You joined in 2012, you only have 13 posts, you are directing people to a troll site and you want people to tell you what they have?

NO!

Anyone who fills out that survey should make an appointment to have the wool sheered off their back.

I'm not sure why you would need this information as preppers we can just co pair our own lists from a few years ago and see if we are improving. Which is a forever goal but the thing is your asking for people towns and stuff if you want to help make is so they can just put a name just my two bits but I think your trying to help just need to not ask for so much maybe just ask people if they would mind telling what they had 2-3 years ago and if they have improved or not done anything

It's completely voluntary... I've not been very active on the forum I admit, but you can easily check my posts and the replies from the original survey. No ill intent at all... participate or not.

This business about it being a troll site is ridiculous. Quietman, you need to seriously set aside your paranoia and do some research before you cry foul. I've no time for ignorance... check the previous posts and replies from two years ago... as well as the link for the survey. It's the same and it's legit and the results were posted then as they will be this time around. Be sure you have at least an inkling of the subject matter before spouting cries of 'villainy and witchcraft' Quietman... you'll just embarrass and discredit yourself.

Duffmanprepper, I'm not certain why you are critical, your response to the original survey was on November 15, 2012 11:03pm where you indicated (still there for all to see) "Wow I must say this survey really opened my eyes as to what I need to work on more thanks"... I misinterpreted your response and assumed you found some value in the post. My apologies. I was only trying to help raise more awareness... nothing sinister here guys... wow!

Sorry if you guys are offended and no longer see value in this.

Draymen

I guess for me was then it opened my eyes to make a list of what I had and needed but it is strange that you haven't had a lot of activity then out of no where just start this to me it's not being paranoid but I think you shouldn't of had more activity before doing this plus I have Kraft disease and can't Remember a frickin thing let alone something from 3 years ago I can't even remember what I had for breakfast lol

I’m not paranoid, neither am I ignorant. I don’t delve in witchcraft but I do call out if I see foul.

“freeonlinesurvey.com” may very well be a legitimate site offering their services, but they contract third party service providers to collect, capture and remember certain information. This information is not to be sold, traded or be otherwise transferred, except to these third parties that help operate the site. In other words any information inputted can end up at the site of the “Trusted third party” which can then do what they please with it.

Your survey, even though it would seem is well intended, should be conducted as a thread on this site and therefore be intended to stay on this site.

I did my research before I yelled at you.

Thanks for the feedback Quietman. You input as always is in the very least interesting. I'm sure everyone with a modicum of internet knowledge would agree that that website is no more capable of capturing information (outside of survey details) than this forum. That means there is an equal chance that any website can provide unsolicited information (IP address) and that exercising caution on every website is prudent as some are more at risk. Because you don't understand something, that does not make it malevolent... simply put.

I too did my research before subscribing to that service... yes subscribing, I am a registered customer and before I hand money to anyone, I too do my research. For no other reason than to share the result, I subscribed as that is the only way to gain full access to the site features which includes data exporting in PDF, HTML or other formats which make it convenient for posting to forums such as this that accept HTML code. Again, at my expense I'm offering this as a service to the community... Do not be upset by the fact that I am capable of significantly more contributions than you (adding value rather than criticism) in significantly less posts as you made mention before.

Again, I question your research ability, or you would have known immediately the same survey from the same provider was posted on the same forum over two years ago and was well received. Broad and sweeping statements such as "they contract third party service providers to collect, capture and remember certain information" is not only vague and fear-based but unsubstantiated. Just a word of caution, if you're trying to sway an audience, use more credible statements like "several reports, most recently an article in infosecurity magazine reported that...." and definitely stay away from catch-all identifiers such as "they" and "them"... because we all know exactly who "they" are... right?

We can go back and forth or you can recant your ridiculousness and move on to another thread that offends you.

A lot of effort went into that survey... just ignore it and move on if it doesn't interest you. If others feel there is a risk in responding, I urge them not to respond... let them make that decision for themselves. If you want to play Paul Revere, ensure your hue and cry has substance.

Regards,

Draymen

Ps. You're certainly helping to drive up my posts now - does that mean you'll take me more seriously?

Ding Ding.....Well regarding surveys or anything on the internet I always throw out BS info if they ask for data relating to age, marital statas, income, location and such... I am only questioning the validity of the data you will get.
Would you not have to have the same people answer your questions in order to see if they have become more capable over the time frame of the two surveys?
Or are you only trying to get a aggregate type sample to see a general drift in time? Though again I question its accuracy.inquiring minds want to know, and should it not be accessable to members only, as anybody driving by in internet land can fire off a response?
I never consider post counts as a indicator of credibility on anything, most often the two are inversely proportional. Rather is the post just passing gas, or does it contain original usefull content.
Now back to it...no biteing, don't put a eye out...DING

It's definitely more of an aggregate sample. Due to the anonymous nature of the survey, I would have no way of inviting only the previous respondents to participate again. I'm trying to accomplish two things: A) compare, in general, the preparedness level today with those 3 years ago, and in particular just before December 2012 to gauge if there's been a decline, increase or stagnant impact on preparations and B) to continue to bring awareness to those who may have gaps in their preps and want a tool to help identify.

The accuracy is wholly dependent on the information provided; garbage in/garbage out. I can't control that... I would hope on this forum that there are (with some exceptions) a majority of mature individuals likewise seeking to understand the relationship of their prepping efforts with the rest of the community as well as understand any trends, gaps or new focus areas. The results of course could show an indication of an overall sense of urgency, improved/diminished understanding of threats, or better/worse means to mitigate or all the above and so on...

I have to add that the atmosphere of this forum has certainly changed in three years. It would seem some victimization must have occurred for the cloistered way in which people conduct themselves, if only slightly, it is noticeable. Despite the trepidious reactions to the notion of a survey, I still have received several responses and no complaints of information farming. Of which I note, in my exchanges with Quietman, I learned more personal information about him from reviewing his profile information and reading his past posts than I could EVER hope to get from that survey... I'm guessing he won't be participating here anymore with the knowledge that his identity is more at risk on this forum... primarily due to information he volunteered in posts and on his profile, now preserved in the codex of the forum archives...

In any event, feel free to review the survey post and results from 3 years ago, still available in the forum... search for 'survey' and 'draymen' if you're at all interested.

I had intended on doing a new follow-up survey to determine what SHTF events were first and foremost on people's minds these days and what they felt would be the catalyst to an upheaval; however, in light of the criticism, it would seem that many on this forum are unaccustomed and uncomfortable with that kind of thing. I'll take that offline, at least I'll save a buck or two next month by cancelling my subscription to that survey website.

Draymen

--Checks under the bridge for more Trolls--

I would suggest that knowing if the person is rural or urban would be of value and likely generate a very different profile of capability between the two.

Now that is good constructive feedback I can digest well! Agreed, I will add that within 24 hours.

Thanks!

Hey there,

Just a couple points on the survey. Just critiquing it...not looking to jab anyone. lol

-Asking finite questions like amount of water, food, etc. and for how long are good questions because the calculations are pretty constant. I can say 1 month, 2 month, etc.

-Asking questions like "rate my personal preparedness" is very subjective. You may get skewered results because it depends not on the actual preparedness of a person, but his/her perception. I may think I'm ready to weather out anything....Another person may look at my plan and say "woah, you are way underprepared for even the most basic emergency." They could have more knowledge or experience to make that statement. I may not realize I'm lacking in certain areas but sitting on my laurels think I'm in good condition.

-A bit confusing on questions re: vehicles where bikes could be used for mobile lodging, etc.

As for that, I reviewed the survey and agree its a good tool to point out ideas to better prepare.

Preparedness community seems to have an environment of being very careful giving out to much information. On the internet its tough to argue that as internet safety is drilled into all of us from a young age now. I admit the first few questions asking where I lived, etc. raised my eyebrow a bit. Other surveys will ask whether your rurual, urban, etc. or ask for a vague geographic location at most. That might be where a bit of push back came on the survey.

Again, a good learning tool for me.

Since we are talking about surveys, this one is kinda fun. 🙂

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/doomsday-preppers/interactives/how-prepped-are-you1/

Draymen,

I believe you that you have genuine good motives for your survey and I'll give it a shot when I get to sit down for a while.

As for the previous resentment expressed, I have to somewhat agree that people tend to respond better to familiar faces than to essentially strangers. Your request came in a bit like an unsolicited telemarketer calling during dinner time for a survey. Some take the time to answer, others politely decline, and others feel they have to give the caller a piece of their mind.

I'm sure you have a lot to contribute to this community beyond the survey and results - a fair contribution in itself indeed, but limited in time/space. As a familiar face, you would surely garner more support when the time comes for a follow up in a few years.

You've got stars on some of the REQUIRED things to fill in .

Such as the Participant Data area. Many people will find this giving out too much info
on themselves. I don't see that this info is needed in the first section.

Why do you need to know about city ? Many people will fill in a bogus city.
you might get better results by asking for province and also not making
these fields mandatory