Tradesman,

Do you have further on this topic, as in reference articles on peppers being considered bad people?

I now reside in the USA and am following up with preparedness websites. I don't think that anyone is being targeted by "the Feds" for doing simple preparedness activities, though there seems that some may engage in activities that are more in-line with extremism than preparedness.

There are lots of video on the web, start a search with "preppers considered as terrorists" and you will find what your looking for. It's not looking too good for a USA citizen prepper.
I'll give you starters, here is a PDF file ; http://www.shtfplan.com/images/articlepics/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf
Some more links; http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/preppers-are-now-considered-to-be-potential-terrorists
http://offgridsurvival.com/randpaulwarnsofmilitarylockingupamericancitizens/
http://www.infowars.com/national-guard-whistleblower-doomsday-preppers-will-be-treated-as-terrorists/

There are a lot of different "levels" of preppers...
We see the power failure prepper, who has a basic power fail kit with flashlights, radio, water, f/a kit, etc.
The we have a more advanced version of that, where food and water storage goes up to a few months, tools, gear, and skills are gathered...the kind of self reliant prepper if you will.
Then there are preppers who seem more concerned about what the government is doing, which is great, but it can go WAY beyond reasonable concern and get into a "fight the man" type of prepper. Usually more concerned with firearms and ammunition, these guys sometimes border on extremism...which is where I could sort of understand the government keeping an eye on them.
The average prepper keeps under the radar...gathering food, tools, and other supplies and learning to be self reliant for a given period of time. As such, no one is bothering them or really keeping an eye on them, because there, well, harmless (unless provoked of course).

I thought I would chime in. If you have been around the survivalist world long enough, you will realise that there is a percentage of preppers that ARE terrorists. The Timothy Mcvieghs haven't gone away. They recruit based around prepper fears and fantasies... and hopes...but more on that later. You are far more likely to be on watchlists is you are Native, an environmentalist or a leftist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sjJR8p8ck

I read this over someone's shoulder yesterday. https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/why-did-canada-take-away-captain-paul-watsons-passport,7813
It should get you concerned about Canada's Bill C51

Yes, there is a popular fantasy in prepperdome and especially amongst the right, the guberment is collecting "Red Lists" of Christians to put them death camps buy cattle cars, intending to give them the number of the beast through microchips. This gets re written nowdays with less religios overtones.
I don't have time today to talk about the influences of Christian Reconstructionists (Rushdouni Gary North) on modern Survivalism Preppping or the militant aspects that link to The Christian Patriots Defence League ( a revolutionary arm of the KKK). If you are advocating and acting apon the violent overthrow of the government, its rather silly to suddenly be shocked when the government considers you a terrorist. "Shocked! Shocked, I say..."

OK. Back to the Hope Fantasy part . Pay attention to the first half of this post from My favorite Asperger's. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca/2015/06/the-era-of-dissolution.html

One of the great dangers to new preppers is the competing interest that are actively recruiting YOU. Some of them are well finance by corporate and political interest.
Don't always assume that someone using the term "Prepper" is correct in their thinking. Read from many different perspectives. Wade through the different perspective. Remember, You are a consumer of the product that people are trying to sell you. You are the mark.

I have a C5 Rule of Survival- There is no such thing as a prepper expert. Anyone that claims to be is just trying to sell you something, whether that is a product, service, political or religious view.

I thought I would chime in. If you have been around the survivalist world long enough, you will realise that there is a percentage of preppers that ARE terrorists. The Timothy Mcvieghs haven't gone away. They recruit based around prepper fears and fantasies... and hopes...but more on that later. You are far more likely to be on watchlists is you are Native, an environmentalist or a leftist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sjJR8p8ck

I read this over someone's shoulder yesterday. https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/why-did-canada-take-away-captain-paul-watsons-passport,7813
It should get you concerned about Canada's Bill C51

Yes, there is a popular fantasy in prepperdome and especially amongst the right, the guberment is collecting "Red Lists" of Christians to put them death camps buy cattle cars, intending to give them the number of the beast through microchips. This gets re written nowdays with less religios overtones.
I don't have time today to talk about the influences of Christian Reconstructionists (Rushdouni Gary North) on modern Survivalism Preppping or the militant aspects that link to The Christian Patriots Defence League ( a revolutionary arm of the KKK). If you are advocating and acting apon the violent overthrow of the government, its rather silly to suddenly be shocked when the government considers you a terrorist. "Shocked! Shocked, I say..."

OK. Back to the Hope Fantasy part . Pay attention to the first half of this post from My favorite Asperger's. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca/

One of the great dangers to new preppers is the competing interest that are actively recruiting YOU. Some of them are well finance by corporate and political interest.
Don't always assume that someone using the term "Prepper" is correct in their thinking. Read from many different perspectives. Wade through the different perspective. Remember, You are a consumer of the product that people are trying to sell you. You are the mark.

I have a C5 Rule of Survival- There is no such thing as a prepper expert. Anyone that claims to be is just trying to sell you something, whether that is a product, service, political or religious view.

I too have a rule of survival; stay invisible, and trust no one, keep a look out so you see them coming.

Here is a perfect example. Remember all that prepper hoi about the guberment making it illegal to collect rainwater. It certainly read in your above mentioned sights like ShitOfAPlanFan and the type two bipolar at infowars. Turns out, It was a big heaping pile. But it sure makes those guys rich in advertising.

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-06-12/there-s-nothing-heroic-about-stealing-water-from-the-commons

You are going to have to fall for a few of them before becoming wise to the manipulation.

Interestingly, some prepare against a government uprising (you know, the FEMA camps and all?) and having the Feds out to get them. These folks can be pretty outspoken, talk of having arsenals to protect themselves against government forces and post everything online, which will, in turn, bring attention to them by... The Feds?!?!

Intelligence isn't a requirement to declare oneself a prepper...

Though it's a little off topic, I think this appropriately fits here. Right-wing Terrorists Kill More Americans Than Islamic Extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiE6_xJ6Zk

maybe not terrorist but people living off the grid are almost criminal in usa

Intelligence isn't a requirement to declare oneself a prepper...

couldnt stop laughing with this one. I needed this one on a Monday.

C5, sage advice to analyze critically... Rather than being an expert at prepping per se, I think many have unique and complementary skills and ideas to offer. Personally I have the advantage of being knowledgeable enough about certain govt activities and I wouldn't fall for some of the anti-govt paranoia I hear sometimes in prepperland online.

I also agree with Denob-there are different types of preppers, some less likely to be scrutinized as a potential extremist. Gardening, self sufficiency and development of survival skills is considered pretty benign. I think once you get into weapons and any sort of promotion of vigilantism like some WROL scenarios, that gets more iffy. Considering that Canada has its own legacy of neo-nazism and past prairie ties to Idaho separatist groups, I certainly would not want to be associated with those folks. I keep hearing about off-grid people in Florida getting in trouble with the local govt, but lots of people in cottages up here seem to be off-grid with no issues...

On 3 difference occasion I've had people accuse me of hoarding because I have stored food and previsions . One guy said my behavior contributed to world hunger . People have been so dumbed down it's really disturbing . These same people are always anti gun and love big government .

this would be a good website to point to if anyone gives you grief about prepping:

http://www.emergencymanagementontario.ca/english/beprepared/beprepared.html

not that id suggest going public, not that 'they' arnt out to get you...but at least in ontario its seems to be ok to be able to be a bit prepared. just dont show em how crazy you are 🙂

Actually all provinces, as well as the federal government have emergency preparedness campaigns. Some cities, too. I took the training for my local one and am giving an info session in 2 weeks - already did one earlier in the summer. I guess the question is where do you draw the line between preparedness/self-sufficiency and anti-government or anti-establishment. Personally I think Canadians, with our gun control and extreme weather, are more mellow about this, or maybe we are less vocal. I have a feeling that in Canada, preppers are less likely to be viewed by the government as a threat, unless you act like Weibo Ludwig & co.