BOB Camp Stove

As said above, I would stay away from any butane canister stoves. Any benefit from the small size of the stove itself is outweighed by the heavy, expensive, and hard to source canisters.

If you want other options, they are not hard to come by on the cheap.

Methyl hydrate (aka methyl alcohol, fondue fuel etc.) makes a good fuel, requires little more than a cup and a stand to put a pot on. You can literally pour it in a simple metal cup and put a pot on a stand over top of it. Or you can make one ( http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Pocket-Sized-Alcohol-Stove/ ) or buy one made by Trangia. They also burn HEET antifreeze rather well. The easiest low budget thrift store version is an old fondue set. Esbit stoves have the same issue as canister stoves (where do you get your fuel?), but the stands can be used for a potstand over a methyl hydrate setup. Methyl might be hard to get in a shtf scenario, but right now it sells for 10 buck a gallon at can tire. That's about half the price of white gas. And it burns clean, producing just CO2 ant H20. But if your have an MSR, gasoline is still a lot cheaper, and works in your car, generator, lawnmower, etc, too. I would even venture to try an oil/gas mix without hesitation in my MSR.

Or you can get a BushBuddy wood gas stove, or better yet make one yourself.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Woodgas-Can-Stove/
Or learn to make a rocket stove.

You should not need to shell out big bucks, and if you do, I would still suggest a multi-fuel platform like the MSR. And if you learn to make your own you might find you have a marketable SHTF skill, and save your neighbors or family a lot of heartache. Make them and share them.

I think the problem is that we are comparing stoves with different fuels, different purposes (to carry or use at a site) and also one that can recharge our i phones. I was disappointed to know that the biolite may not be able to recharge for too long. Although personally my worry will be getting in touch with my kids initially to know they are on their way home (with the bug out kits I'm preparing for them).I appreciate reading all of your research and opinions.

the biolite will continue charging as long as it has sufficient heat (as long as the fire keeps going).

think the problem is that we are comparing stoves with different fuels, different purposes (to carry or use at a site) and also one that can recharge our i phones.

Sure,that's fair enough Joy, but if you want to recharge your cell phone, I wouldn't rely on a new unproven technology. People always get excited for the next new thing, but I think a wind-up flashlight phone charger or a roll up solar panel would be much more reliable. And you can do it on the move, not when you are trying to cook a meal without spilling your stuff. There are lots of problems I can foresee with the 'charger' aspect of it - like in the middle of winter when the stove melts all the snow around it getting everything soaked, or in the summer when you spill, or leave your cord too close to the heat (who hasn't burnt their socks or boots around a fire). It's a neat technology, a neat idea, but impractical for all but the largest budgets. Even for the largest budgets I would suggest there are better uses for your money. But to each his (or her) own.
Personally, as I said, my go to stove is a Whisperlite, and my backup stove is a 3-stone campfire.
As Mors Kochanski says "The more you know, the less you carry."

I like these ones:

http://www.titaniumgoat.com/stoves.html

They are pricy but they are light. You can find cheaper versions made of steel.

They are foldable and can be used as tent stove. I'm thinking if you need to get on foot and you need to sleep in a tent or in a temp shelter they can be used inside because they have a chimney.

$650 for a tiny stove?

That's like one and a half solar panels or like 6 or 7 Antsy Solar Systems.

No thanks

I can see the value of this if you have a vehicle to carry the rest of your gear. It has a chimney certainly.... but.... the tent would need to have a heatproof flange built into it and a tent with that feature would be larger and heavy. Not the sort of thing you would have in a BOB

$650 for a tiny stove?

That's like one and a half solar panels or like 6 or 7 Antsy Solar Systems.

No thanks

I can see the value of this if you have a vehicle to carry the rest of your gear. It has a chimney certainly.... but.... the tent would need to have a heatproof flange built into it and a tent with that feature would be larger and heavy. Not the sort of thing you would have in a BOB

I don't see why it has to be larger and heavier. Here is a stove jack:

http://www.somomule.com/catalog/item/4593086/7781084.htm

It's made of fiberglass and it doesn't look too big to me. The small stove was around 2lbs and 350$. This setup is perfect for backpacking.
In the hypothetical case that you would need to bug out during winter time imagine yourself trying to sleep in a tent at -20 temp and then, deep in the night you will look into the ever looming dark and think... Damn it, I should have listened to prom and buy that stove instead of the solar panels 😉

I agree you could put that into your tent to make it functional. What size tent would you be looking at? How would you manage the tent floor? Curious.

carry a $4.00 spade and build one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUM0jsBUPSs&list=UUSi64g0azbv5ULkDLxMN9tw&index=23&feature=plcp . problem solved.

works for temporary shelters as well (such as a lean-to), just make sure the smoke has a place to go.

I'm a Tipi kind of guy.

Four pecker poles, taking with tops, 20' of paracord and I can have this up in less than 60 minutes. No stove, pipe, jacks or BS required ..... and warm as toast. Sitting on a pallet with the rest of my equipment ready to load into my BOV.

Here is the same one I have set up by the skating pond for the kids and their friends.

this is probobly a silly question, but did you make that teepee yourself? or are their manufactured parts, such as the cut of the canvas

[edit] im suprised it not olive drab with some of that cammo netting tossed over it 😆

I don't see why it has to be larger and heavier. Here is a stove jack:

http://www.somomule.com/catalog/item/4593086/7781084.htm

It's made of fiberglass and it doesn't look too big to me. The small stove was around 2lbs and 350$. This setup is perfect for backpacking.
In the hypothetical case that you would need to bug out during winter time imagine yourself trying to sleep in a tent at -20 temp and then, deep in the night you will look into the ever looming dark and think... Damn it, I should have listened to prom and buy that stove instead of the solar panels 😉

I cannot imagine carrying a 2lb stove in my backpack. A 50lb pack on an 8 day backpacking trip is a lot. It adds up very, very quick. If you think you can do it, great, but you better test it first. And then there is 'backpacking' with a canvas tent. Because you sure wouldn't want a woodstove in a nylon tent, though I have hung a candle lantern from the roof of them, to bring the temp up from about -17 to just below zero (lasted only while the candle was still burning). You could always build a quinzee if there was snow.

We are still talking BOB's after all. A BOV would be different, and their folding stove looks interesting.

this is probobly a silly question, but did you make that teepee yourself? or are their manufactured parts, such as the cut of the canvas

[edit] im suprised it not olive drab with some of that cammo netting tossed over it 😆

This ones been up for eight years and looks a little droopy and neglected. Kids don't use it much anymore.

No, I purchased two from a company in Montana (now defunct) Just out of Flathead Lake.

Funny you should mention olive drab, that's one of it colors I painted it. Lol

I don't see why it has to be larger and heavier. Here is a stove jack:

http://www.somomule.com/catalog/item/4593086/7781084.htm

It's made of fiberglass and it doesn't look too big to me. The small stove was around 2lbs and 350$. This setup is perfect for backpacking.
In the hypothetical case that you would need to bug out during winter time imagine yourself trying to sleep in a tent at -20 temp and then, deep in the night you will look into the ever looming dark and think... Damn it, I should have listened to prom and buy that stove instead of the solar panels 😉

I cannot imagine carrying a 2lb stove in my backpack. A 50lb pack on an 8 day backpacking trip is a lot. It adds up very, very quick. If you think you can do it, great, but you better test it first. And then there is 'backpacking' with a canvas tent. Because you sure wouldn't want a woodstove in a nylon tent, though I have hung a candle lantern from the roof of them, to bring the temp up from about -17 to just below zero (lasted only while the candle was still burning). You could always build a quinzee if there was snow.

We are still talking BOB's after all. A BOV would be different, and their folding stove looks interesting.

you're right about the overall weight, but everything weighs something, you need to prioritize and I would put this high on my list. Yes instead of 2ls of stove you can pack some else like extra clothes and socks or medicine for cold :). We are indeed talking BOB' here not talking about the regular backpacking trip. We are talking about the situation where you need to take your BOB and leave with nowhere to go. And camp with what you have for a long time.
Plus if you don't travel alone you can split the weight. Here is another stove that is lighter and cheaper, 1lb and 10oz and 245$ including shipping:

http://www.titaniumgoat.com/cstove.html

I'm a Tipi kind of guy.

Four pecker poles, taking with tops, 20' of paracord and I can have this up in less than 60 minutes. No stove, pipe, jacks or BS required ..... and warm as toast. Sitting on a pallet with the rest of my equipment ready to load into my BOV.

Here is the same one I have set up by the skating pond for the kids and their friends.

This seems to be weighing a little bit more then 2 lbs but I would love to learn how to build one someday

I agree you could put that into your tent to make it functional. What size tent would you be looking at? How would you manage the tent floor? Curious.

not sure yet, I wouldn't buy a regular tent for sure. Tents are for camping. I'm thinking something like a tippi tent or just a plain tarp with a collapsible pole, most probably no floor, for starter. ideally I would buy something like this:

https://kifaru.net/tipis.html

Please don't mention the price. I would rather like to talk in terms of value and affordability