper You seem to know how to navigate the Internet. So why ask that question? One quick Google search and you would know that weapons jurisdiction and related legislation is in the domain of the Federal Government. Check out the Criminal Code of Canada at the link:
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/
Some knives are prohibited you certainly do not want to have one of those. These criminal offences are taken very seriously. Even if the knife is not a prohibited weapon you cannot carry it concealed. here is another link you might find helpful: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090728144025AAvKGg7

If you were carrying a legal knife openly and you used it even in self defense you could be charged with weapons dangerous and much more. It is generally illegal to carry a weapon in a concealed fashion in a public place. A knife is considered a weapon. It is also illegal to carry a weapon for a dangerous purpose.
So that being said why on earth would you want to carry a knife? For heaven's sake you are 14 years old! Leave your knife at home and put it in your BOB. Hopefully you will live a full and happy life and never need your BOB.
If you even considered doing something as exceptionally stupid as taking it to school I would turn you in myself. If you feel threatened talk to your parents and call the police. That is what they are for. Do your parents know that you have a knife and carry it around? If they don't tell them. Carrying a knife around is going to bring you into a world of hurt.

You asked the question and you have my response.



   
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(@kidprepper)
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lol, i would never take a knife to school. i carry because knives are useful tools.
I have googled it, but there are alot of things, and i dont know which parts to read. but thanks for the response.


14, starting to prep, love the outdoors, and i love knives and guns.
~The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday~

~Whoever Dares Wins~


   
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(@sbasacco)
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Here is your answer...although I do agree with ICRCC completely.

“prohibited weapon” means

(a) a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, or

(b) any weapon, other than a firearm, that is prescribed to be a prohibited weapon;



   
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ranger2012
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As my Dear departed father told me when I was young, "A knife is only as good as the person wielding it, and there will always be someone better who will take it and use it on YOU." 😐


"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."


   
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(@kidprepper)
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^
I dont carry a knife for self defence purposes. i carry a knife because it is a useful tool. i usually need a knfie to open packaging, cut rope, etc...
i would never use a knife for self defence, unless i actually have to. if someone mugs me, i would just give them my money. but if a terrorist starts shooting, i may have to use my knife.
but what im trying to say is, i carry a knife because of how useful it it.


14, starting to prep, love the outdoors, and i love knives and guns.
~The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday~

~Whoever Dares Wins~


   
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(@anonymous)
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I dont see a problem carrying a leatherman at 14. We carried swiss army knives at 9 after dad showed us how to handle it properly. If you have a leatherman I however fail to see why you need the ST?



   
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(@anonymous)
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Hey Kidprepper
I am a product of the streets of Toronto, did my highschool there and lived on the street for a couple years.
One thing I can tell you about carrying any weapon ( lets not bullshit a Knife with any type of blade is basically a weapon ) be it a club, knife or a gun is if you take it out you better be ready to use it. In my day street fighting was with fists and might escalate to knifes, today you do not know who at any age could be carrying a gun so be verry carefull. There really is not a reason at your age to be carrying an EDC ,like others say keep it in your BOB and use it when you are camping or practiceing your BOP
Lets be truefull I have a EDC but I am fifty years old and a retired soldier, my hobbies include cutting string thread and buckskin all the time( I also use it to peal my apples my favorite treat) but even then all I carry is a smalllll two bladed pocket knife. So my advice to you is if ya don't need it don't carry especially at school
All the best and happy to see such a young prepper
Hobo



   
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(@gerardo)
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I carry a Leatherman Sidekick daily and even for daily border crossing (ground). Not for self defense (although in a self defense scenario I would use it and anything else on hand), but for general use.



   
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(@rogue)
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Boys and there toys kidprepper. I think that love of knives is just a guy thing. I don't really know if most guys ever grow out of it. I like knives and also collect some if they're exceptional.

I've always carried a pocket knife – still do today and I agree they are a useful tool, but that is all they are.

Like hobo, I grew up in a bit of a challenged area where fighting was a norm on the streets particularly with the group I hung with. I was a boxer and somehow it came hand in hand that the on the street there was always someone that wanted to challenge that. Knives were really never an issue, it just wasn't acceptable. However I did run into trouble with someone else that didn't agree with that and although I was able to get through it I still have the scars to show that. Knives when used confrontationally or even produced as a defensive measure to try and scare someone off are a really dangerous stupidity.

But I’m actually not assuming that you would even consider being so foolish.

Hobo and I (only because of our experiences) have very good advice on that subject, never materialise a knife in a confrontation. It's the worse thing you can do. It's right up there with pulling a fake gun. It brings a conflict to a whole new level of 'need to defend.'

It certainly isn't my place to lecture you on this stuff kidprepper just because you're young. I really honestly don't think that the purpose of your post was to speak about using a knife in a conflict but I consider you just wondered what all the "mambo jumbo" legalities were about actually possessing one on your person. At your age I’m sure I bored quickly at trying to plow my way through interpreting law as well. ICRCC did a great job of leading you in right direction.

Having said that; here is quick synopsis about carrying knives in public.

In your pocket is illegal, clipped to the pocket or in a belt sheath is legal.

There are four absolute no-no's:

 a push-knife is considered to be a form of brass knuckle which are illegal to carry
 knives that can be opened with one hand are illegal (flick knife styles, excluding thumbposts with locking systems)
 butterfly-style knives (the martial arts types, but these aren’t good tools - they’re dangerous to use and in the minds of people are not a tool – they are an eccentric weapon)
 automatic opening mechanisms are illegal (switch blade type styles that are spring activated)

As long as you're not brandishing it, but also not concealing it, you really shouldn't have any problems. However a sheathed knife (solid blade hunting type knife) on a belt makes people nervous and they question both your need and subsequently your stability. Surprisingly enough they're legal.

I carry a four-inch folding lock knife in my pocket, actually it’s illegal. I should have it in a clipped enclosed case on my belt. I don’t because again people question what the purpose would be to have it on your belt. At my age and social situation I can’t imagine ever running into a problem carrying a pocket knife. At your age and whatever your situation, you really need to consider if it’s necessary, even if it is a useful tool.

A two-inch light-weight folding lock knife on a key chain or attached to the zipper of your backpack would serve as a useful tool if that is your intent kidprepper. A small 'swiss style' type utility tool used in the same manner is also acceptable and not meancing, it's not concealed. A multi-tool like a pair of pliers with knife attachments on a clipped belt sheath is acceptable.

Not overly cool, but a useful tool that is not concealed and doesn't bring a lot of unwanted attention to yourself for carrying it.

Hope this helps kidprepper 😉



   
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(@kidprepper)
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Thanks Rogue!
and i agree that taking out a knife or fake gun in a confrontation is just stupid. But my friends are dumb, and one wants to carry around a metal bb gun, i keep telling him its agaisnt the law. but he hasnt bought it yet, so thats good!

Thanks everyone else
I think im just going to just carry my little multi tool on my keys from now 😛 until im a bit older, then i will carry my folders.


14, starting to prep, love the outdoors, and i love knives and guns.
~The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday~

~Whoever Dares Wins~


   
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(@anonymous)
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A wise choice KiddPrepper. Let's face it, if it's not a tool that you can use everyday there is little use in carrying it every day.



   
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(@redneck-survivalist)
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I EDC a leatherman wave. I don't know why anyone would be without such a useful tool like that or something similar.


It's better to prep for something that may never happen than not prep for something that does.
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(@denob)
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I also EDC a multitool...not a leatherman, but is has served me well over the last few years. I am an advocate to EDC something similar, or at least a pocket knife. As Kidprepper mentioned, as a tool, not a weapon. However, in this case, being 14 years old, I believe that you should be old enough to do so, but NEVER carry it to school. Society has, and with reason, decided that knives are not to be brought to school. A decision I can't say I disagree with. As for larger folding or survival knives, keep them in your BOB, and use them only when you really need to.



   
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(@scrounger)
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Hi all, new to the forum. Like that there are many Canucks getting their head around prepping.

KidPrepper, I edc a knife all the time. Mostly it's a Spyderco Delica. Great value for the money, plus you can get it in some nifty colours other then black. PM me and I can give you the name of a excellent Ontario dealer.

Never, never buy a knife from the US. Main reason for this other then financial is the danger of seizure. You may be buying a knife legal for sale in Canada, but if the pivot is loose and our friends at the border spend time trying to get it to flick open and they will, your knife is gone. If you do get one from the States, make sure you specify that they tighten pivot and zip tie it shut prior to shipping.

As mentioned in earlier posts some knives are illegal to own. Some by their design and some by the intent of owner. It think we all know the main ones. Push dagger, switch blade, balisong or butterfly knife, knifes that can be opened with a flick. This can change a legal knife into an illegal one by loosening the pivot. DON'T DO IT. Blades that open with a thumb stud, hole, wave or Assisted Openers like Kershaws are legal. As long as device that opens knife is is part of blade it's good to go. Aside from some knives being illegal, we have some pretty liberal laws concerning them in Canada. There is no restriction on length. Do try to match what you are carrying to your situation to avoid unwanted attention from the cops. Save the big Kabar belt knife for your camping trip, not your trip to mall.

Now onto the other part of knife carry that seem to trip people up, concealment. A knife is not a weapon, unless that is the intent of the person carrying it. It's a tool, nothing more. So if you are ever stopped by police and they ask about why you have your knife, NEVER NEVER NEVER say self defense. Doing so changes a simple innocuous tool into a weapon. You can carry any legal knife you want however you want, pocket, belt sheath. clipped as long as you intend to use it as a tool. If your intent is to use it as a tool then it is not a weapon and however you carry it would not be considered carrying a concealed weapon because IT IS NOT A WEAPON. It only becomes a weapon when your intent or use of it turns it into one, similar to a baseball bat. Hit a ball with it, not a weapon. bash in a crackheads skull, weapon.

We need to get back to the days when everyone carried a knife and it was accepted practice. If you needed to cut something you reached into your pocket and took out your Old Timer and did your thing.

So pick a knife that is appropriate for what you need , learn how to sharpen it and happy cutting.



   
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