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(@anonymous)
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Hypothetical situation.

The prepper has nothing besides 100 baloney sandwiches and 100 bottles of water and survival skills.

The rich man has everything. Money, a big house, flatscreen tvs, cars of every sort, and a huge amount of land etc etc.

Disaster strikes.

The rich man gets hungry, and will do anything for food and water.

The prepper trades 1 sandwich and 1 bottle of water for all of the rich mans possessions.

He eats the sandwich and drinks the water.

The prepper now has 99 sandwiches and 99 bottles of water. He has the house, land, cars and tvs. The rich man now has nothing.



   
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(@farmgal)
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While I get your point, I don't agree,

having land, that I have carefully tended and created not only garden space, pasture, and woodland, but many fruiting bushes, medical herbal gardens, having built a food forest both on my own land and in the area around me, having both a dug well, plus a drilled well on a hand pump, having the means to cut the tree's that give me the wood that heats the home.. along with many many other things that would need to be considered a "something"

I would much much rather have these somethings, then nothing...

Can it be taken from me, yes,

But to compare a prepper who has spent years building both their life skills, and their equipment vs a main stream keep up with the jones is not a fair compare.

There is a lot of shades of grey in the middle, its just not anywhere near as black and white as your examples are giving..


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(@anonymous)
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It's nothing more than the fable of "The ant and the grasshopper".



   
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(@farmgal)
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Fair enough but even at the age of five, I thought the ant should let the grasshopper suffer its fate for its own personal failings..


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(@ottawalonewolf)
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rich people don't become rich without having some special traits, which might just serve them well in disaster situation.
some peppers are financial established as well.



   
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(@dascribbler)
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The Prepper angle aside, the thread Topic" "Having Nothing is Having Everything"

I can agree with that to an extent. A friend of mine once told me "The things you own, own you" and he was right. Having nothing gives you complete freedom with nothing to tie you down. But, if you look at it from the Prepper perspective, having nothing is a disaster waiting to happen.

Its all perspective I guess.


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(@ottawalonewolf)
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I think the originator of this threat is trying to say is: " invest on skills and training instead fancy tools and rely on technology"



   
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(@farmgal)
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The origanal post has now been modified by the poster, which has been done to effect the way it reads, the comments where a reflection of the way the post was worded when first put up.

if you look at the first post, you will see at the bottom that it has been edited five times so far.


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(@anonymous)
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The origanal post has now been modified by the poster, which has been done to effect the way it reads, the comments where a reflection of the way the post was worded when first put up.

if you look at the first post, you will see at the bottom that it has been edited five times so far.

Yes I modified it. I changed "I and YOU" to "prepper and rich man" I also removed a couple lines. The story has not changed one bit. It was so offensive to FARMGAL that I first changed YOU to I. Personally I'm disgusted with HER response. It's just my take on the reality of prepping.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Fair enough but even at the age of five, I thought the ant should let the grasshopper suffer its fate for its own personal failings..

Total Disregard for ANYONE else.



   
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(@anonymous)
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The last line I also removed. It originally read. "Then "I" invited "HIM" into my house to share all the wonderful "things" because "I" knew what he was going through.

Disgusting first response. I obviously offended FARMGAL she took it as if she was the "rich man" and not the "prepper" and this is why I modified it. It reads EXACTLY the same.



   
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(@glasshouse)
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Hi, I think you should re evaluate her response. I took it as fair and balanced. There is no need to be offended or upset. When we post in public forums we open ourselves up to the opinions of others and need to accept them for what they are. This site seems to have enough drama nowadays lets not create more when not necessary. Have a good day and I see your point about prepping versus living in the material world. Good topic lets keep it on point 🙂



   
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oldschool
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I took it to mean that "rich man" is by "society" standards - keeping up with the Jones. Which to most of us means little or nothing. To a prepper/homesteader/hippie...to be rich is to have the means to follow our dreams of being self sufficient - which for at least a few on here they are "rich" but not based on what society thinks.

From my co-workers point of view, I have nothing....from a prepper/hippie point of view although I may not be rich I am on my way.

I would rather have "nothing" based on my co-workers point of view.



   
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(@scrounger)
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Have you noticed that if you are not consuming/being a consumer, not trying to keep up with the jones, then you are deemed suspect.



   
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Antsy
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For me, having nothing, is having nothing. Last Thursday when the water was cresting here, I was able to lend out a generator to friends of my neighbour who needed one to keep the sump going after the city cut the power. Yesterday, I brought brooms, shovels, a wed/dry shop vac, and pressure washer to some other folks who were in the wrong place for this storm. My back was available regardless and there are hundreds who are helping out that way which is great. Having the preps to put those backs to good use is important as well. Making a virtue of scarcity seems like a tool developed by those trying to protect their abundance.


Needs must when the devil drives.


   
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