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Buggie
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This is a question for all of the "shooters" out there. As a new firearm owner, I am eager to improve my shooting skills. But I'm not talking about just sitting down at a bench in an air conditioned shooting range and trying to hit bulls eyes from 50 yards out over and over again. What I am interested in are drills that I can do to improve my tactical skills with the firearm.

Perhaps some of our military or police members could discuss some of the drills they are tought in training on how to utilize their firearm to maximum efficiency. Here are my situation details:

I currently have 1 semi-auto rifle that I can take to the range. In the future I will also have a pistol or two. I go to the range at least once per week. I have practiced shooting the target at different distances from different shooting positions. I have learned to zero in my iron sights as well as optics. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge.

Basically, I'm looking for either a training program that someone could write up and post for me (or pm if you prefer) that would look something like the following:

Day 1: drill 1... Drill 2... Drill 3... Drill 4...
Day 2: drill 1... Drill 2... Drill 3... Drill 4... And so on.

If there are any good programs available on the internet, please feel free to post or pm them as well. I would like to teach myself as much as I can before I have to resort to paying professional instructors on the finer points of tactical shooting.

Thanks all, hope you can help.


See you all after.


   
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(@salix)
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I've never taken their course, but if you are interested in target and competitive shooting the IPSC Alberta offers 'black badge' courses.

ipscalberta.com/blackbadge.asp

I would also recommend the Alberta's hunter education course, which you can do online if you like.

aheia.com



   
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(@anonymous)
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There are many resources online for what you seek. That said, what you need to do most of all is to handle your weapon. STOP the snide comments RIGHT THERE !!!!!!!! 😮 What I am refering to of course is muscle memory. There are tasks related to every firearm and how it feels in your hands. Safety on and off, magazine changes, tactical loading, sight pictures, cheek weld, sighting to either right or left shoulder. Most of these can be practiced at home with no LIVE ammunition. Repetition is the key. Once you develop that or in conjunction you can take a few courses and develop movement and tactics. Paintball or airsoft is an excellent learning tool. The HUGE majority of us will never become weapons masters or realistcally become proficient in the military sense but we CAN become adequate. If you can, spend a little time in the "butts" at a range and get the feel for what it sounds like to have a bullet go over your head. It is very different to anything you may have heard in the movies. Another thing to develop along with this is a consistant load out. Whether it is loose ammunition, stripper clips or magazines you need to carry them in the same place and in the same position ALL THE TIME. Practice, practice PRACTICE.



   
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No open range for me.

If a guy doesn't have their own land to practice real live scenerio type shooting on....

I recommend one of these ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haiqFcIXTqs&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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Buggie
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I'm aware of the black badge training, and I do plan on certifying after I get a pistol.

Jab, any links for the stuff you were reffering to? You said there's lots of info out there, but everything I've seen follows along these lines: "great tactical training for police, military, blah blah blah... Only $399 for a weekend course".

I'm not interested in that stuff as of yet. Don't have the money to pay for them otherwise I would. What I'm searching for is something along the lines of a "firearm workout" that I can do on my own time at the range (until I get my own land crybaby lol. I agree with you there). Think of how somebody make a workout plan for their week at the gym. Looks something like this:

Day 1: flat bench 3x10. Pec flys 3x10. Lat pulldowns 3x10. Pushups 3x30...
Day 2: lat pulldowns 3x10. Bent over rows 3x10, military press 3x10... Etc etc

Now replace the physical exercises with firearm exercises, and I think you will understand what I am looking for. A training program I can do on my own, without shelling out hundreds and thousands of dollars to "professionals".


See you all after.


   
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(@anonymous)
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Here is a link to some basic drills. You can do them by going through the motions with drill ammunition, handling your firearm, taking sight pictures, taking shots, making magazine changes. You can do them in your basement. For actual shooting at targets you can do range time.
http://gunrights4usall.blogspot.ca/2009/11/eight-good-rifle-drills-borrowed-from.html



   
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Crybaby, a heads up on the YouTube video you suggested. A suppressor, sound suppressor, sound moderator or silencer are prohibited devices under the Criminal Code of Canada Part III. Under the Act “prohibited device” definitions; c) a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm.

Prohibited devices cannot be imported into Canada by civilians. Law enforcement treats this kind of violation of the Criminal Code very, very seriously. You definitely do not want to own one or try to import one.



   
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<in loud voice>

"Sorry ICRCC, I'm on my way to court to defend myself against the charge of publicly removing a bandage' ,,, and can't respond to you right now......I'm already going one kilometer per hour over the speed limit,.......just nearly missing a jay walker...... whilst typing this on my phone......"


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(@anonymous)
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Crybaby I was politely pointing out that your were violating the terms of use for this forum. We are about prepping. We are not about "recommending" that members violate the Criminal Code of Canada as you did in your post. The rule law is for everyone. Although you may not agree with all aspects of the law you cannot just pick and choose which parts you chose to adhere to.

The severity of the penalty generally matches the severity of the crime as view by our society. Going 1Km/h over the speed limit probably won't cost you anything. Going 15Km/h over the speed limit might cost you a few hundred dollars. A conviction for a prohibited device under the firearms section of the Canadian Criminal Code will cost you good name, your passport, employment opportunities for the rest of your life and much more grief. Your criminal record follows you.

We love your posts but please adhere to the terms of use and keep suggestions to those of a of a legal nature.



   
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Buggie
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Don't see anything wrong with stockpiling a few extra oil filters for your vehicle incase shtf. Might be hard to come across down the line. What you do with them after is up to you I guess 😀

Anyways, thanks a lot jab, that's more along the lines of what I was looking for. I should be able to make some sort of program out of that.


See you all after.


   
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(@joy29not)
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Okay I will ask the dumb questions again. I live in the middle of nowhere and my main reason in the past for having a gun is so it`ll make noise to scare away whatever wanders by. Since the critters walking by don`t seem to know the difference between the real thing and a cap gun (or firecracker) I don`t bother to dig out the key for the trigger-lock. I don`t expect the two-legged critters to be so dumb, so I expect to have to shoot off the real thing. (Planning to take classes in the near future)
But, my first plan if possible, or sensible to do so, is to fire a warning shot. Just to let trespassers know we are are armed and ready to shoot if pushed. So where does a silencer fit in?



   
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Unless you are trying to be covert a silencer does not fit in. It is illegal first off. Secondly it adds weight to the barrel of your firearm and WILL alter your handling characteristics in a negative way. A silencer does not silence. In the best case it alters to sound somewhat so whoever hears it MAY wonder exactly what it is. Most people with any idea of firearms will know regardless. If you wish to have reduced noise for hunting small game try subsonic .22 rounds. IF you are at the point where you feel you must fire a "warning shot"... don't. If you do so you give the adversary an opportunity to react and fight back. You DO NOT want to use a firearm as a warning tool. You can do that with signs.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Buggie,

Go to the store and buy at least 2 packages of snap caps in each calibre you have a weapon in. That might be .223 / 5.56mm, .308 / 7.62mm and 9mm. That is only an example, not sure what you got or need. Doesn't matter. The snap caps allow you to "dry" fire your weapon without damage to the firing pin. "Dry" firing a weapon without a snap cap put undo stress on the firing pin and at some point in the future the firing pin will break. Depending on the weapon that can be a major pain in the butt.

Using snap caps practice loading and unloading your magazines. Then practice loading and unloading the loaded magazines into your weapon. Once you can do it in the light of day, practice in a dark room or at night without the aid of any type of lights. In the military they train you the act of placing your loaded magazine on the weapon is the load. When you cycle the action and put a round into the chamber that is the "Ready". The unload is to remove the magazine, cycle the action twice to remove any round that may be in the chamber.

There are more things to learn of course. Cleaning. Field stripping your weapon - taking the weapon apart for cleaning. Learn how to field strip in the day and then again in the dark. Or blindfolded. Like JAB said learn your weapon system inside and out.

Just some suggestions,

Mountainman.



   
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(@joy29not)
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Yeah that's what I thought. Why are we sneaking around shooting people quietly if we're the ones with the food and supplies we have prepped?
And as for not firing warning shots (for humans) I know what you mean (shuts up the coyotes though). Guess in our present circumstances it is hard to think of being in a situation of shooting at other people (unless you are trained in that area-my training is in the opposite field) But, my girls know I am a force to be reckoned with if someone threatens my kids.
I am including corrugated plastic and signwriting paint in my prepping. (maybe we should start a thread on how to word those signs).



   
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