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 ndn
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has any one built one?
thay must not be fun to go in in winter time? but if you have to go you have to go !
any tips or tricks that i should know about winter outhouses?


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(@scrounger)
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Don't attach the toilet seat permanently. This will allow you to leave it in house until it's needed. This is more of a really cold weather tip.



   
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 ndn
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Don't attach the toilet seat permanently. This will allow you to leave it in house until it's needed. This is more of a really cold weather tip.

thats actualy a good one 😀


Thank you

NDN


   
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(@villager)
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I made a good unit 4yrs. ago for my son when he was working on several farms, seasonally....portable by pickup or trailer.
Made it for later use also in my planned cabin, where it would be inside the greenhouse,which is to be attached to the front of the cabin entrance. Therefore it would at least be as warm as the greenhouse...and no snowdrifts/wind up yer housecoat :), any time of day/nite.
There will be plenty of thermal mass in the GH to extend heat gained into the night/morning, and small woodstove to extend growing season .
I use a rotating barrel system, removable from the outside, backside, separate chamber. Full one out with a handcart, to sit for a year, empty one in for the next filling...and so on. ( i have many barrels ready for this...the blue 30gal?. size )

One thing i concluded was that if you don't separate the pee, you will have more condensation, also on the bottom of the lid,
and less effective,more smelly, anaerobic breakdown. The separating adaptors are available in california.... don't have the link now.

warm thoughts,...villager



   
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In Canada:
http://www.separett.ca/Torrdass-500-ca



   
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Long Johns, I found the ones with the rear trap door worked better to keep you warm while you did your business at the out house.
I've not had to use an out house in the winter for eons, so I'm not sure if those types of long johns are still available ?

It is very handy having a hanging type flashlight to use out there at night. It can be pretty dark out there in the winter nights.

Another idea is to have an indoor 5 gallon pail with a toilet lid and have a dumping hole outside ??? ideas on this ???
Or just use the pail at night or in bad weather.
Can we dig a hole and line with metal and burn this waste ? Can the waste be left to dry out like doggie dung
and burned for heating the greenhouse in a rocket stove ?

Also if we were in a situation where we had to stay indoors , the out house would not work, and we would need
somewhere to dispose of waste in our 5 gallon pails ? ideas on this problem ?

I also seem to remember some out houses had only holes cut in the sitting platform, and no actual toilet seats
and they were warmer. I seem to remember them being painted in the spring to clean them up . 😆
I also remember the 2 seaters , where there was 2 holes , one for kiddy sized butts and one for
bigger butts. I also remember some of the doors or walls were made of those old style wooden shutters with slats
that opened and closed by moving the middle wooden bar up and down ,
so you could open the slats to let light in and also air out the out house.



   
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Best this time of year is to make a prefab design. That is one that you just fasten final pieces together when on the site. You don't do anything special for an outhouse for the winter as their not heated. But you'd best already have that hole dug as the ground is already froze here!

I think I've used an outhouse a time or two.... 😕

- Keep the vents under the eave so snow doesn't blow in.
- Don't face it into a north wind.
- Don't cut dang moons into the door as snow blows in there too.
- Put screens in around the top to reduce critters from taking refuse inside.
- paint the inside white so it reflects the light at night better and is therefore better lit and easier to clean
- keep you T/P in a coffee can as critters get into it too.
- keep old toilet seats for reuse in the outhouse
- those soft cushy toilet seats are nice in the winter and warm up fairly quick
- put those cheap solar lights along the trail to the crapper
- leave a fly swatter in the crapper during the summer
- leave a old broom there too to remove cob webs if needed
- tie a rope from the the house to the crapper if a bad snow storm is coming...a cousin missed the outhouse and wandered around in her nighty with just a winter coat all night in a bad snow storm...just about died and her hubby slept thru it all!

This is a crappy subject! 😀



   
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Had an excavator in the neighborhood so they dug us an eight foot deep hole. My son lined it with some old plywood and built a platform. Put on an abandoned outhouse from a neighbor that hadn't ever been used. Wish we'd had in the summer when the family came, the septic needed pumping and the pumping guy was super busy. The neighbors said "but you have indoor toilets!" but I say " have you heard of prepared!?"



   
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- Don't cut dang moons into the door as snow blows in there too.

- Put screens in around the top to reduce critters from taking refuse inside.

- put those cheap solar lights along the trail to the crapper

- leave a fly swatter in the crapper during the summer

This is a crappy subject! 😀

This might be a crap topic 😯 but you have me cracked up " K "

---- oooops might need a shovel also , i forgot we've had to shovel our way to the Crap Hut before
---- oooops check down the hole with a flashlight first , never know if your buzz will get bit by that squirrel
---- great idea about the solar light pathway
---- great idea about the fly swatter on the hook on the wall , yes flies do luv the Crap Hut



   
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In winter, you can fill a stack of pails with sealing lids and stand them in a snowbank till you can dump them , if you separate the pee. I would still cover them in case they get knocked over or opened.
I guess y'all know that bear are very attracted to female hormones

Here are the links :

http://www.freerangedesigns.co.uk/index.php/urine-diverter-for-waterless-dry-toilet.html

http://www.omick.net/composting_toilets/barrel_toilet_urine_diversion.htm

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gtzecosan/3284846314/in/set-72157626364669195



   
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Oh winter fun in an outhouse or port-a-potties for that matter, dealing with "poopcycles" and taking the fastest poops possible...

I know that men tend to be lazy (or grossed out standing in front of a poop pit) and decide to instead go in the bush. This can easily become very unsanitary after a while, so I would like to suggest making "piss tubes". I have had to use them in some lesser places of the world and they work decently well. This also kept the outhouses more manageable as feces had to be burned. No pee = burn less often as they didn't fill up as fast = also burned faster. There are plans on how to build them everywhere online.



   
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Yes burning piss is really dreadful. Does anyone recall those toilets that when you flushed
would burn the contents. Neighbors at cottage had one and it really burnt our noses and almost gassed you out. 😆 :mrgreen:
It's the neighbors that get the down draft.

There are some devices for ladies to help them pee in a bottle like a man , sorta like a weini oscar meyer thingi 😳

Helicopilot, I'm cracked up with your crap joke of the Poop Pit

What I'm learning here is to keep the liquid wastes away from the solid wastes ...



   
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Helicopilot, I'm cracked up with your crap joke of the Poop Pit

It's always funny until it's -25C, your lone port-a-potty is filled to the brim and the service contractor can't make it because the roads and too dangerous. And if you're lucky, you look at the opened cases of MREs and all that are left are breakfast beans and winner and lunch chilies. Enjoy! 🙄 Ah, memories....



   
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Tis a good way to poop start your day! 😀

i can't say I've ever burned any waste as we always dug holes instead. The pee tube is good if your not living there year round as we do such at trappers shacks and folks cabins. Nothing stinks in the winter! Can't say I've camped anywhere that we don't immediately figure where to crap either as no one likes stepping in others crap...ever! Must be a city thing if everyone went everywhere cause I can't say I've ever seen that done yet.

The filling pails thing reminded me of Monty Python immediately as the worst we've done is piss in bottles and chuck them out of the tent when drinking too much. 😆 Even if we are to lazy to to build an official dump site(so to speak), we have at least picked a fallen tree to crap over. (as I ain't hauling or emptying crap pails!) Usually we lash a pole across between 2 trees as a rest and throw a tarp around the area. This is easy here as lots of bush and underbrush. We even bring a toilet seat and fasten it if girls are coming along for the weekend and you want them to stay....if not, just leave the seat at home and they usually then stay too! 😀



   
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