Well all across north america people are experiencing an Arctic cold snap and just how long this might last is up to debate. None the less, I found something kinda funny of tv. People flocking to store to pick up electric heaters. I was wondering how many people on here have wood stoves either hooked up and ready to go, or one on stand by that with no power can be hooked up in a hurry. I fall into the second category on this one. I have a large wood stove in the basement that I was rigged to go out the basement window and up to about 5 feet above my roof line. I believe this is of great benefit especially with the wood pile I can run all winter with. If the power goes out, I think I have only about a week or so at max on generator power, I have multiply oil lamps and spare wicks and a good amount of bulk oil. I have a good small shop with lots of coolers I can store all my freeze foods if needs be. The household has about 3 very warm blankets per person and good stockpile of food and water. Do you feel, if at 2am tomorrow morning the power went out would you be prepared enough to last over a month or two on just what you have on your property. Lets say the snow fell hard and covered everything, all roads closed.
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My primary and only heat is wood. I have back ups, though. Im in the category of one month cut off would be easy. Im glad you put this up. I wanted to do post for those that are not allowed a fire place due to insurance, rental properties, or apartments....But what you have done is exactly what I would recommend for this situation.
I would recommend 4 times the blankets, though
I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.
I have a wood stove hooked up but don't use it usually. If needed, screw the insurance companies.
Maybe only a week of wood though - it's for emergencies. That's enough time for roads to be cleared.
Plenty of LED lights, some solar powered. Couple of very old Canadian Forces down sleeping bags and 3 Blacks Icelandic sleeping bags (all -40 rated) if it came to that.
Couple of months of everything at the BOL.
Winter power outages, especially extended outages have always been a big concern for me and the one area I feel least prepared for.
Sadly, the home I own does not have a wood stove and its almost cost prohibitive to a working class smuck to put one in when you need to have contractors build a chimney. Although I do like the example above of a chimney system that goes out a window.
My tentative plan is propane heaters (with battery back up Carbon Monoxode detectors), and sleeping bags rated for -47 degrees.
A pellet stove with a battery back up system is a consideration but even then the back up batteries only last so long. I'm hoping its the one prepping area I won't have to put to the test, but this is Canada and a Winter outage due to storms are very likely as we tend to see every few years.
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Fireplace in living room sucks the warm air out so we are switching it to a wood stove chimney already there...would like another in basement. Have a kerosene heater with a few days supply, am purchasing a "Little Buddy" also
Isn't the little buddy about 2500BTU?
Same as a dual burner propane light. Better off having the light then.
Correction. The heater is 3800BTU
My primary and only heat is wood. I have back ups, though. Im in the category of one month cut off would be easy. Im glad you put this up. I wanted to do post for those that are not allowed a fire place due to insurance, rental properties, or apartments....But what you have done is exactly what I would recommend for this situation.
Yes, the only thing in terms of survival that I am really concerned about is keeping warm in the winter. Ultimately, I want to have a rural property that I heat with a cooking wood stove, but that is far off in the future and right now I rent a big old house in the city with no source of heat should the power go out for an extended period of time. I know there were people in the GTA that did not have their power back from the ice storm by the time the temperature plummeted a few days ago. I really thought hard about what I'd do in that situation and need to do some serious research. All I have right now is all going into one room, with loads of blankets, sweaters, layers upon layers, and candles and my oil lamps. Not sure that would do the trick with these extreme temps, although with average temps we'd likely be OK. Thoughts?
If you have electric heat, you could be in trouble.
What I set up for a friend during the holidays was a 4000w peak genset and an electric space heater(750/1500w).
The heater was rated to heat a 1800 sq.ft space and cost about $200 at crappy tire.
If you have a furnace, get a genset and figure out (with an electrician) how you can hook it up.
Sure, you'll need lots of fuel, but it's better than freezing.
My experience over the holidays was that a lot of gas stations had generators to be able to operate pumps.
Just keep cash on hand as the banking system for debit or credit cards may or may not work.
No doubt those people picking up electric heaters are worrying about pipes freezing.
I once had the power off for several days on the coldest days in the year. I remember trying to get home drunk in a dark city by bus. Water main burst or something whole downtown core was off. Next day we were all in the kitchen cranking the gas stove. We sat, talked, had a great time. It was kinda fun actually, us all hanging out like that.
In terms of heat?? Well I have an apartment, if the pipes freeze, it's the bastards fault. Yes my landlord is a penny pinching piece of @#$%. I have a hollow metal fire escape door with a no seal(in fact the bottom is corroded off) to keep the cold out. He wants to be cheap and not replace it I will crank the heat.
If the power went out during the cold... I don't know I got a miniature gas stove. Well to tell you the truth I would rig something up. I got a small window by the kitchen to vent out of. I would just rig the @#$% outta it.
I know I sometimes come across as an anti gun guy because of my posts ( It aint true. There is a rifle within reach ) but its about priorities. Food and Firewood before Fire Power. Gardens and Gas before Guns. Water and Weather protection before Weapon protection (and this is from a guy that has survived 2 attempts on his life).
So....Gas storage....A friend sent me this note. Ill shorten it to keep him anonymous.
" The day of the storm, a friend from Ottawa and myself decided to travel to Calais Maine and McAdam. After stopping in St George for lunch, power went off, and things got interesting. People coming from the highway into the gas station were surprised to find that they could not pump gas without power, and they did not have enough to continue. We went to St. Stephen, to find everything in darkness, so went on to McAdam, which was on half power, and no gas to pump because of it. I elected to divert back to Harvey, 30 minutes out of the way, as a precaution to take on extra fuel before going back through St. Stephen, and good thing- St. Stephen still in darkness, cars lined up at the gas station and abandoned because they had no other fuel close by. I crossed the border into Calais at just about the same time they lost power, and all the Canadians that crossed over looking for fuel turned back to Canada with empty tanks. I was there to pick up parcels, which I did in the dark, and was able to pay by virtue of the fact that I was carrying cash to pay for them. On the way back to {EDIT}, the only gas station with power was out of fuel. Back in {EDIT}, widespread outages (not us), Costco was selling out of Propane, many of the gas stations were out of gas, well, you get the picture."
I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.
Well besides gas problems in some areas during the outtages,
after the storm there has now been propane shortage in some areas of eastern ontario and quebec.
I have a propane generator , which I keep saying , eventually the fuel will run out and perhaps
the trucks will not be able to fill up before you run out and might be out of fuel for awhile.
( people I know said I was nuts when I said that , now we see it happening )
The same can happen with gas generators. You need gasoline for the geni and gasoline for the vehicle
to go buy more gasoline.
So I think we really need to think that we will need to conserve the fuel and when it is running
make the best of it and use the fuel and time to prepare for the hydro outage when our fuel has
completely run out.
There is alot to think of, in terms of heat and water in winter months and flooding that can happen.
For my sump pump , I have purchased a Guzzler manual hand pump which will be installed this coming
week on my sump pump system.
In the spring I am thinking of getting the Simple Pump manual pump added to my well.
I don't think solar generators would be able to get enough light in the winter to run the furnace or the sump pump.
And a pellet fireplace insert would need hydro to run the auger to dispense the pellets, let alone the fan. Does anyone know
if there is a manual hand crank battery option on these pellet stoves or fireplaces for use in power outtages ?
I want to look into these pellet inserts this spring, however the more I read , the more I think it would only work
to supplement heat when the power is on, and I will need to buy another propane tank to extend my time
with the propane generator.
It starts looking more and more like I might need a kerosene heater ?
Good move on the guzzler pump. I'll get another one myself at Princess Auto. I had the small one for sucking rain water out of large postholes before cement, but i think the larger one is a better move for capacity.
I also have a stainless steel Simple Pump, but i'm just keeping it for a friend unless they sell it to me.
To spread your options, have you considered making a passive air/solar collector outside a big window, or making a big window into one...for what it's worth on sunny days? as a dedicated insulated room with much heatsink to retain heat longer once heated? ....every bit helps.catch it and keep it.
Arctic cold snap ? I thought this was a normal winter in Alberta.. I have a wood stove that will get my house hotter then my wife will let me.. Wood is not a problem. Loots of fire wood.. and last year i picked up some large skids that had oak beams in them. Amazing for heat. i only use one block a night on the really cold nights. otherwise i use spruce or poplar. For the freezers i have sewn blankets that fit them well to keep them cold longer..
Yes, Blankets for the freezer( and fridge). never enough blankets. I tried something with polyurethane sheets last year but instantly got mold...and then forgot about it. I should get back to experimenting on that. One more use for second hand wool blankets
I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.
Yes, Blankets for the freezer( and fridge). never enough blankets. I tried something with polyurethane sheets last year but instantly got mold...and then forgot about it. I should get back to experimenting on that. One more use for second hand wool blankets
I was given a dozen of those thick quilted packing blankets.

