I don't need 30k rounds worth of ammuntion...

25k should be plenty! 😆

I believe the answer to the question will be based on your location and what you are personally prepping for. Sadly I think some of these people never grew beyond wanting to play army when they were kids. All things have to be in balance and you have to live your life as well. If that level of preparedness IS your life then you sacrifice what would be considered "normal". Secondly you have to weigh cost to benefit ratios. If your supply of money is unlimited thats fine...but for most of us it just isn't in any way realistic. Some of what you have described sounds like a trip over the paranoia line. Again..... balance is key. .....Just my thoughts.

I believe the answer to the question will be based on your location and what you are personally prepping for. Sadly I think some of these people never grew beyond wanting to play army when they were kids. All things have to be in balance and you have to live your life as well. If that level of preparedness IS your life then you sacrifice what would be considered "normal". Secondly you have to weigh cost to benefit ratios. If your supply of money is unlimited thats fine...but for most of us it just isn't in any way realistic. Some of what you have described sounds like a trip over the paranoia line. Again..... balance is key. .....Just my thoughts.

i agree, balance is the key, and some of the people i met aren't balanced (at ALL) others have been prepping for years, one guy his father flew a B52 with a Nuke during the cold war, him having a fall out shelter was just part of his entire life, he always had one. but that fall out shelter also holds all his garden thru out the entire winter, canned or in baskets.

in Canada having 10K rds of ammo could be considered illegal, what does a Canadian really need that much ammo for?
same with bullet proof vests, in some provinces they are illegal without the paper work, in some of the States, they are illegal because "if you're wearing one, you are up to something you shouldn't be" and "if a cop is shooting at you, you should go down!" . . .

i wear masks at work, but is having a military gas mask and filter, along with rifles, and more ammo then the common Canadian going to make a prepper look like a terrorist?

it's ILLEGAL in some parts of Ontario to fortify your house, if police and fire can't get in, you're a danger to them and yourself! but what about the crack head down the street? i have good doors, great locks, installed into the frame of the house, i have bars on my windows (nice wrought iron ones, came with the house) i have security cameras, motion sensors, alarms, dogs, and firearms. . .

why do i have all this? too keep honest people honest, and to protect my firearms from crack heads.

my firearms are some what hidden in the house, they are a long way from the door, in a big heavy safe, if you get to them, you've earned them. but i'm not as concerned with the loss of my stuff as i am with firearms being in the hands of criminals! so my firearms are well protected! my wife is WELL protected! if you break in you've had ample warning you've picked the wrong house. . .

but my house does seem fortified!

it seems a fine line between prepping for everything (even when balanced) and being looked at as a crazy fringe if not a criminal. . .

and thecrownsown, a big LOL 😀

Most laws related to fortification are municipal bylaws related to access by emergency services. That said they do specifically state that nothing should be bullet proof nor resistant to battering rams or vehicular contact. For an example of a bylaw regarding this from the City Of London Ontario see...
http://www.london.ca/By-laws/PDFs/fortification.pdf

Hey JustaBear,
you are a sane voice on this network and even though I pull off a few jokes to pull from the monotiny, Its sure good to hear someone with a real perspective. I hope you guys will fare well through this Hurricane and I hope that nothing that you can't handle will be all you have to handle. See you on the BC side. Everyone, best wishes and starp it down tight! LBJ

Thank you for the compliment LBJ. I try. I believe many on here take a lot of what is said at face value so I attempt to back up what I say with fact. Opinion on the other hand can lead people astray even if not intentionally and it should be labelled as such. We will deal with what comes and if it should be more than our ability then we'll see you on the "other side". Be safe and sane.

Who am I to judge? It should be that one can prep whatever necessary to feel mentally reassured. For some that is a 3 day emergency kit, some a year of food, for others 30,000 rounds of ammo. If anyone on this forum had access to an unlimited financial supply I am sure we would all purchase some items that may seem excessive. I would rather be over prepped then the alternative. Positive air pressure home... new item on the 2013 shopping list - 😀

I think part of the answer is if you are in a "group". I have seen groups set up where each person is responsible for mainly one thing. It's usually based on interests and skills. So one of the people in the group may have what looks like way too much food someone else may have what looks like too much fire power.

Part of it is what makes you feel safe. A head shrinker told me that anyone that preps has mental health issues. 🙂

I prep for weather events 1stly, storms, floods, cyclones here in recent years, the current situation in the US/Canada. This is the most likely, followed by civil unrest. i'm aiming towards being able to take care of myself without power or water for several weeks, and am pretty much there. Bugging in 1st option.

What i don't have and am not looking at is firearms - hard n illegal mostly here, i have some "weapons" and my place is solidly safe. I'm not physically able to do the "live off the land" backpak deal.So i'm not stocking tents, etc, or the "survivalist" track.

On the veiws of ilegal fortification, many of the old houses that were built would be considered illegal by todays standard. Obviously the law does not take in care of high crime areas, were as, if a person does not have protection on the windows, they get robbed. We are not yet in the same situation as many of the cities in the states, but we're getting there. 😈

I do admire all those people for being able to go so far but I don't for a couple of reasons. Of course money is an issue, but we all find the cash to buy what it is that we really want or need so that's not a great excuse for me.
I prep for anything that will threaten my current daily way of life. This big storm is a great example, power outage, winter storm, basically all your likeliest possibilities, I like to have covered. Aside from that, I have made some plans for worst case scenarios but nothing that I would really invest in aside from buying a book about it.

I just read the bylaw in the link that Jab provided . It is a good job I don't live in London! I would be a in violation of much of that ridiculous piece of legislation. What bothered me particularly was :
"4. 1 ENTRY – BY OFFICIALS
The Chief Building Official or a Municipal Law Enforcement Officer, may at any reasonable time, enter and inspect any land to determine whether this by-law, or an Order made under it is being complied with."

We don't live in a police state yet! I am reasonably sure that if they tried to enact this they would be leaving themselves open to civil litigation. Also the bylaw does not clearly spell out the penalties and would likely be thrown out of court. It would be interesting to see if anyone has gone to court as result of this nonsense.

THE CBO, or his designate cannot simply walk into your home. They need reasonable cause, and to cover there ass typically get a writ of some sort. To attempt to stroll into your house would open themselves and the City to some huge liability.

However, the Fire Marshall....they are legislated under the solicitor general's ministry. they have much more broad authority to enter and inspect. But again, I've always seen them get an order before exercising there authority.

The laws that are out there are simply to ensure the home is safe. For you, and for visitors, and perhaps for future owners. Essentialy you can't make a fortress that will trap you or someone inside, or keep the authorities having jurisdiction from getting in to assist (Fire Dept.)

So, you can't get a deadbolt which is keyed from both sides on your front door. That kind of stuff. Believe it or not, most of it is common sense...but the law is there for those that darwin hasn't flushed out yet...seriously.

I'm not stocking up on 'bugging out' things either...I have things more for getting the family through a frequent 'boil water advisory', or a power outage and I need to cook quick foods.
or there's a huge storm about to hit my area and I'm not leaving my house even if you pay me lmao
but no ammo, no guns, lot of bandaids and laundry soap, loads of food, and means to cook it.
now for a pressure canner...'meat from the freezer has to go somewhere', is what I tell my hubby, hope he listens this year lol