Rifle Selection and Ammo Availability

So I was doing inventory of .22 cal rounds yesterday and was noticing that the brass was looking a little shabby. I twisted the bullet tip and was surprised that it turned! I tried one from a dif box of the same brand and the same thing happened again. I then took one out of a super high end box and sure enough it spun too.
What's with that? You'd think if by some freak accident a fleck of powder god rubbed and the friction ignited the round... I just thought it was strange. I would have assumed the tip would be affixed. One might assume that it would play a part in the bullets trajectory, allowing too much oxygen into the combustion produced? Weird.

That is really common with .22 rounds. I have had no negative effects from it though. As for the brass, that is just humidity. Again, no ill effects.

GM1

Heya,

I used to curse whenever I found a bullet that could turn in the case (.22 lr). I've had it happen on bullets from almost every major manufacturer, except my Eley Tenex target ammo. But since Remington is now making ammo for Eley, I expect the same turning issue at some point, unless Eley keeps the reins in, and lets them only produce the sport. Can't recall ever having one fail, that turned in the case.

P

Funny..been shooting that cal forever and never noticed it before..

I've noted this turning feature for many years in the .22 cal rounds. The first possibility is this is due to less crimping force applied and more of a snap fit so as to avoid the possibility of deformation. The smaller the diameter of the round, the higher % of deformity per surface area would occur when applying those same pressures used on higher caliber rounds. The second consideration is the less combustion pressures achieved by these slower FPS rounds would be likely slowed even more if they were crimped tighter. These are just assumptions but they seem appropriate to me anyways.

At first.. after I realized they were all like that, I thought maybe it was to allow more oxygen into the shell case to achieve better combustion. I googled it and apparently your lucky if half the powder ignites as it is. One of the many technical difficulties of making .22 cal rounds.

Well,

I've got my dear sweet 12 ga Remington 870 Express with a 28" barrel for hunting,
a Remington .22 552 Speedmaster for the coyotes, some small hunting, and if worst comes to worst to deter some nefarious folks,
an SKS because I love it, and it could prove handy for self defense or even larger game hunting.

I'm also planning to get a 30-06 soon, for large game mostly as I want to go moose/bear hunting, and for gun range fun!

I wanna go...
Moose hunting that is. Didnt get my Elk tag this year. In fact I don't know anyone who did. Oh well.

Cabelas opens here in 9 days! Yay!!

We got two bull moose Limited Entry draws for October.... should be fun!

Tinfoilhats:

Have you hunted moose before?

Nope never....but my group members have been hunting for decades. They have trail cams up, already found a couple bulls on them...we have locals giving us intel. Seems like a good system so far!

Saw a headline for banning drones for hunting..never even occurred to me that they could be used for hunting but makes total sense.

Wow, I guess someone got to get away with it before they made such a ruling, but it has always been illegal to spot from an aircraft up here where I live and game wardens are leary of anyone hauling their meat out of the bush by plane due to this factor. Lots of folks note here where they see moose in their daily travels and those moose whose stomping grounds are viewed daily are the first to be dropped on opening day.

Moose sleep during the day and forage from around 5pm to 9am. So either be an early riser for a daybreak shot or an evening hunter til sundown. I don't usually hunt with rifle til later in the season when others slacken off, but used to always start early as bow season(and primitive weapon) open 2-3 weeks earlier. It is tourist country where I live and game wardens are everywhere. ATV 4 Wheelers are the rage these days annoy us old dogs who still enjoy a good walk now and then when we hunt.

I wish I could moose hunt...

So I was doing inventory of .22 cal rounds yesterday and was noticing that the brass was looking a little shabby. I twisted the bullet tip and was surprised that it turned! I tried one from a dif box of the same brand and the same thing happened again. I then took one out of a super high end box and sure enough it spun too.
What's with that? You'd think if by some freak accident a fleck of powder god rubbed and the friction ignited the round... I just thought it was strange. I would have assumed the tip would be affixed. One might assume that it would play a part in the bullets trajectory, allowing too much oxygen into the combustion produced? Weird.

.22 are heel based bullets, meanning the actual dia of the bullet is greater than the case (or maybe = to)....typical crimpers dont work so manufacturers have to design a different crimper, some like Eley, and if I remember right RWS simply invested more or designed better, to achieve the typically expected tight crimp as other rounds have, some manfacturers are ok with less crimping force, but maybe lower cost and higher production numbers, either way it doesnt matter, what matters is consistancy from round to round, lot to lot. If you have a mic you can measure and confirm this.