There are many discussions on here regarding water storage and purification.

i only went through the first few pages of forum titles for Ontario and didn't see anything on it.

As an addendum to the OP, if anyone has any links to topics already discussed here I'd appreciate them. sorry for reposting this topic. It makes sense that this topic has probably been discussed to death.

Here is one link. Hope I did this right...
http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=1462&p=26036&hilit=water+systems#p15873

http://www.alpharubicon.com/basicnbc/safefanwar.htm

for air, this is the first style this guy build, others changed it around a little. but the fan inside a box will work. depending how you place your pipe/lines you could have the box inside or outside the area, and these fans can be AC or DC powered.

i've seen a whole house system with this idea done with a furnace (of course the house was build to have the furnace supply the right pull, and fan in the furnace was updated for a stronger pull/blow) play with the idea, this is a very cost effective way of cleaning air.

http://www.alpharubicon.com/basicnbc/safefanwar.htm

for air, this is the first style this guy build, others changed it around a little. but the fan inside a box will work. depending how you place your pipe/lines you could have the box inside or outside the area, and these fans can be AC or DC powered.

i've seen a whole house system with this idea done with a furnace (of course the house was build to have the furnace supply the right pull, and fan in the furnace was updated for a stronger pull/blow) play with the idea, this is a very cost effective way of cleaning air.

Guys. Thanks for the links. I've actually found a couple other names to like Lifesaver water filtration. Am incontact to see if they sell in Canada/Ontario!

Air Filtration seems to be a tough one. Though I like the link above, I'm hoping to find something that has already gone through Engineering and QA testing and has a ULC or CSA or warnock hershey label or soemething. Still on the hunt, but I can't believe the quality equipment out there....it all seems American or European though...is there anything Canadian based more easily accessible?

A proper air filtering system is not cheap. The first line of defense is the in flow air vent, it will need a heat/shock wave trip on it. Second, a particulate bath, basically, a pan filled with water and mineral oil at the bottom of your inlet. Last but not the lease bit cheap, is your filters of activated charcoal. It this filter that will take most, not all of the nasties that has been developed by man. 😈
I was a shelter commander in Germany, at Baden Solingen. I had to know how to replace and repair every component of the system, ALL in a bunny suit (NBCW) with gas mask. ❗ :geek:

A proper air filtering system is not cheap.

Preach it brother ! 🙂

Your experience in Germany sounds very interesting. Gives you a unique perspective and I'm envious!

I wasn't expecting to spend a few hundred on this, and anticipate a few thousand just for the air filtration system itself...I still don't know if thats realistic or still on the thin side. I'm looking at an area of approx. 800-1000 square feet, 10ft high...

One word of caution, be sure to have a secondary means of delivering air to your shelter if the power is interrupted. A bicycle hooked up to a fan drive works with minimal effort. And please don’t forget your carbon monoxide detector.

i have one of the lifesaver water filter/jerry cans. it can filter 20,000 litres of water. there are also attachments to add onto it that will filter heavy water, up to 5,000 litres. i had mine shipped in from the states. manufactured in austrailia i believe. the jerry can is 20 litres and is easilly portable and i purchased an additional heavy water filter. the total with shipment was about 500$.

Our Lifesaver just arrived from England.

We got the jerrycan and the bottle with spare filters. Something they didn't tell us was that the filters only have a shelf-life of 3yrs if dry and 2yrs once used.

So, we can filter 50k liters of water but only in the next 3 years 😮

If you are looking for a long term water filtration unit for your bug out location or if you are intending to bug in for your home this is a consideration if you are not intending to buy a Berkey Filter. The BioSand Water Filter is a Canadian design based on old principals. Here is a link for a description: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb0xf3mRbJM

They are not hard to build yourself. I have built one using a large plastic garbage can as the shell with a thin reinforced concrete liner. Altogether it was under $50. Now it is in storage with the hope that I never need it.

Data on all portable systems are all inferior to Berkey. I just don't understand why someone would choose something other than Berkey (purifiers). Perhaps someone could enlighten me. Doulton would be my 2nd choice. Here is some data on systems. Cost per gallon matters too.

Berkey http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/replacement-filters/black-berkey/

Lifesaver Jerry can http://www.lifesaversystems.com/resources/jerrycan-technical-info

Katadyn http://www.katadyn.com/fileadmin/user_upload/katadyn_products/Downloads/Selection_Card_Filter_Technology_Comparison_EN.pdf

Lifestraw http://www.lifestraw.com.br/ls-p-testresult.pdf

Doulton http://doultonusa.com/HTML%20pages/portable_systems.htm

Steripen http://www.steripen.com/glossary

Aquamira http://aquamira.com/consumer/frontier-pro-filter-system/choose-right

Aquapail http://www.aquapail.com/product-description-1/product-description-2/product-description-3/product-description-4/

All of these are portable but as you can see the Berkey takes out the most with Doulton a close 2nd. Most are good for bacteria and virus but then again so is bleach.

Tablets were not covered since the water tastes poor and takes quite some time after adding the tablet before you can start drinking.

Boiling water does not remove anything other than bacteria and viruses. Read this http://www.kent.co.in/kent_technology/pure_water.aspx

I have spent countless hours on this stuff and I have yet to find something better than the Berkey. I know many on the site use it and love it as much as I do. RO is a good home unit but not very portable.

If you are looking for a long term water filtration unit for your bug out location or if you are intending to bug in for your home this is a consideration if you are not intending to buy a Berkey Filter. The BioSand Water Filter is a Canadian design based on old principals. .

Biosand is a great thing and I plan on making one next year. The top must be damp at all times so the good bacteria (a matting of bacteria develops) does not die off. It cant be used for drinking immediately as far as I know since the good bacteria has not developed yet. There is conflicting opinion on that one however. Do you use a sand/charcoal/sand/pea gravel layering ICRCC?

I just don't understand why someone would choose something other than Berkey (purifiers). Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

Berkey filters more stuff than Sawyer (metals and such) but it's limited in the quantity of water it can filter. The sport version can filter 100 liters from questionable sources. At 2 l/day/person that's 50 days of water per person just for drinking. If it was backflushable it would have been a no brainer.
I hope I will never have to filter water out of a toxic pond so I think the Sawyer point one would do just fine for me. Also I like the way you can use the same sawyer filter in multiple setups with different accessories , bottle, bucket, tap, water pouches and bags.