Hey scrounger, welcome to the forum. You offer great advice on EDC-ing a knife. There are however, municipal bylaws that may have to be considered. One example is Montreal, where it is illegal to carry a knife unless you have a specific reason such as work. Simply having it as a tool "in case you need to cut something" doesn't cut it (pun intended). I don't know how many other cities may have adopted this type of law, but it is worth looking into.
I believe the Montreal public carry bylaw refers to knife as weapon, carry it as a tool. It also says you only need a reasonable excuse to carry one. You should be able to come up with a reasonable reason why you are carrying a knife. Seems like a catch all for police to use. Similar to loitering bylaws. I think any reasonable non idiot should be safe to carry there. Remember that you only pound down the nails that stick up. Knowledge is power
And thanks for the welcome Denob. Glad to be here
As my Dear departed father told me when I was young, "A knife is only as good as the person wielding it, and there will always be someone better who will take it and use it on YOU." 😐
wow! Really Ranger? i think many Canadians need to shed off this whole victim cultural indoctrination. Don't drink that Kool Aid. Our right to protect ourselves is an unalienable right, meaning that no power can take it from us. The problem is that government has seen fit to do just that. Is it right? NO.
Basic tenets of self defense: 1) always try to get away from a potentially violent situation, 2) if 1 is not possible, try to diffuse it, 3) failing that you have two choices: violence or acquiescence to violence. both options carry a risk. My view is that it is better to die on my feet than to die on my knees.
The idea that someone might take a knife from you and use it on you is irrelevant from a practical standpoint as would be attackers are probably already suitably armed, otherwise why attack unless you have an advantage? if you choose to carry a weapon, good on you, but you will need to understand that doing so has its own set of risks as does NOT carrying anything does.
I believe the Montreal public carry bylaw refers to knife as weapon, carry it as a tool. It also says you only need a reasonable excuse to carry one. You should be able to come up with a reasonable reason why you are carrying a knife. Seems like a catch all for police to use. Similar to loitering bylaws. I think any reasonable non idiot should be safe to carry there. Remember that you only pound down the nails that stick up. Knowledge is power
if it is a bylaw, then it is simply a fine. otherwise, if the knife is legal in Canada the police cannot confiscate it; unless you allow them to do so without a fight (legal fight that is). normally, when it goes to trial, the judge has usually thrown it out.
I believe the Montreal public carry bylaw refers to knife as weapon, carry it as a tool. It also says you only need a reasonable excuse to carry one. You should be able to come up with a reasonable reason why you are carrying a knife. Seems like a catch all for police to use. Similar to loitering bylaws. I think any reasonable non idiot should be safe to carry there. Remember that you only pound down the nails that stick up. Knowledge is power
if it is a bylaw, then it is simply a fine. otherwise, if the knife is legal in Canada the police cannot confiscate it; unless you allow them to do so without a fight (legal fight that is). normally, when it goes to trial, the judge has usually thrown it out.
Bugboy, you are correct in one thing...it is a fine. However, the knife WILL BE LEGALLY TAKEN FROM YOU and used in court should you decide to fight the fine. As for your claim of judges usually throwing it out...please provide backup proof.
What we, the adults here are trying to do is prevent a minor from careying a weapon for self defense in public.
EDC of a weapon by a 14 year old IS NOT ADVISED AND WILL NOT BE GLORIFIED BY THE MODS OR ADMIN OF THIS FORUM!
At the very least, we advise that you check legality before deciding to car a knife in public.
Um, what does edc mean to the people here? To me it means every day carry. As in knife, flashlight, key rings. You know what you carry on you day to day to make life better. Nothing in the original posters question implied self defense carry. In fact he mentioned several times that the knife would be used as tool. He wanted to know what other people carried as far as knives go. Subsequent posters turned it into a carrying a knife for self defense issue which it wasn't. Sorry if I'm offending anyone here but go back and reread KidPreppers original post and we can see where we let him down.
Scrounger,
the reason behind my concern is simply to make sure that the poster is aware enough to check bylaws. That was part of the original post...question of legality. Simply pointing out what may be an issue.
As to posts that claim that the punishment will simply be a fine...well that doesn't make it legal.
I know that everyone means well but giving minors "advice" on such matters with or without parental consent is totally unacceptable.
If it is not a criminal code infraction, there is no legal reason to confiscate private property. Read the criminal code. As far as a minor carrying a knife, probably best to carry a smaller one and/ or a multi tool... (i had no idea he was a minor).
anyway, to be honest, I expected this site to be more pro-defensive use of knives and guns. After all this is a prepping site is it not?
It is still Beans, Bullets and BandAids?? Or maybe its: Beans, Bullets and Bandaids If the Government Gives Us Permission...
I know that everyone means well but giving minors "advice" on such matters with or without parental consent is totally unacceptable.
The idea that a minor would be able to even discuss use of a knife apart from his parent's permission to do so is where he was failed. Perhaps this post should have been closed and handled as a polite pm??
Thanks to Hobo, Rogue, Sbasacco and Denob for giving sound advice on these matters. Others stated their views and yet others seem to want to belabor the discussion.
Bugboy If you have read the terms of use you know that "You agree not to post any material that..................... may violate any laws be it of your country, the country where our forum is hosted or International Law."
If you had read the all posts in this thread you would discovered that KidPrepper is a minor.
You would have also read that he was encouraged to discuss the matter with his parents.
You would also know that a few posts back KidPrepper wrote " Thanks everyone else I think im just going to just carry my little multi tool on my keys from now until im a bit older, then i will carry my folders."
Your comments that "he was failed" simply do not apply and your comment "It is still Beans, Bullets and BandAids?? Or maybe its: Beans, Bullets and Bandaids If the Government Gives Us Permission..." is basically is not helpful and added nothing to the discussion.
A question was asked, the topic was discussed and the member seems happy with the replies. End of story, this thread is now locked.