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peppercorn
(@peppercorn)
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Good video, your pretty well stitched up once they lock on, unless you are near some triple canopy forest. Let me know where you can find that kind of forest in Saskatchewan!
Since I have no plans to run anywhere, I am more concerned with everyday surveillance. Riddle me this batman.....I had a flat tire last week while in the city. I made one phone call where I spoke about the flat tire I was changing, then I took my tire to Tiretown for repair. I used my bank card to pay for the repair. Now when I use the computer 1/6 to 1/5th the adds I see are for tire brands or tire sellers!! figure that one out?
I think I have figured it out...my phone must be tracking the locations,stores I go into.


Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.


   
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(@gallowshumour)
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Good video, your pretty well stitched up once they lock on, unless you are near some triple canopy forest. Let me know where you can find that kind of forest in Saskatchewan!
Riddle me this batman.....I had a flat tire last week while in the city. I made one phone call where I spoke about the flat tire I was changing, then I took my tire to Tiretown for repair. I used my bank card to pay for the repair. Now when I use the computer 1/6 to 1/5th the adds I see are for tire brands or tire sellers!! figure that one out?
I think I have figured it out...my phone must be tracking the locations,stores I go into.

Did you use your Internet connection to look up Tiretown's phone number, or to search for tire services? Because if you did, that's probably why you're being targeted with tire ads. The ISP and search engine providers track your every search, and sell that data to advertisers to target you. Who knows who else is buying that data.

I get the same thing. Last week I did an Internet search for the Coleman oven one poster talked about on this site. The same day I started getting ads for Coleman products and camping gear popping up in my Facebook page and on news sites I was reading.

Do you order from Amazon? You might want to be careful and check the privacy settings for the feature called "Your wish list." If you haven't set it to private mode, it'll be spitting out your wish list to the whole Internet with your name on it. Type your name into your browser for fun and see what comes up on you.



   
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peppercorn
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Nope. did not need to look up tiretowns phone, I knew where it was and drove straight there. looked up nothing on my phone, in fact I have the location feature that google requests turned off. Regardless the adds appeared on my home computer when I returned home....makes me think my phone and computer are conspiring against me. People think I am crazy because I have tape over the camera feature on my computer screens.


Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.


   
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(@gallowshumour)
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People think I am crazy because I have tape over the camera feature on my computer screens.

I don't know why they'd think you're crazy, a lot of security experts tell you to do that. I have a post-it note stuck over mine.



   
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(@helicopilot)
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So why would you be at the receiving end of a "search and destroy mission"??

Anyway, technology is REALLY overplayed in Hollywood but you knew that, right?

You can't really have ways to fool the sensor. You can mitigate it with clothing and such and "operate" during thermal crossover periods, but at the end, what you need to fool is the operators. Not knowing your full motives (or those of the other readers...) I'm purposely not sharing EO/IR "tactics" on this thread. I'll say that this is a bit like being chased by a police dog. You can't really fool the dog when it's on your tracks, but you fool the handler.



   
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Wayne
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Thermography has its limitations. At the low-end, It can pick-up a heat signature, but it's difficult to detect the difference between a human being and another warm blooded creature. A smaller size signature isn't always an accurate depiction of what's being tracked, as partial signatures are common (blocked by another object). High quality sensors can detect temperatures to 3/100 of a Degree C.

The terrain is the main limitation. Triple canopy jungle has been used, but there are also complications with other heat sources (rocks heated by the sun for example). Suffice it to say that there are two main variables to detection when using uncooled MWIR and LWIR equipment. The first is the quality of the camera. Secondly is the expertise of the operator. A good operator (if properly equipped) can tell the difference between the heat signature of a person in a desert environment. Many Police helicopters and Snipers use the most current technology.


None you improvise, one (or more) is luxury.


   
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(@thecrownsown)
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Since I have no plans to run anywhere, I am more concerned with everyday surveillance. Riddle me this batman.....I had a flat tire last week while in the city. I made one phone call where I spoke about the flat tire I was changing, then I took my tire to Tiretown for repair. I used my bank card to pay for the repair. Now when I use the computer 1/6 to 1/5th the adds I see are for tire brands or tire sellers!! figure that one out?
I think I have figured it out...my phone must be tracking the locations,stores I go into.

Every time I read stories like this I want to rant about how we have/had a truly secure and private OS on smart phones. OS10 through Blackberry. And we as a society tossed it aside for fun apps and willfully trading personal information for privacy/security. In a way..it was also Blackbery's own fault thinking that selling privacy would be something people would care about in today's age....

The internet is full of articles from tech magazines to privacy advocates talking about Android and Apple based OS's and apps which mine your information. Nothing is for free... Heck even Facebook's last quarterly profit reports were untouched even after the privacy scandal. People just don't care...

If the Crown wants to monitor you, they have a process they have to follow to minimize abuse of your personal ights and I doubt there is much we as everyday citizens can do about that. There is probably a reason they would want to follow you...so kudos to them.

As for personal privacy and keeping corporate eyes out of your business and minimizing more nefarious online persons from taking away your privacy...my simple ideas:

-Don't use points or awards cards.
-Use Protonmail. (Not gmail, hotmail, live, etc.)
-Use an OS10 Blackberry phone. They are a few years old, but still lots out there for cheap. Blackberry Passport, Leap, z10, z30, q10, etc. I've never heard about a security breach with OS10. Perhaps because it wasn't popular enough for hackers to pay attention to while there are way more lucrative and easier targets out there..and also Blackberry was militant in its pursuit of privacy and security. They even built security features into the hardware itself...
-Stay away/be selective on what you put on social media. Facebook, Instagram...if its a free service...they are making their money somehow. A business model demands it.
-Avoid Siri, smart tv's, smart fridges, roomba's, etc. A quick read of the "fine print" on users agreements...or even an online search of privacy issues with all the new smart technology can send shivers down your spine. Roomba's collecting information on the size of your home for marketing purposes...Samsung warning people not to have private conversations near their smart tv's which are listening...and this isn't crazy conspiracy stuff. This is main stream media/tech magazine normal every day stuff.

Rant ended... 🙂


https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738


   
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Wayne
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Good points Crown. When it comes to privacy, I don't think that people care to protect their information because they fail to comprehend the consequences of not protecting it. On the lighter side, Hillary Clinton uses a Blackberry... LOL


None you improvise, one (or more) is luxury.


   
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(@scrounger)
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Take the time to read this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/



   
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(@thecrownsown)
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Take the time to read this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/

That was chilling. I could have lived in ignorance a bit longer...


https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738


   
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(@scrounger)
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Crowns,

Think about what the things we may not know.

In the mean time another great read about Peter.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand



   
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(@dusty)
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Hey Helicopilot, valid concerns. I’m referring more to a Red Dawn scenario with that question, but I totally get why we cant just disclose all the fine print of our knowledge and expertise.
Just like I wont tell anyone how to smuggle stuff across the border. That would just make my job harder.
Thanks for your insight that you gave though!



   
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(@anonymous)
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Hard topic to discuss for security reasons, but if one wishes to have some privacy they need to go very grey. No smart phone, just old talk types ( yes i know, they can be tracked as well, but like i said,”grey”)
No computers in bedrooms etc, , VPN’s help a bit for casual privacy

In the end, one would need to go full on bin laden type darkness to try and remain invisible. Beyond that you are screwed for privacy. Age old game of cat and mouse



   
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(@anonymous)
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Thermography has its limitations. At the low-end, It can pick-up a heat signature, but it's difficult to detect the difference between a human being and another warm blooded creature. A smaller size signature isn't always an accurate depiction of what's being tracked, as partial signatures are common (blocked by another object). High quality sensors can detect temperatures to 3/100 of a Degree C.

The terrain is the main limitation. Triple canopy jungle has been used, but there are also complications with other heat sources (rocks heated by the sun for example). Suffice it to say that there are two main variables to detection when using uncooled MWIR and LWIR equipment. The first is the quality of the camera. Secondly is the expertise of the operator. A good operator (if properly equipped) can tell the difference between the heat signature of a person in a desert environment. Many Police helicopters and Snipers use the most current technology.

Agree, the operator can make a huge difference. Add A.I. to camera systems and things get real interesting! Top operator with right tools is hard to fool



   
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(@anonymous)
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Take the time to read this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/

That was chilling. I could have lived in ignorance a bit longer...

I prefer knowledge, no matter how unsettling



   
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