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Chance/Probability of EMP in Calgary

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(@dphoenix)
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Hi Everyone;

I'm from Calgary and new to prepping and this discussion group. So far though I have learnt quite a bit and am continuing to learn...lots of great knowledge on here for sure.

So part of my prepping and knowledge is making sure that I have the right vehicle. I've got a 2005 Tacoma with winch etc. that is great for on road and off should I need to Get Out of Dodge. However I started thinking of an EMP and how it probably will disable my truck (along with everyone else's) should one occur.
So far my prepping has been on the most likely situations and this leads me to my question to this group; in your opinion how probable is it that Calgary would get affected by an EMP? Is this a scenario that I should have high on my list to prepare for?

I know that you can get an EMP from either a massive solar flare, nuclear detonation in the air or possible EMP weapon. My belief is that these are all very low possibilities with the exception of the Solar flare and in which case we would probably get enough warning that I could leave the city to a BOL before the EMP hits (I don't see Calgary or it's environs as being a big strategic location that would warrant an EMP weapon strike or being in the close enough vicinity of nuclear strike that would cause an EMP).

What are your thoughts and suggestions? Thanks guys!



   
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(@denob)
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From a vehicular point of view, you can scratch a solar flare off the list of concerns as they simply do not produce the E1 EMP required to disable a vehicle...the power grid, however, is a different story...so I would concentrate on fuel storage (and fuel efficiency).
Remember the line ups in New Jersey after Sandy passed by?

As for EMPs of the nuclear type, I would refer you to this page, where you can judge the requirement for concern for yourself.

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/vehicles.html

My point of view is this...the likelyhood of this type of event is so low that it is so far down on my list that I will likely never get to it.
Just in case though, I do believe in Cernunnos5's alternate cargo transportation system...I have bikes and will be getting to work on some trailers soon.

(photo uploaded by C5 and used with thanks for educational purposes only)



   
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(@dphoenix)
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Thanks Denob!

This is what I suspected regarding the nuclear EMP. I've now started this prepping journey of mine and at first I was all overwhelmed with the info that you get out there but soon started to realize that it is all location dependent and you have to prioritize. I have placed EMP on the bottom of my list of threats/situations to worry about. Thanks again for replying and the tip on the fuel and bike.



   
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cernunnos5
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Thanks. You said it all, Denob. The Dutch kick our butts on this one. I think they have more bikes than people and far better designed.
Gas storage, gas storage, gas storage........Gas storage! (and rotation, rotation, rotation)....and wood stoves.

Calgary, specifically, has a FANTASTIC bike path system. It can easily get you out of town and the terrain is fantastically flat. Perfect for biking or cross country skiing. There is nowhere to go though.


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cernunnos5
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A few extra photos from Holland. Notice the lack of class distinction at your average light. This isn't a "Loser Curser".
Also the soccer mom mini van....and parking problems...


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(@jfamily)
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Hello and welcome.

Do a search Dick Cheney EMP. The former vice president and secretary of defense believes an EMP is the greatest threat the US is facing.

However whether or not an EMP attack would permanently disable vehicles is another big question. The limited testing to date suggests the expected energy would create havoc with many vehicles but not rendered every vehicle with an ecu permanently inoperable.

I believe any impacts from an attack would simply be gravy for terroists as the target, like others have mentioned would most likely be the grid.

While I built a BOV without the electronics I would agree the better investment would be fuel for whatever vehicle
you have.

The tacoma is an exceptional vehicle and if you wanted a little security in this regards I would suggest buying the 2-3 key modules that would be effected and keep them in a small faraday cage. You would also need a toyota mechanic to show you the backyard method for a basic reflash.

I no longer prep for any specific scenario but we all have something that drives us. The reality is no one really knows which, if any, of the potential threats will come knocking so explore and have fun.



   
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cernunnos5
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A fist full of photos


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(@duffmanprepper)
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I started building recumbent bikes as a hobby for me and the family and trailers to hull the kids in one and supplies in the other


Preparedness is like a condom , I've rather have it and not need it, rather than need it and not have it


   
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(@dphoenix)
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Great advice on the bikes and I did have that as an alternate means of transportation, particularly those fat tracks although I have to do more research.



   
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(@perfesser)
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When my prepping gets into the realm of alien invasions I'll take some precautions for an EMP, not before.



   
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(@anonymous)
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I started building recumbent bikes as a hobby for me and the family and trailers to hull the kids in one and supplies in the other

I've considered doing the same as I seem to have a pile of chromealloy tubing to use up somewhere. I've found various plans on the web similar to yours and wondered which design was the best to go with. I always thought that the lower the C.O.G. the better, but likely the more intimidating cars would appear to be too as they fly past.

This is likely more the bike I could see myself building, just for the cool factor 😆 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61g7u3kUdcU



   
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peppercorn
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Bikes are a great way to get around, decades back I rode the river valley trail system in Edmonton. I could get from Rundle park(space science center) to downtown Edmonton faster than any car.
They still have a great trail system I hear.
I too have been thinking of Recumbents but 3 wheel Delta and Tadpole style, and full Velomobiles with E assist. I have put together a collection of bikes in storage, one thing I notice is all the new bikes I suspect are from China, and with everyone of them the rubber starts breaking down, and within 3 to 4 years they start to crack apart, thats the bikes I have in the yard outside, I have others 20 years old and the rubber is fine. I suspect if you want a good quallity tire you may have to order one from another source. I have been meaning to investigate this more but to many irons in the fire right now. Am I the only one who suspects the quallity of the rubber is poor now? has anyone else found it so?

I drove by a fellow somewhere south of Lamont last summer. He was pedaling a 3 wheel recumbent. I pulled over and when he caught up I had a chat with him about his recumbent. He bought it at a place called renu cycle in Leduc. It was called a ICE brand and I have forgot the model. He goes cross country in it and said it was easy to get used to. He was 50, 55 or so and said getting around with it was easy and fun. Just something to consider for alternate travel. He did say he stuck to roads with wide shoulders and never had a problem with other vehicles.


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