Peppercorn, perhaps you’ve already done it, but some research should be done on using plastic totes for diesel storage. Those totes are known to break down rather rapidly under UV from the sun. I don’t know what the effects of a petrochemical would do either. A 1000L diesel spill would be a significant financial lost, but a sizeable environmental one too.
If I didnt have the answer for fuel storage already here, back in the days when I burnt through money like a monkey with a blow torch, I had put away a couple sticks of Stainless steel pipe. 1/8th wall thickness, one foot diameter, and 20 or 22 feet long. Have them out by my junk metal pile under the snow, havnt found a use for them in ten years. I just need to weld end pieces onto the pipe and each stick will hold 650-700 liters (roughly a years worth of heating fuel in each stick). I can fire up the hoe and bury them...out of site out of mind. Being heavy wall stainless I will never have to worry about a leak. Cant do this now, but next year sometime, will keep filling barrels for now.
I didnt think of them for fuel storage at first as they are not shaped like a typical fuel tank but I dont care about the unconventional shape, they would make great tanks....never a worry about rust! I must be getting slow minded, I should have thought of these first.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Peppercorn, perhaps you’ve already done it, but some research should be done on using plastic totes for diesel storage. Those totes are known to break down rather rapidly under UV from the sun. I don’t know what the effects of a petrochemical would do either. A 1000L diesel spill would be a significant financial lost, but a sizeable environmental one too.
If I didnt have the answer for fuel storage already here, back in the days when I burnt through money like a monkey with a blow torch, I had put away a couple sticks of Stainless steel pipe. 1/8th wall thickness, one foot diameter, and 20 or 22 feet long. Have them out by my junk metal pile under the snow, havnt found a use for them in ten years. I just need to weld end pieces onto the pipe and each stick will hold 650-700 liters (roughly a years worth of heating fuel in each stick). I can fire up the hoe and bury them...out of site out of mind. Being heavy wall stainless I will never have to worry about a leak. Cant do this now, but next year sometime, will keep filling barrels for now.
I didnt think of them for fuel storage at first as they are not shaped like a typical fuel tank but I dont care about the unconventional shape, they would make great tanks....never a worry about rust! I must be getting slow minded, I should have thought of these first.
Buried sounds good too for safety measures. I’m not saying that you have a tendency to have things catching on fire around you, just that... well... let’s be safe. 😉
Peppercorn, perhaps you’ve already done it, but some research should be done on using plastic totes for diesel storage. Those totes are known to break down rather rapidly under UV from the sun. I don’t know what the effects of a petrochemical would do either. A 1000L diesel spill would be a significant financial lost, but a sizeable environmental one too.
If I didnt have the answer for fuel storage already here, back in the days when I burnt through money like a monkey with a blow torch, I had put away a couple sticks of Stainless steel pipe. 1/8th wall thickness, one foot diameter, and 20 or 22 feet long. Have them out by my junk metal pile under the snow, havnt found a use for them in ten years. I just need to weld end pieces onto the pipe and each stick will hold 650-700 liters (roughly a years worth of heating fuel in each stick). I can fire up the hoe and bury them...out of site out of mind. Being heavy wall stainless I will never have to worry about a leak. Cant do this now, but next year sometime, will keep filling barrels for now.
I didnt think of them for fuel storage at first as they are not shaped like a typical fuel tank but I dont care about the unconventional shape, they would make great tanks....never a worry about rust! I must be getting slow minded, I should have thought of these first.
Buried sounds good too for safety measures. I’m not saying that you have a tendency to have things catching on fire around you, just that... well... let’s be safe. 😉
I cant diss agree with that.
-20 C at my house right now, called the experiment off, for the moment and fired up my large wood stove down stairs. I had to. I have projects brewing upstairs and I cant let them drop below 16 C or I risk slowing down the fermentation process or even stopping it. So until some containers finish brewing I will postpone my experimenting with this heater. I will just turn them down to a low level and let the wood stove pound out the BTUs for both levels of the house at these low tempts.
By weight, honey is 33%, Apple juice 66% mixed together and the potential alcohol is 15 percent if left to fully ferment out, though some people like theirs with 6% sugar left so I pull some off for bottling at that point, and then bottle the rest when its in the 2-3 % sugar range left.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Just had a phone call from my friend in the city who had bought one of these heaters for his garage. He managed to get it fired up this weekend. He is impressed...very happy with the heat output. His garage is larger than mine and better insulated so I should hear back through the winter on how well it is working for him. He does think they shipped him a used unit, or maybe a returned unit. He ordered right from China, not likely he will send it back for a new one, likely will try to get some coin back from the seller.
EDIT; My friends brother seen his brothers heater heating the garage and now has ordered one.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Two more units have arrived. I love these ones. Performance will be the same but the body is all aluminium and the install kit comes with more and better parts. I am supposed to have these installed this weekend...... the weekend is half gone, I think I am going to disappoint someone, not the first time.
(224.00 per heater)
I think I have found the seller in China (or one of them) for this aluminium bodied heater. I now have one ordered for myself, and at a incredible price of 188.00 dollars including shipping.
If 4 months ago someone would have told me that I would be heating with a diesel heater, installing them, recommending them. I would have thought they were nuts.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
My diesel heaters have arrived, Plural. I actually ordered 3 for myself. At that price I could not go wrong. I will use them by next winter, I hope to have two hooked up for down stairs and two hooked up for upstairs, ridiculous redundancy I know.
I love the aluminium body on these units, even the powder coating is done well. And the end cap is polished aluminium.
Its now December and I have only had to light my wood stove 4 times so far this year.
Final numbers are in for the heating of that 12 x 16 foot building. they tell me that they have been leaving the heater set at 1.2hz that seems to keep the building in the 10 to 14 C range that is perfect for working in and its burning roughly 2 liters a day. It is a workshop though and the door is opened many times a day, plus often a window is open.
Edit: price of diesel has now gone up to 99 cents a liter. I wont store more for now, will wait for it to fall back down. 5 barrels put away, Since it would only take 4 to heat my home year round I must say I like having this alternative to wood, and it takes up so much less room than 4 to 5 cord of wood.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Mid December (11th), still only burnt the wood stove 4 times, I could say 5 times but the 5th was really just to burn garbage not because I needed heat. Last 10 or so days have been unbelievable for December, sometimes hitting +10 c, the snow melting everywhere. Still just heating with this single diesel heater. When back in I think October when we hit -15 or so temps I burnt 6.5 ish liters a day (when it stayed at -15 all day). With these warm temps its 3-3.5 sometimes 4. I think that is a very reasonable amount. Neither the Garage heater or the one in the house has been shut of since I installed them, I plan to use them continuously through this winter to wring out any issues with them.
I think I am coming up on 6 weeks using that on demand water heater and the 30 pound propane tank feels like it is still 3/4 full. What I should have done was set the propane tank on a scale and then I could see how much propane I am using.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Odd situation. I was thinking that I am getting pretty experienced with these things, and the different versions, but looks like a friend of mine just got a odd ball unit. After I told him how to get into the over ride programing, he tells me that he can set the high end all the way up to 8 pump pulses per second, 8!. I have not encountered any unit that can go past 5.5 pumps per second and the heat at that setting is scary. He says the heat is absolutely scalding blasting out of the unit.
I am going to have to see this for myself so looks like I will be heading up to Edmonton this week. May as well combine the trip with a run to costco.
If true I will order one like his, I can think of industrial uses for a heater like that. Maybe a automated paint stripper machine.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
I was able to get a look at that unit and it does indeed go up to 8 pulses per second, but a lot of heat is going out the exhaust, efficiency must be pretty low as I dont think the heat exchanger surface is large enough for the fuel consumption at that setting. He doesnt have to ever set it that high though. It was -15 outside, and in his garage the heater was at a setting of 1.6 pulses per second, and if I would have been in short sleeves I would have been comfortable.
I am getting a rough rule of thumb for these things, I feel confident saying that heating a building type structure of roughly 400 square feet down to -20 C to short sleeve temperatures is very much doable.
While visiting I was gifted A box of tools, (used), of great interest to me was this fluid transfer pump, like new condition.
I have one of those hand crank pumps that you place on top of a barrel, but this battery driven pump will be so use full for moving my diesel storage for these heaters around, and so much faster than my hand crank pump. Complete with a new unused battery. They claim 8 gallons per minute with this thing, I cant hand crank 4, or maybe just but not steady thats for sure.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Appreciate that friend, those are some nice gifts.
Coming up on mid January and I have not even burnt a half chord of wood. I am burning wood right now but its not because I need to, rather I have to get it off the trailer that it is on. Downstairs heater is still running all tickity boo, not a problem, same with the garage one. I have no memory of a winter as mild as this one, up to 0 C or above most days. Grass in the yard.
Feed back from others tells me that the efficiency of the heater starts falling once you go above 3.8 hz. So if you need to run one above that setting for long periods you might be better off running two heaters. I know of one unit being put into a 30 X 30 shop with a 10 foot ceiling. Its not to heat the building as such, just to keep the temp above 0 so paint wont freeze.
I was offered a bunch of fluids from a guy who has to move and dosnt want to take the stuff with him. 20 liter containers of old gas, brake fluid, transmission fluid, jug after jug of oil, all kinds.I figure close to 100 liters in all. I will mix it with a equal amount of diesel and burn it up in my garage heater and see how it performs. I will mix it with my 88 cents per liter diesel I put away and this should give me 200 liters of fuel to burn at a 44 cent per liter cost.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Another heater on the way, I will do another container build and will want one of these heaters for it. Finding better price each time. 158.88 this time. Burning up a mixed assortment of fluids in the garage heater right now, unit is working perfect.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
One more heater just ordered. Thats it, absolutely no more. I have enough for two life times now. Well maybe more but only if its for resale.
Here is a link to the seller with the model I like, it has the right controller, and the all aluminum case. Ships from Vancouver.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/254660513959
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Just got one to install in my van!
Just got one to install in my van!
Report back what you think of it.
For this weekend I filled the garage heater with a mix of 75% diesel, and 25 % very old gas that was given to me. Its been running just fine all day.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.