The following is not a pretty read...I just stumbled across it tonight. I pasted the text below but you can find the original source if interested. Now granted he is mostly talking about his country men, but we know the same exist in Canada. This is the stereo type thats out there...he sums it up better than most...not a pretty description...are you adding to that image, or trying to change it...Do you care?...food for thought.
(On a nother matter, where the hell has Accu glass gone, I used to buy it everywhere in Edmonton/Red Deer...NONE in Edmonton...phoned Places in Red Deer they were out or said they didnt know what it was, Had to drive out to Camrose to get a box, not even the brand I want. Does nobody bed their own rifles anymore!! )
Who knew? Certainly I didn’t. With Ebola seemingly dominating the news, I thought it would be amusing to see what those on the hysterical, right-wing, lunatic fringe were making of all of this. And I stumbled upon Prepper Chimp.
Prior to yesterday, I didn’t know this site existed. Which in itself is surprising, because I’m not a stranger to many of these sites. I like to visit them occasionally, and see what these lunatics are up to. It’s particularly telling to visit them when the current news is seemingly dominated by a story such as Ebola.
At first glance, I thought this site might be a parody. It’s hard to believe that anyone could take the content seriously. It even crossed my mind that Jeff Tiedrich might have come up with this idea. And when you think about it, that would have been a terrific idea. Create a web site called Prepper Chimp, use a logo of a chimp wearing a gas mask, and fill that site with a bunch of nonsense and false content. Just punk the crap out of these lunatics.
Unfortunately, Jeff is not the webmaster of this site. A fanatic by the name of Steve Foley is. And while the site is filled with bizarre content worthy of “The Onion”, the loyal followers of this site are true believers.
It’s estimated that there are somewhere between three and four million “preppers” in the United States. Most reliable estimates put their number somewhere around three million, seven hundred thousand. It’s very difficult to get an accurate number, because preppers by their nature are somewhat secretive. But with numbers like this, they are worth paying attention to. This is after all a number that represents over one percent of the population, and they are without a doubt bat shit crazy.
Frankly, these people are scary. They are hoarding guns and supplies. They are prepared on short notice to evacuate their communities, and seek shelter and solace in some of the remotest and Godforsaken parts of this country. They stand ready with their bug-out bags and munitions to move out on short notice. They have a take no prisoners attitude when it comes to anything or anybody that might stand in their way.
These people are deadly serious in this peculiar endeavor, so I decided to do a little digging and see what I could glean regarding the webmaster of Prepper Chimp, Steve Foley. There is no about me or about us page, so I initially turned to “whois” to check on the domain registration.
Prepper Chimp has only been registered for about a year and a half. Foley has amassed a strong Facebook following in that time, and that following seems to be growing. He is also a participant in another website- The Minority Report. TMR is a vile, racist, right wing site, with an even larger following than Prepper Chimp.
Foley lives in a run down neighborhood in California. His Match profile reveals that he is single and never married. He goes by the moniker “DJChillyT”. He is forty-one years old, 5’7” tall, and seeking someone with an athletic build who is between the ages of twenty-five and thirty five. In a remarkable irony, he seeks someone with “no crazy baggage”- even though he is obviously bat shit crazy. Self-described as “stocky”, it becomes very clear this is a euphemism for overweight. He is clad in leather, and describes himself as a self-employed entrepreneur. While he doesn’t mention his affinity for the prepper lifestyle, there is one photo of him holding his assault rifle. Other web sources reveal he is an ex-marine and just loves Louis Gohmert.
Not surprisingly, he has never been married and has no children. Judging by his presentation on Match, I have to believe this is a condition that will persist for quite some time. I could be wrong, but I have to believe there is a scarcity of athletic, slender, young, California women seeking paunchy, middle aged men packing heat, and spouting right wing, racist nonsense. If that weren’t enough, I can’t imagine too many would be eager to wait with him for the ultimate Armageddon he believes is just around the corner, and run off with him to some remote hole in the Earth.
Despite all of his drawbacks and obvious quirks, Foley has been successful in building up his web presence over a fairly short period of time. If you use Facebook followers as a gauge, Foley has substantially more followers combined than does the Smirking Chimp. And has amassed this following in a much shorter period of time.
Which brings us to Ebola, and the gift that is Ebola. For DJChillyT and his admirers and followers, Ebola is one of those gifts that just keeps on giving. Ebola is hope and redemption all rolled into one.
Ebola is something real that you can sink your teeth into. Even the main stream media, which you usually despise, is onboard and in sync with you on this one. And wonder of wonders, Ebola comes from that same black continent where that black, Muslim President was born.
No longer do you have to justify your bat shit crazy, prepper lifestyle. When the mainstream media shouts incessantly about Ebola, it provides a measure of redemption. This is the big one you were waiting for. All of those lame liberals are going to be wishing they had a hole in the ground stocked with an arsenal they could climb into.
Above and beyond redemption, this also provides hope. Yes, as sick and twisted as this sounds, Ebola is a hopeful, desirable thing. Ebola holds promise and hope precisely because it could be the big one.
If you read between the lines here, and you follow the ranting lunacy of this online community, there is only one conclusion you can draw from all of this. And that conclusion is that these people want this to happen. Whether it be Ebola, a pandemic, financial collapse, an asteroid devastating the Earth, or nuclear conflict, they want it to happen.
So brimming with teeth gnashing, uncontrollable anger are they, nothing at this point will serve them other than a collapse of civil order and society. How it happens is irrelevant. That it does come to pass is the imperative here.
So far gone and over the edge are they with delusional anger, nothing will suffice other than a complete breakdown of society. This mixed racial society brimming with deviants and homosexuals. A society that has drifted away from white predominance, and elects a mongrel, black President. For the greater good- their good, it must all come to an end.
And when it does, they will emerge from their holes and realize the return of their supremacy. That is why they prep. For that hopeful day when all of the rest of us are either dead or defeated. And it can’t come soon enough.
Until that wonderful day, they will continue to prep. Even if Ebola isn’t the big one, the big one is coming soon. They know it and they feel it. Soon- very soon. But until it does, they will turn to passionate leaders like DJChillyT for guidance and leadership over at the Prepper Chimp.
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Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Well, isn't that a nice portrait of the average prepper?? Sigh....
Ah the whack a doodles...the bane of my existence!
<facepalm>
Yes, not pretty and I dont think I have seen thoses thoughts expressed as fully before, Not typical of those I know at all, but thats what gets the attention. Loud and proud they are and by force of unchallenged volume they are the blip on the radar.
Rational actors are not seen.....
We absolutly are judged by the company we keep, dont anyone forget that, and by what we dont challenge. Good news is those few like what he refers to are quick to spot...bad news is those few have kept the others away.
Food for thought..
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
In my view, once you go outside the so-called mainstream society, there are always extreme elements and viewpoints. Something to keep an eye on, for sure, but personally I won't lose much sleep over it. In Alberta & the Northwest US there used to be neo-nazi militias, and probably there still are, but they haven't seceded yet and likely never will (I did a paper on it). Many are losers in life who talk big but only a few can back it up. Considering that many Americans don't even believe in evolution or dinosaurs, it doesn't surprise me that some would listen to a guy like that. I have also run across, while browsing prepper websites, serious instructions on How to cook a human..(I didn't stick around to actually read through it), but I think there will always be wack-a-doodles and hopefully most people recognize the difference between them and the majority of preppers.
And many religions have been predicting doomsday /reckoning/whatever they call it, for decades now....if I listened to the loonies I would already be burning in hell with my pro-choice, vegetarian atheist ways 😉
These people and groups are often monitored by law enforcement and so to a certain extent, one could argue we should fear more those who are quietly making preparations for extreme measures and NOT talking about it. It is enough to drive you crazy though. As we have seen, many innocent prep activities could be construed by the authorities as good or bad, sometimes it's the degree of magnitude...
We are judged by the company we keep, but hopefully none of y'all are keeping that kind of company. And I don't know that Facebook followers count as real people per se. If they purport to represent the majority, I would hope other preppers (and the general community) would denounce them. I know, easy for me to say in the relative safety of Canada...
All we can do it try to maintain situational awareness...
HopeImReady
"The thing about smart mother f*ckers, is that they sometimes sound like crazy mother f*ckers to dumb mother f*ckers." -Abraham .”
I did take a look at the Facebook page and to me it doesn't look any better or worse than the anti-police, pro-gun, conspiracy stuff out there now...the only preppers stuff I see is reposting of more 'rational' blogs like greywolf survival & some homesteading blogs.
HopeImReady
"The thing about smart mother f*ckers, is that they sometimes sound like crazy mother f*ckers to dumb mother f*ckers." -Abraham .”
Considering that many Americans don't even believe in evolution or dinosaurs, it doesn't surprise me that some would listen to a guy like that.
Really? Dinosaurs? I have yet to meet or read opinions from any of my fellow countrymen who think those great big bones are fakes. Do they figure we started at the forerunner critter or all the way up at horse, bears and rhinos? Where is it we found these peeps?
... and hopefully most people recognize the difference between them and the majority of preppers.
Wouldn't it be nice if that idea could be applied to, say ... whole countries? Especially large ones with large, diverse populations with freedom of speech?
What a charming place we'd enjoy on earth if even just the educated societies all went "gee, I wonder if those few/those beliefs/those actions really represent many, most, or all?"
I did take a look at the Facebook page and to me it doesn't look any better or worse than the anti-police, pro-gun, conspiracy stuff out there now...the only preppers stuff I see is reposting of more 'rational' blogs like greywolf survival & some homesteading blogs.
I Never checked out what the the author was commenting on, rather just read his reaction to it....I think his reaction was more to the site "prepper chimp" than the facebook site. I never checked out prepper chimp either...to little time, to much internet
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
Considering that many Americans don't even believe in evolution or dinosaurs, it doesn't surprise me that some would listen to a guy like that.
Really? Dinosaurs? I have yet to meet or read opinions from any of my fellow countrymen who think those great big bones are fakes. Do they figure we started at the forerunner critter or all the way up at horse, bears and rhinos? Where is it we found these peeps?
... and hopefully most people recognize the difference between them and the majority of preppers.
Wouldn't it be nice if that idea could be applied to, say ... whole countries? Especially large ones with large, diverse populations with freedom of speech?
What a charming place we'd enjoy on earth if even just the educated societies all went "gee, I wonder if those few/those beliefs/those actions really represent many, most, or all?"
I guess I should have been more specific. I was referring to the polls that mentioned how almost half the population believes dinosaurs & humans lived at the same time. I am not saying that everyone in the country thinks the same way.
http://ncse.com/rncse/30/3/americans-scientific-knowledge-beliefs-human-evolution-year-
I don't want to get off topic, but my point was that there will always be people with opinions on one end of the spectrum, or the other..it sounds like in yhis case, the guy spouts stuff that can be quite violent in the case of this Prepper Chimp, and it is unfortunate that they will have listeners/readers, but it is not surprising. I, for one, hope that most preppers are different than this guy.
HopeImReady
"The thing about smart mother f*ckers, is that they sometimes sound like crazy mother f*ckers to dumb mother f*ckers." -Abraham .”
To each their own. My philosophy is live & let live, and everyone can believe what they want, if it's not hurting anyone else 🙂
HopeImReady
"The thing about smart mother f*ckers, is that they sometimes sound like crazy mother f*ckers to dumb mother f*ckers." -Abraham .”
I wasn't picking on you about recognizing the difference. I think it would truly be nice to apply those theories.
I mod another forum with international users, most actively Aussies and Americans with some Brits. The way people assume lives change by crossing an imaginary line is amazing. The way they picture life in nations separated by oceans is pretty sad. It seems to be wholly driven by what they see on TV, which is largely fiction and a fair chunk of it is period-based. Or includes vampires or whiffs of magic, in the case of BBC America.
They have a certain image by nation: shoot-first cowboys, plaid-dressed jolly Santas that drink beer and say 'eh', totally ignorant camel riders or rice paddy workers who live with pigs (and I have no idea how they reckon that with the big cities like Dubai and Tokyo in their minds), cowboys but with kangaroos in dry plains and the odd pretty reef city, tea with frosted cakes and tweed coats.
Assumptions about the way the vast majority must live across the line, because that's what a few have done and are publicized for it. Assumptions about daily life because of what makes the news, without the thought to at least do a search and see how much applies to their home as well.
Wouldn't it be nice if we around the country and world took a moment to wonder if all of the Southern U.S. really lives in trailers or falling-down stilt shacks on the bayou, if all the people in New Mexico really are an artist or think they were taken by aliens, and all the other steriotypes we run into in our world?
I appreciate the clarification on the poll. Some of it surprised me, some of it didn't given conditions.
...it sounds like in yhis case, the guy spouts stuff that can be quite violent in the case of this Prepper Chimp, and it is unfortunate that they will have listeners/readers, but it is not surprising. I, for one, hope that most preppers are different than this guy.
I hope so.
I know there is a vocal set of the "bug out to the boonies" types who plan to defend "their" space, some more quick on the trigger than others. We know there are multiple sources with the plan to take from others, either as a roving band or from the weekender/vacationer types who think they have a BOL but will face a blockade or "tax" from the locals.
Who knows how many there are, as I imagine there are worlds worth of preppers who never find a forum at all, and all the subsets of society who would count but call themselves different things.
You have a few sites where golden horde and "zombie" removal talk is prevalent. And you have sites like this and a few others where plans for unprovoked violence are or would be swiftly met with criticism and removal.
I imagine the numbers break down similar to everyday life, with criminals, those who are more inclined to side with criminals, "normal" Joe's, and people who work on both sides of the badges to stop and prevent crime.
The "crazy" and "violent" people are the ones who catch attention, just like any other oddball thing that stands out, for good or bad.
That's public interest.
While there are comedies, there's a high number of violent movies and cop shows that deal with what humans do to each other that are up there in viewership. There's not a ton of reality shows of people buckling down, learning to work together, and getting a job done, compared to endless arguments and scheming. The ones that exist typically have a niche of interest groups: the WWII and various farm series that were shown here, Tanked (which has its own arguments but I like it anyway and they're not as prevalent), a celebrity's crazy life that isn't as volatile as Survivor or insane as the fat little girl one or the pregnant teens one or the thrill of shouting and wrestling alligators.
It's the same thing with this article/review of the facebook page.
It's just not as interesting to point out forums and facebook pages where we're talking about being prepared for normal winter and summer storms first, fire safety, growing and sustainability and the better breeds of chickens, what's on tool belts and which hand or power tool works best, jam and hand-threshing and homemade feed ratios, and which kinds of insulation and paint work best.
We lack the shock value that increases viewership/readership and the ability to act out like school bullies, internet tough guys/gals. So unless we can be twisted into seemingly like screwballs, we're just not as interesting and unlikely to make the news. 🙁