OK, I went a little overboard, but when so many have chastised this man when all he tries to do is protect the future ...well. Its not that he doesn’t want adults, its just that there is room for 400 in his shelter. (and in his words, just a shelter not a place to live.) Of the 400 hundred hes hoping that 3/4 will be in the ages of 16 and below, Why, well have you ever tried to teach adults. As we have seen here 2/3 of them are KNOWITALLS. He 74 years of age and has been fighting a silent war for 40 years, so give the man some leeway.
Ark Two Shelter,
http://lifewise.canoe.ca/Living/2008/05/16/5620581.html (short version)
http://www.radmeters4u.com/beach.htm (very long version, his home page)
"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."
There are several places in Edmonton where you can buy them. I seen them on Kijiji.
There is an episode of Doomsday Preppers on Youtube where this guy has built a compound out of sea cans. I lived in one for a tour in Afghanistan(not one of the reinforced ones either) and they can be quite comfy. However when it comes to defenses, you have to realize that the steel isn't very think. On the Doomsday Preppers episode, the guy shot at his sea can with a .22, which stood up to the impact of the round. However, when SHTF, I think people that will be trying to take stuff from other people will most likely have .223 or 7.62(.308). So I found that part kind of misleading if people are unaware of how thick the sea can walls are.
I have done quite a bit of research on buying sea cans as well. They are a great starting platform for building a bunker with prepping in mind. There is actually a sea can village built on CFB Edmonton that we used for training getting ready to go to Afghanistan. Unfortunitely the war has raised the cost of sea cans substantially. Ten years ago you could by sea cans for under $1000. Now they go from $2500 to around $6000. Depends on the shape of them.
Hope some of this info helps.
Yeah, and the episode where he shot the container was on one of the four corners with realllllly thick steel.
http://www.elitebuildings.com/ for those interested in ideas.
http://www.elitebuildings.com/products-services/container-solutions/container-floor-plans
We also had "Up Armoured" sea cans in Afghanistan. They are supposed to be able to withstand a 7.62 round. As to where to get them, I have no idea. I think they just left them there for when the American's took over our camps.
if its above ground, then its harder to get into, if its under ground then who cares who shooting what, as long as its not in the shelter. 
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Lots of good info here. I used to haul those seacans to Edmonton daily; they will take a LOT of abuse! Yes, they're trickier to move around by yourself, but a small tractor or 4x4 pickup and a few logs or telephone poles is all you need to place it once it's dropped off. Pricing on them is all over the place, I don't know that I would pay $6000+ for one, but consider the alternatives- $5000 gets you a stud-frame garage package from Totem, for example. But it's all wood, you still have to put it together, and it's not that much bigger than a sea can.
Those sea cans are built to take a LOT of weight- they stack them in the yards up to about 5 high IIRC, higher on the dockyards in port. The sides are strong as all get out and even an older one is likely to be mouseproof (well, resistant anyway). Yes, if you're going to bury it, shore up the roof- I'd be inclined to run I-beams across on top of it from the outside to take advantage of the sidewall strength, then pour a concrete slab- doesn't have to be thick, just enough to add that layer of resistance, and between the I-beams and heavy mesh or rebar in the concrete, no worries of caving in the roof.
Rather than digging a hole and dropping it in, has anyone considered partially burying one in a side hill, or just pushing dirt around/over it to make an artificial hill? Camouflage without the structural worries and extra work/money?
A word of warning, while shipping containers are very strong, when ever the side of the container has been cut out for a door or window the structural strength is compromised. I have looked at 'shipping container houses' out of curiosity and usually when a side wall is cut out a 3" x 3" x 1/4" wall HSS square tubing (if memory serves) is welded in place as a header over the opening. This is for units that are not bearing a load on the roof. The corner posts of the container are what carries the load on docks and/or on container ships when the containers are stacked.
PSA in hopes that no one gets crushed in a collapsing container.
Good luck!
BTR
Than= I’d rather be rich than poor.
Then= I first became hungry then I ate.
There = She is there now.
Their = They have their things.
They're = They're going to the mall.
To = They came to the house.
Too = That's too bad.
+Any type of structure that is to be buried, needs first to be reinforced temporarily in side, especially if concrete is involved. After the concrete is set than remove the reinforcement. Don't forget to reinforce the sides when filling in, as they are more susceptible to bulging than the top.
"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."
Ok, why not just do not put anything on the roof!
cover the pit with long timbers, use center supports if needed, us corner supports if needed.
Here is a link to a tiny home site and they have a different take on the Storage containers and how to go about turning them into bunkers, enjoy.
http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/homesteadsurvival/
see picture links at the top, bullet proof on the left is the shipping container and the right side image could be made from shipping containers plural.
I haven't done much research into using sea containers as bunkers but I have seen them used for bunkers and protected storage in a several different parts of the world.
One was constructed as a bunker simply by digging a hole placing the sea container in the hole and so the roof was level with the ground. Dirt was then mounded on top to about 36 inches deep. It actually took a hit from a mortar, 60 or 82mm without any problems. It was only used for a short period though (months) so I don't know how it held up.
Another location had sea containers above ground with dirt traverses built around them. Wooden supports (10x10's) were placed between the sea containers and then wooden beams were placed across the supports. The beams rested on the sea containers roofs as well. A large sand box structure was built on top of this, which was then filled with about 20 to 24 inches of dirt. These were in location for a number of years before I got there. Over this time period several things had happened. One the weight had caused the containers to buckle just enough that the doors could not be closed properly. The doors had to be left open with about a 4 inch gap at the centre. The were then chained closed for security. This gap allowed all sorts of bugs, snakes and rodents into the container. The containers were in northern Bosnia were they get a bit of rain and snow, which lead to a second problem. Water had pooled on the roof and several containers had developed leaks which ranged from small drips to steady flows during the rainy season. Material in the containers had to be covered with a tarp. Since there was a load on the roof the containers could not be pulled out and be replaced.
Just my opinion, but if I were to build a bunker I would want to try to build the overhead protect so that there was no load on the sea container. i would also want some form of sloped roof and drainage system to keep water from pooling on the roof or running down the walls of the sea container.
You are so right on the money.
"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."
Hey everyone,
After watching Doomsday Preppers a few years back, i have begun to prep myself. I stumbled onto this forum the other day and am amazed that fellow canadians share this passion that i have begun to develop
Anyways I am a Ocean Container supplier that distributes inventory throughout Ontario and Canada. I carry both new and used containers in 20' and 40' and 53' sizes. I carry High Cube 40' which are extra tall, and carry OEM containers with single, double, and triple doors. Furthermore any containers can be modified with shelving, insulation, electrical. ALL containers I carry are cargo worthy(wind and weather tight)
Containers have hundreds of uses for Preppers, they can be used as bunkers(when buried) as secure storage for all prep supplies, as portable homes, and the list goes on and on If anyone is interested, or knows any individuals that are looking for Ocean Containers to purchase, please send me a msg either on this forum or at storcon.canada@hotmail.com
P.S
I use one of my 20' containers for safely storing my prepper tools and supplies, and another to store my summer vehicle! I look forward to using this website and all the advice from everyone on it !
Send u a pm please let me know what u can get for my bunker I'm doing
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Something else one may want to consider to use in conjunction with a seacan/s is those concrete lego clocks that you can get from concrete companies. I used to work at Knelsen Sand and Gravel and those blocks are pretty cheap. They are $100 or 150, but you could build yourself an awesome little setup with 2 cans spaced about 30ft or so apart, a bunch of those blocks and a overhead shelter.
Also, just a quick question. Would seacans protect from EMP?
I've heard mixed things on if they will protect some say yes others say no the main thing to think about is if there's sealed most people say but I'm not sure cause I might us one
Preparedness is like a condom , I've rather have it and not need it, rather than need it and not have it