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(@carbon04)
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It's coming and this could be the defining war depending on how China/ Russia react. A short time ago Netenyahu (spelling?) visits with the President of the US, then within a week he's receiving a visit from the British PM. Past couple of days they've sent an extra 4 anti mine ships into the region, the British have mobilized as well into the area with anti mine ships, and the USS Enterprise is enroute into the area, even though it is not assigned to the fifth fleet.

Now I don't think the US or UK have any intention of becoming involved in any tactical way other then keeping the straight of Hormuz open for sea faring traffic (oil), however, I don't think the Israeles have the means to complete the task they believe is at hand. Netenyahu's visit was to tell Obama he has an 8 - 6 Cabinet vote in favour of military action against Iran and with or without US assistance he's going to go ahead anyway.

Iran is far from weak, and has a defensive system that equals that of most countries, if not surpases them. They obtained missles from the Russian back in the 80's that cannot only reach the Enterprise from 300 miles away will sink it. If this happens, and its becoming clearer with every passing day an altercation is coming, oil prices are going to shoot through the roof, and without a full ground invasion they will never accomplish their 'goals' of taking Iran's nuclear 'cards' off the table.

Thoughts?


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susannah755
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Yeah ....oh sh**


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(@carbon04)
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hey, its only a view...could be wrong, but all indication are military action.


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Yes, but I think you're on the right track. There have been off-the-cuff remarks that indicate that the "powers that be" already know that its coming (not that anyone has come out openly and said it...but!!!) A lot of our military are still over in that area ... maybe that's why they're still there?


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(@carbon04)
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this was well hidden:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

means the US Goverment can seize anything in a time of war...he signed it on March 16th!!!


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(@carbon04)
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this was well hidden:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

means the US Goverment can seize anything in a time of war...he signed it on March 16th!!!

Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.


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Did you see this?
http://en.trend.az/regions/iran/2004927.html
This isn't going to help at all!


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(@carbon04)
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yeah, i knew about the SWIFT issue...theres usually ways around that...payment in gold etc, however, this could be the catalyst and the final straw for Iran. perhaps the Americans and British are just getting ready for a reaction from Iran. like the school yard bully who keeps proding the little kid in the chest, sooner or later frustration going to overtake fear and that little kid will take a swing...maybe the US are just getting ready to duck when Iran start swinging.


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...and sometimes the little kid lands a lucky punch and gives the bully a bloody nose!



   
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carbon04 said: "...payment in gold ..."

Maybe THAT is the point, to get them to voluntarily hand over their gold to someone easier to steal it from.



   
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(@carbon04)
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...and sometimes the little kid lands a lucky punch and gives the bully a bloody nose!

thing is there not the little kid in the room, by far. i don't even think they'll fight in the Straight. they'll take it to the 5th fleet in Bahrain. their missles can reach Bahrain from mainland Iran...nobody wins on this one...


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(@carbon04)
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carbon04 said: "...payment in gold ..."

Maybe THAT is the point, to get them to voluntarily hand over their gold to someone easier to steal it from.

nope, Iranians don't particularly care....they have one of the largest, easily accesible 'black gold' reserve in the world. its not about the US getting their gold, it's about Iran not trading oil in US dollars. see what happens to the dollar the first day a large country trades for oil in something other than the dollar...it will tank and so will the economy.


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(@anonymous)
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agree carbono4, and maybe Israel can get the hell out of the west bank.



   
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(@badjoke)
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Not sure if this is true, but I remember hearing somewhere they are going to wait until just before the next american election ( November i think? ) before they let off thier false flag attack and blame it on Iran. Apparently no american president has ever lost an election whilst there is a major war going on and they want to keep Obama because he's a great little puppet for them.


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(@marlprepper)
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this is definetly a war that is most likely inevitable unless US stop what they are doing. russia and china with no doubt will defeat the united states preppers will have trouble if USA is invaded especially if they are shooting people that come on their land. the best way to survive is probably for anyone being invaded to get to another country. i am sad about what will happen because i know britan will force australia/NZ to join the war on the wrong side :/


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