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Ignorance, a renuable resource you can count on

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peppercorn
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I will say it, Im ignorant, born that way...so were you, so is everyone, Im not saying it in a bad way rather just in a factual manner.
History is one endless circle of the same damn thing over and over, you would think we would learn wouldnt you? and we do to a point, a generation, two, if we are lucky maybe 3 tops. and around we can go again.Con men count on it, oh not the same target with the same con rather just another target that hasnt fallen for the con. you can raise a child, tell him what to do, show him what to do but many of the misstakes he makes he will just have to learn from experience.
Experience is what teaches us not history, oh you can try cramming history in but it doesnt stick, and it doesnt matter as history was and we are as likely to draw the wrong conclusion from it as the right one, make him watch the u tube vid, it doesnt stick, mistakes stick, pain sticks loss sticks. Burn someones hand once and they will know what fire can do and not forget it.They are no longer ignorant of its potential, and ofcourse having done that that your employable at Gitmo.
A pyramid scheme goes around and everyone gets taken, for a while no one can be had by that con, but guess what? up comes another generation ignorant as can be,that hasnt fallen for the con, isnt looking behind the curtain,hasnt lost money and thinks hey this sounds good...Same with political systems, political ideas, hang on, around we go again...rideing the ignorant train through history is our collective destiny, but on a individual level you can mitigate the effects of your own ignorance, once you understand its some measure in your own hands, Experience,loss and misstakes are what you need and you need them early, and lots of them., and keepem comming. You will not develop any crittical thinking skills until you have done and screwed up lots of things. I am a major F@#%k up, and I like the company of the same. I have learnt next to nothing sitting in front of the computer, and I dont know anyone who does. Tatts are for those who dont have scars,You dont have a lot of time to ramp up your abilities, your mainspring is winding down the moment your born, The prognosis is terminal, are you going to waste time sitting in front of this thing? You need to get moving.

My point is time is valuable...if your spending it on the net you better be getting acurate info, cause your not getting this time back, And if some grass bowl is wasting your time, call the stick on it. You will be fed BS until you say no more..and there is a line up waiting to feed it to you.
My point is your ignorant,you will only reduce that by doing things and hope like hell you screw up so you get to try again.
You only develop problem solving skills by doing things. Are you watching vids all day? for 90% of you it sure looks does look like it, and listening to those with 50 billion posts to their name, dont get me wrong there can be (few) some with high post counts that provide acurate hard info but I bet they can be counted on a finger or two. I will get back to this point specifically in another post, sure to set off blood pressure monitors in some.
And why do I complain about vids, well ITS ALL BS ALL THE TIME, and thats what the net has mostly become, and my next post if im not punted will be why ITS ALL BS ALL THE TIME on the net. One or two more post and I should get to the point, if I can remember it.
I used the word Prancing in a sentance the other day...first time ever!


Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.


   
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AMEN brother prancing and pompous worked so well together though. LOL



   
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I like the title....and I like the approach to enhancing the subject content. You use various examples to express your point of view. I get the fact that we tend to learn better by experience more than we do from reading about it instead. We as humans face this folly every day and it is too bad that we often have to repeat past mistakes to only draw the same conclusions someone else wrote about earlier. But you then go into the determination that we cannot learn from anothers experience and that we all therefore must accept that practical experience is the only way the attain most true knowledge on any given subject.

And this is where the basis of your argument loses strength. Logic dictates that if the above were completely true, we humans wouldn't have advanced to the point were are at today. Every doctor would have to learn for himself how to perform a bypass. Every man would have to at least witness a rattlesnake strike to conclude it's a dangerous creature. Yes, the world can be a dangerous place for those who determine that knowledge can only be attained from life experiences. Yet you yourself must have read and absorbed much from others writings, to know how to express your thoughts so well as to guide others down your path of deductive reasoning.

I'm sure that I easily meet your example of spending too much time on the computer as I sometimes stare at one probably 70% of my waking hours, since I service them for others these days. This gives me alot of "cruise time" while waiting for automation to get to the next progressive stage and this allows me to multitask at other interests I have. One of these is psychology which often leads into philosophy and then to history... of which I often forget most as I cram for the final test.....life!

And so I come a subject just covered in an audio book I listened to lately while traveling to a customers job named "Behavioral Scripting". It includes most if not all of the examples you gave to a certain degree and I will now try to explain better. I use a story given of an artist painting a portrait while drinking a coffee. He is repeating an action that his body does pretty much on a reflex basis while focusing on his work. He adds paint to areas and then dips the brush into a cleaner for the next color. Somewhere he mixes up and dips the brush into the coffee instead and catches his error as he was about to drink the glass of thinner. Many viewers likely even saw this folly coming as we too have all made similar mistakes due to behavioral scripting.

Now this same issue has often been both a blessing or folly, depending on the circumstance. We wish to impose this scripting when firing a weapon for example as we attempt to drill this reflexive action into our psyche so we react automatically. A police officer /instructor trained himself to instantaneously seize a drawn weapon from an attacker at the instant they pointed it. after doing so, he would then return the weapon and attempt to do it again. When a situation finally arose for him to use this tactic in real life, he automatically disarmed the attacker, but then automatically returned the weapon to him without thinking. Luckily his partner shot the attacker.

Seems that many of us perform this same defensive measure when we hear mention that our country is participating in unethical acts abroad. We grew up defending our nation's actions whenever someone criticized as that is what was taught to us by our parents. So we repeat this action automatically, and often without truly considering other possibilities. It is upon this same predicted response that much of the atrocities ignored today are being perpetrated.

A famous saying goes "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". While others continually challenge this concept along with Mark Twain who famously said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Therefore he is suggesting it may not be the exact scenario next time round, but still similar in concept. The answer to our own behavioral scripting is ultimately up to each of us to challenge these built in preconceptions, if we are to escape it's clutches when determining our stand on today's world issues.



   
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peppercorn
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I love that story,would love to have seen the look on both their faces. Not making a arguement against history as a learning example all for it, rather encouraging experience as that developes the skill set to evaluate history, to evaluate anything...critical thinking skills, cause you know a lot of what we are taught is bs. I think you know its mostly bs, and you know I was not talking about factual, verifiable, route learning as in medical practices..you know that...understand you have the time to be on the net..a second langauge is good..Rossetastone or some such thing over the net, sign langauge is perfect over the net, knot tying very handy, I will get to whats not...and why..and what did you do with those solar cell, have you tried to solder them together yet? I am assumming they are tabbed,What flux are you using and what temperature? may be the odd vid helpful if you havent done it before 😯 but sounds like you know how to solder. What voltage are you building for mpv? what current?


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I think you too would enjoy the book . It is called EVERYDAY SURVIVAL, Why Smart people do Stupid Things! and can be found in audio format here http://kickass.to/everyday-survival-why-smart-people-do-stupid-things-t4040538.html

No, those solar panels sit in a tidy pile patiently awaiting my attention along with many other projects that I have started. Their progress demands the room to create and complete them as they are very fragile in any other state other than their presently stored state. My rocket stoves have had some progress too, but await the locating of refractory cement. Even my custom Harley progresses slowly due to funding. My mind often wanders to all things of interest that I can do economically as watching my old business fail is not so enjoyable an aspect these days.

I have started an excel sheet regarding solar panels and all the factoring being hopefully made simpler for others along the way. It is far from done though and I don't even get feedback on those which I have posted to know if my endeavors are found useful by others. Seems as good a time as any to once again present those which I have already written for others as I waste those precious moments you mentioned earlier.

- Check out my Food Stores program here http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4917
- or my Med Kit program here http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=5070
- or even how to choose your guns http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=5049

Please share your thoughts about it and constructive criticism is always welcome. I try to share knowledge and not just be another complaining of that which is obvious to all. Seems I have lost interest in writing these programs as of late as it appears that many don't even seem inspired enough to download them and see what they just got for free! I've even wondered if the downloads would improve if I instead asked money for them as free doesn't seem to merit much interest either. Maybe it's just the belief that many presume we won't have computers to use in the near future...who knows!



   
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peppercorn
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I had read parts of somethings, I have to read more, and will respond more fully here or in PM but cant now as I am just to short on time, but will...


Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.


   
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