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(@mercy6)
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Hi, I'm new here. This looks like a good group.
I have a couple questions.
I remember reading somewhere that it is cheaper to buy mylar bags in the states, even with shipping. I am wanting to buy the 20 x 30 inch ones, 5 mil. Does anyone know which companies in the states ship to Canada? Also, does anyone know who sells desiccant packets, whether in Canada, or from the US that ships to Canada?
Thanks so much :0)



   
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(@snowandrain)
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Our church cannery sell both...cheap!!!

Rain


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(@morningcoffee)
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Rain is right. We looked around for decent pricing on mylar bags and couldn't find any that shipped to Canada for a reasonable price. We stumbled on the LDS cannery quite by accident and were really pleased to a) get the product locally b) get them reasonably priced and c) get some additional advice from the couple who were working there. They provided a wealth of information and we really appreciated the time they spent with us.


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(@mercy6)
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Our church cannery sell both...cheap!!!

Rain

I phoned the LDS near our area, and they did sell mylar bags, but not the 20 x 30 inch ones. And they didn't sell the desiccants. Yours sells both these items? Perhaps the fellow I talked to wasn't aware. Does your church also sell hard white wheat in 25 lbs bags, or only in the #10 cans?
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Birden Solutions? Not so cheap?
http://www.bridensolutions.ca/5-6-gallon-mylar-bag-silver-foil-20-x-30
This is where I bought mine and they were great.

oh just found this discussion,
http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3095

and then I read it and was not very informative..... ❓



   
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(@snowandrain)
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The order form with available products can be found here http://providentliving.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-order-form?lang=eng

Bags and oxygen absorbers can be found at the bottom right


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(@farmgal)
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Hi, first thanks Rain for posting that info.

Second, the above post link was informative, I wanted cheaper bags, I had linked it clearly that I was looking at bags and prices for my soap making, nothing to do with food grade or not, and someone was very kind enough to point out a excellent supplier, then the post slide into a back and forth on the quality of those bags, I had been clear that i was in fact not looking for big 5 gallon bags, I wanted small ones for other uses.

So while I will agree that the topic was not useful in the sense of the request for five gallon size bags, it was very helpful as related to my first question at the start.


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(@mercy6)
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The order form with available products can be found here http://providentliving.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-order-form?lang=eng

Bags and oxygen absorbers can be found at the bottom right

Hi Rain,
I printed the order form, and saw that their oxygen absorbers were a good price. Do you know what the o2 absorbers' cc value is, sold at the LDS?
Thanks again



   
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(@snowandrain)
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Here is the order form for the Canadian Price list of what the LDS cannery sells...The cannery that I use is in Calgary, but I believe we have some all over Canada...I know we have one in Edmonton and one wet cannery in Lethbridge. (Would love to get a bunch of us together and go do some wet canning in Lethbridge some day 🙂 )

http://providentliving.org/self-reliance/food-storage/home-storage-center-order-form?lang=eng

On the order form you will see that we sell oxygen absorber packets for 10 cents a piece, one box of pouches is $1.25 and one dry pack pouch is 30 cents...I'm sorry but I don't know the size other then I know that it will take a bit more food than the #10 can will take...Someone asked if we carry white beans? Yes we do, and on the order form you will see that they are $4.25 for a #10 can at the weight of 5.3 lbs, $4.70 for a pouch at the weight of 6.5 lbs, and $16.00 for a 25 lbs bag.

Please keep in mind that the church does not gain a profit from the sale of these foods and items...this is a service the church provides for their members and their friends (we DO NOT accept donations for this service). Any other questions please do not hesitate in dropping me a line...on here on in email at: raincanada at telus dot net

Rain 🙂


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Just one quick important tip to remember. Do NOT put oxygen absorber packets in sugar. If you do, you will end up with a block of sugar instead or granulated sugar...

Also, remember this...plastic breathes...so it's not the best way to store food for a long period of time...also there's no use in putting oxygen absorber packets in plastic buckets because air goes through plastic...Another option would be to put a mylar bag inside the bucket and put in an absorber (not for sugar) and seal the bag...

Rain 🙂


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(@offthepath)
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does anyone know if there are one of these locations in the fraser valley...would love to order some items from the sheet, but can't seem to find a local location.

thanks
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(@morningcoffee)
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There appears to be an LDS Church Home Storage Centre at 9355B 198th St # 105B Langley, BC V1M 3J9 Phone Number 604-882-7586. Don't know whether that helps you or not. You could give them a call, they might be able to help yu.


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(@offthepath)
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Thanks Morningcoffee, that helps a ton...they are not too far away, so I'll ring them up tomorrow and see what they offer.

Appreciate the response and help.

Cheers
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"Also, remember this...plastic breathes...so it's not the best way to store food for a long period of time...also there's no use in putting oxygen absorber packets in plastic buckets because air goes through plastic...Another option would be to put a mylar bag inside the bucket and put in an absorber (not for sugar) and seal the bag..."

Rain

This one caught me as something to look up, so I did some research.
I found this on Answers.com
“If you are really interested, it is worthwhile to realize what plastics are. First, there are many different types all called, generically "plastic". Plastics are polymers, composed of long chain hydrocarbon molecules that have some degree of cross linking between molecules. A bowling ball is cross linked to the point that it is one big molecule. Other plastics are "soft" and "stretchy" because they are not cross linked as much. In these, on an atomic scale there are lots of "holes", gaps where there is no cross linking and, therefore, the hydrocarbon molecules are not held rigidly together. If the water bottle is old or if the trash bag is old, or if they were exposed to sunlight or certain chemicals, the hydrocarbons and/or ross linked bonds change. Plastics can decompose or can become brittle.”
Without quoting a bunch of other sources, it basically comes down to the quality of the plastic.
Technically because of the linking in the above quote, all plastics can in theory allow other molecules such as oxygen through, but in plastic pales, good thick pop bottles and heavy bags like the ones used for a vacuum sealing machine, it would take many years before this became a problem.
I have clothing in my BOB in Zip-locs that the air has been vacuumed out of and medical supplies in vacuum sealed bags. I have beans and other things in pop bottles that I have put oxygen absorbers in and those bottles have been deformed from the absorber doing its job. I also have things stored in plastic pales that are food grade containers and the lids are sucked down from the absorbers. All of these must therefore be air tight enough that they could shrink down the way they did in the first place.


Hmmm, maybe I should rethink the quiet part...


   
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(@snowandrain)
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Ok then, let me give you another reason, I don't want to give the rats a chance to get at my food. I can everything 🙂 I have access to a portable canner and I can nearly everything. If you want to use plastic, then go for it... 🙂 🙂 🙂 to each his own...I trust sturdy tin cans more than I do plastic 🙂 having stored food for 35 years, cans are my preference 🙂

Rain 🙂


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