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Prepper article in the Province newspaper Sunday

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(@kootenay)
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Thought the Province did a credible job on this article.. The people featured in the article did a good job of speaking to why we need to be prepared 🙂 . Anyone else read the article and have any comments?



   
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(@denob)
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A lot more in depth than the one I gave, although, I think they were looking for a video interview, and were a little unprepared for a telephone piece.
I like the way both articles mention that preppers are not the ones that are waiting for the world to end on Friday!



   
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Yes just had a read and thought it was pretty good. Really liked the fact that it didn't make out a prepper to be an extremist or a kook in general. I think the community are begining to catch on and its articles like this that help raise awareness to such people and our concerns about many issues which could effect us here on our soil. Great to hear of others and maybe we get some more trafic here because of the article. That would be a bonus as well.


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Here here, and come five o'clock, I'll drink to that!
As for increased traffic, just to let you know...over at the CPN blog, we were up about 35% yesterday and so far have hit about 100% up today...yup, double the readership of the average day.
This is likely due to multiple Canadian articles about preppers hitting the media, but also the unfortunate events of last Friday being somehow linked to prepping.
All we can do is continue to push the fact that we are not whackos, but rater ordinary people living right next door!



   
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Seeing the Province Article is being discussed here it is:

Link to Article: http://www.theprovince.com/preppers+preparing+worst/7702605/story.html#axzz2FLNmE8cy

B.C.'s preppers are preparing for the worst

Much of B.C. lies under the cover of darkness. Phones have gone silent, roads have split and sewer lines are spewing their contents to the surface.

Some buildings are still swaying, others have partially collapsed.

The city of Vancouver has been shaken into submission with a 9.0 magnitude earthquake.

Those in the downtown core stumble out of the rubble of one of the world’s greenest cities quickly turning grey.

Amid the dust and debris, Denise Japp rummages through what she calls her “get-home bag.”

First-aid kit? Check. Spare food, clothing and water? Check. Shelter, fire-starters, protection? Check.

For years, she has lugged it to work along the West Coast Express into the city’s core.

It’s time for Denise to put her plans in motion. She and her partner Alan Armbruster have spent years preparing for this day.

She has 72 kilometres to walk home to Mission, where she knows Alan expects her eventual arrival.

It will be their base of operations as they ride out B.C.’s worst disaster in history.

Denise unfolds her map and goes over her route one more time. Should things get really hairy, she has extra cache spots of food and supplies along the way.

Cell phone calls clog the networks, so Denise texts Alan to let him know she is shaken, but otherwise alright.

With emergency personnel attending to the fallen, she surveys her surroundings and starts her two-day journey home.

'JUST ANOTHER WAY OF THINKING'

“It’s not anything really crazy; it’s just a different way of thinking – to be always prepared,” says Denise, from the comfort of her Mission home.

It’s a cozy Saturday night in mid-December, 2012 and no; the world here on the west coast did not end – though Denise and Alan have prepped for it, in whatever manifestation it arrives.

The Mission couple are among a small but budding community in B.C. of survivalists, or ‘preppers’: a term that still doesn’t pass the spellcheck on your computer, but has been coined across the continent by the highest-rated program in the history of the National Geographic Channel – Doomsday Preppers.

Yes, they do watch it. But unlike many of its subjects, they don’t believe in the rapture or the apocalypse – whatever you want to call it – that signals the end of days.

They don’t think the world will end on December 21st – when the 5,125 year Mayan long-count calendar abruptly ends – as nearly 1 in 10 Canadians say they do, and as do the thousands worldwide expected to descend on the Yucatan Peninsula to witness it first-hand.

Their concept of catastrophe is much more measured.

Originally from Ontario, both Denise and Alan lost their well-paying jobs when the auto industry crashed in 2000. They then moved to Florida where Alan always wanted to own a dive shop.

“Then September 11th happened,” Alan says, regretfully.

In Florida, the couple saw hurricanes – and prepping for them – first-hand.

“Basically how not to do it,” Alan says. “People waiting till the very last minute, then it’s a scramble.”

Alan describes mad dashes for food, and line-ups at hardware stores for supplies.

“They’d buy up all the sheets of plywood and nail them on their windows. Once the storm passes, they throw them in the dump, wait a couple weeks or a month and a half for the next one . . . over and over and over again.”

Denise and Alan settled in B.C. in 2007, where Alan took a job as a bus driver.

Covering ground from Vancouver to Kamloops, Alan’s “get-home bag” is fitted for five days of survival.

“There’s really a lot that can go wrong here – there could be an earthquake, a tsunami . . . there are two volcanoes,” says Alan. “I really don’t think the world will end because of zombies. I see people acting like zombies, but a zombie apocalypse . . . no.”

If the walking dead did happen to roam the Lower Mainland, Alan and Denise would be prepped for that, too.

Their three-bedroom, 2,000 square foot Mission home has been custom-fitted to sustain their survival.

An African-style, keystone garden (uses very little water and has a compost in the centre which makes it self-fertilizing) has been planted in their backyard. Bee boxes have been set up to pollinate what they’re growing. Barrels litter the yard, collecting rainwater to purify and store in a 275-gallon container. Extra food, fuel and equipment have been purchased and put away.

While both have firearms training, Alan is skilled in the bush should their home become unsafe.

He is currently working on fitting a mobile trailer with a kitchenette, shower and heaters if they have to hit the road.

A common concept among preppers is to have a “bug-out” location: somewhere you can go if your home is compromised.

Theirs is somewhere in the Interior, though they aren’t going to draw a map for you.

“We don’t have family here. We’re looking out for ourselves at this point,” Denise says, unabashedly.

FORMING A BC PREPPING COMMUNITY

A little further into the valley, a Chilliwack resident named Glenn has been venturing into the bush and sharpening his survival skills for the last two years.

A licensed mechanic and avid outdoorsman, he is pretty new to the prepping concept, but is picking it up fast – watching survival videos on YouTube and attempting to reach out to other local preppers online.

“I feel that a lot of us are kind of solitary,” the Ontario transplant tells the Sunday Province.

He is a soft-spoken family man who wants to share his thoughts on prepping, but also wants to keep his full identity under wraps for the safety of his family.

He does it for his two kids, Glenn says, though he doesn’t like to spook them with any sort of doomsday talk around the house.

So he turns to his friends, looking to talk about preparing for a major disaster. It could be an economic collapse, he tells them, or a phenomenal weather disaster. It could even be a national defence problem.

“It’s peculiar. I had to tone it down,” he says. “Most don’t like to face the facts that something like that may happen.”

If something catastrophic did happen, Glenn and his significant other have a plan in place.

The safety of their home is the first option, but Glenn envisions “a more nomadic situation.”

“It doesn’t take people very long when they’re hungry to start turning on each other,” he says. “The chances of having to leave the Valley are, to me, quite high.”

He has handpicked a location in the B.C. interior and hopes it’s well thought-out.

His family each have their own bug-out bags ready to pack into Glenn’s well-equipped ’78 Ford 4x4. It would act as both their shelter and transportation to what he calls “higher ground.”

But they may need help along the way, Glenn says.

He would like to meet other B.C. preppers and share knowledge and tips – maybe even start the foundation of a community that would come together in the event of a major disaster.

Glenn isn’t the only local prepper scouring the web for others like him.

On one local forum, a prepper from Abbotsford arranged for a late-November meeting at a Tim Horton’s somewhere in the Valley.

He said he’d be the guy in the beard and ball cap, but another said wait – he too would be sporting a beard and ball cap. To avoid confusion, one guy suggested a sign on the table that read “preppers” – another said to just look out for the guys in beards in ball caps.

Glenn joined the forum too late to attend the meeting, but he’ll go to the next one if it happens, he says.

Online, a growing number of local preppers are calling for people with distinct skills – be it doctors, dentists, craftsmen or survivalists – to get to know each other in case they need to form “well-cohesive groups,” as Glenn describes it.

“You might start to develop these friendships and some of these people might become part of a bigger plan,” he says.

ALAMO-STYLE BUGOUT

Bob, from the Lower Mainland, has been prepping his whole life for a time his dad described to him as “when SHTF.”

“My dad always said, ‘you will be on your own, when SHTF.’” says Bob, who is withholding his surname for business reasons. “He said, ‘a simple hike in the woods can ruin your day, always be prepared.’”

Bob says he preps for his family, preps for the unknown.

He has stock piled everything from food to medical supplies, as well as legal firearms for game. He has acquired survival, self-defence and small arms skills during the years.

He’s been in the military and has lived in the North – without power – for eight years.

In total, Bob has invested well over $10,000 in what he describes as “just the basics, not including other equipment and training, and food stocks.”

“I think with all the current events such as floods, wars, earthquakes, social unrest, virus outbreaks, solar flares coming – you need to be prepared.”

“I have seen how Governments respond to need and how they fail. I also do not, and will not, be in a food line-up, much like we have seen in the U.S. recently.”

Bob cites the much-publicized lack of government response to the October 27, magnitude 7.7 earthquake off the coast of Haida Gwaii as an example – “we found out after it happened.”

Just this week, the City of Vancouver announced they will be releasing a public-awareness video in the hopes that residents buy an earthquake preparedness kit and form a plan in the event of a disaster.

Bob has three plans in place. Plan number one is local, with a reasonably close bug-out location. If that’s unfeasible, his second plan is to reach people he knows and trusts, who hold “prepping items” for him.

His last resort is an “Alamo-type” location for the family to retreat to.

“The third is a place we never want to have to go to. This means all else has failed and we can’t go back to our old home.”

Bob looks at the coming end of the Mayan calendar as just one more reason British Columbians need to get prepared.

“December 21st is just another day, or is it? I don’t know, so I prep.”

ARE YOU PREPARED?

Words of wisdom from your local preppers:

“Create a plan, especially if you have family. Make a plan for how you’re getting to your kids and where you’re taking them.” Denise Japp, Mission.

“Get info. Go to the Emergency Management B.C. website. I’ve heard many people say they’re going to be the first ones eaten. They haven’t prepared for anything.” Alan Armbruster, Mission.

“There are things and skills you’ll need to have with you. Start having meetings, start getting together – brainstorm – get ideas to add to your arsenal.” Glenn, Chilliwack.

“The guy next door will first ask you for food, then he will demand it, then he will try and take it... if we all prep a little we can prevent some of this from happening.” Bob, Lower Mainland.


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Here's today's...seemed a bit more off sided.

Link to Article: http://www.theprovince.com/news/world/Newtown+shooting+Suspect+mother+Nancy+Lanza+prepper+stockpiled/7710943/story.html#axzz2FMIZLge8

Nancy Lanza was a 'prepper'; stockpiled food and guns

Nancy Lanza was, in many respects, a typical American Mom.

The former stockbroker was a volunteer in her neighbourhood, a diehard Red Sox fan, keen on gardening and fond of a glass of wine at her local bar in Connecticut.

But on Friday last week she became the first victim of Adam Lanza, her deeply troubled son. After her murder, he would go on to kill a further 25 people, most of them young children.

The reason he committed one of the worst school massacres in U.S. history may never be known. One detail, however, about his otherwise comfortable, suburban family life has caught the eye. His mother was a “prepper.”

READ ABOUT B.C.'S PREPPERS

Nancy’s sister-in-law, Marsha Lanza, has told reporters how she “prepared for the worst. Last time we visited her in person, we talked about prepping — are you ready for what could happen down the line, when the economy collapses?”

She had started stockpiling tinned food, amassing a large collection of guns and reportedly taking her son to the local shooting range.

U.S. movement

Prepping (preparing for disasters) suggests fairly extreme paranoid behaviour. But in America, it is fast becoming a fully fledged movement, with an estimated three million adherents, and practised by a wide variety of people, including many living in apparent humdrum apple-pie neighbourhoods, with widescreen televisions on the sitting room walls and a picket fence around the garden.

A large array of websites, online forums, radio shows and shops cater to preppers and their belief that something terrible may just happen.

Everything from The Survival Mom, which gives advice on how to cook tasty brownies for your kids in the event of “a horrific natural disaster or civil war,” to shops that sell crossbows to kill “suburban animals.”

Wildly Diverse

The alphabet soup of militia-style jargon and acronyms that preppers use — TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it) — gives the impression that preppers are a homogeneous movement, all speaking the same language and sharing the same beliefs. But they are a disparate group of people, who hoard food for wildly different reasons.

Some believe that the impending disaster will be caused by an asteroid hitting the earth or an unmanageable population explosion, causing civil unrest and looting. Others are merely preparing for the very realistic eventuality that they may lose their job and be short of income.

The one thing they share is the belief in being ready and, particularly, having a few days’ worth of food stored in the garage. Or, in the more extreme examples, a whole year’s worth, along with a flock of chickens or even hundreds of fish in a swimming pool, a wind- or solar-powered generator, a means of escape, and the ability to be completely self-sufficient.

Pioneer Lifestyle

In America, there has been a long history of citizens wanting to recreate the pioneer lifestyle of their forebears, with the survivalists phenomenon popular in the ’70s and ’80s.

The most extreme example was Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, who lived in a cabin in Montana and waged war on technology by sending numerous homemade bombs through the post.

The niche movement died down until the late ’90s, when a widespread fear of the so-called Y2K bug — which was supposedly going to cause chaos in the world’s computer systems on the stroke of midnight on New Year’s Eve in 1999 — took hold in the mainstream.

The bug never materialized, but the need to be self-sufficient and survive “off-grid,” free from technology, national power supplies, and the state only escalated with 9/11 in 2001 and Hurricane Katrina in August 2005.

The view that people could no longer trust government to protect and help them was exacerbated by the recession and severe increase in unemployment in recent years.

SurvivalBlog.com

James Rawles, a former U.S. army intelligence officer, is a leading prepper. His website, SurvivalBlog.com, gets 300,000 visitors a month. He lives deep in the countryside, in a secret location somewhere in the Rockies, has trained in martial arts and has enough food to last three years.

“Should the worst happen, it’s become apparent the government can’t provide for everybody. And now that realization is becoming far more widespread,” he says.

“Survivor Jane” (who won’t give me her real name) runs a “girlie girl” blog for female survivalists, illustrated with a picture of camouflage high heels, and says her driving motivation is self-responsibility.

“For me, the last straw came after two people who had just robbed someone at gunpoint tried to carjack me as I left a downtown parking garage — that was the day my eyes were opened to how unsafe our world had become. That is when I began to educate myself.”

She insists that preppers are not synonymous with gun owners.

“Absolutely not. In fact, I would say it would be foolish to focus on guns as your only means of protection.”

Though, with 88 guns for every 100 American citizens, the majority of preppers see guns as a key part of their survival kit — not necessarily for self-defence, but certainly as a weapon to hunt food with.

Dr. Glenn Wilson, a fellow of the British Psychological Society, says that preppers exhibit classic anxiety traits, commonly found in people with a conservative outlook, who fear change.

“They have a tendency to react to uncertainty with fear,” he says.

The one word that nearly all preppers use, when justifying their behaviour is “insurance”.

British Preppers

Simon Dillon is one of a small, but growing number of British preppers.

The former soldier (many preppers have a military background) has a large selection of pulses, sauces, and freeze-dried meals at his home in Brinnington, Stockport, along with 140 kilograms of rice.

“That’s 75 grams a portion, 1,866 meals, which is enough for a meal every day for a year.”

Simon, who is happily married with children (also provided for), has built a special extension to his house to store the food and 300 litres of water. He thinks he is behaving rationally in the face of economic uncertainty and rising food and fuel prices.

“Other people have buildings insurance and life insurance. Well, I have food insurance.”

He also points out that his behaviour is not that much more extreme than that exhibited by Tom and Barbara Good, the much-loved characters from the ’70s sitcom The Good Life.

“If you walked into someone’s house and saw they had that much food, you’d think they were a bit off the wall. But if you look at it as a whole with everything else I do, I like to think it’s just a bit like The Good Life. If a difficult time comes, I won’t be relying on the state.”

He is far from being the only British prepper. Royston Upson, is a retail manager by day, but runs survivalist courses at the weekend in the southeast.

“It’s growing all the time over here. I’d say there were tens of thousands of us.”

Like many, he is uncomfortable with the prepper tag, preferring to describe himself as “self-reliant.” When he was unemployed for a few months last year, he dipped into his store of food — he recommends everyone keeps a month’s worth.

“It’s better than money left in the bank. It’s partly a hobby, but also a genuine belief that something could happen. The economic problems are only going to get worse.”

Many preppers in America are fearful that the Connecticut massacre will see Obama’s government try to limit their freedoms. Tom Martin, founder of the Preppers Network, said: “Preppers seek to prepare, save, and defend life. So why the blame game?”

He claims that Victoria Soto, the primary school teacher murdered by Lanza and hailed a hero for managing to hide some of her pupils in a cupboard, was also a prepper.

“Whether they are defending themselves or especially when they defend the lives of those that they love the most, a prepper’s primary goal is to protect life.”

That may be so, but it is hard to avoid the conclusion that in this terrible incident, the fear of disaster became self-fulfilling.



   
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For The Record,

When Mike first contacted me, to do the article I didn't want to do it. I told my wife that she could handle it herself. Afterall, she set up the water containment (What a gal!) herself, she set up the garden herself, she cans the meat, veggies, fruit, dehydrates, experiments with food storage etc etc. I only take care of the behind the scenes logistics, fabrication, emergency plans and tactics. However, Mike wanted BOTH sides of the story from us. When I talked to him, I made it clear right up front. "NO, I don't think the world will end in a few days. NO, I don't believe in Zombies, however there are a score of things that can go wrong, that can create a crisis, from losing a job for a few months, to an earthquake". We, like the BC Emergency Management website, as well as the Center for Disease Control in the USA tend to lump everything into a more gendre oriented 'Zombie Apocalypse'. Nothing was ever mentioned about home defenses, firearms, or nuclear war, or even sasquatch attacks. I crossed my fingers and hoped he wouldn't portray us as some redneck hillbilly, beef jerky chewing whackos. He didn't. For that, I was grateful to Mike. He was not provocative, was sincere, and I felt he helped to get the message out, that we are all trying to voice. BE PREPARED.

I know there are people here in the forum,who would like to connect with other preppers, for mutual support, ideas and resources, that is why I come here as well. Several have made attempts to set up 'Get-togethers', locally, to bring others together. Unfortunately, my schedule is constantly changing and it becomes difficult for me to commit, without an abrupt cancellation. On the home front, we have a small local group who tend to keep to themselves (ourselves), don't like making themselves a target etc, but enjoy the information exchange, bulk deals on food and other resources, safe storage sites, and ideas. I have 100% confidence if an emergency hits my home, I will be able to rely on them for mutual support. I have already seen this first hand.

With the help of Mike's article, I believe more and more people will begin to prepare, whether it is privately, or in a mutual supporting group. Thanks for the comments regarding the article.

Alan A (or was that J)?


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Good responce Perppersaurus and a good article..

You should however change your name at the bottom, at least just put in your last name with just the A.. we are googled all the time, do not want you to be oogled after being googled..



   
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Thank you, WindernessReturn.


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