Ever wonder what life would be like if the shit did hit the fan. When one can determine the out come of an event, one has a better understanding of what to get ready for.
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Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth. Several thinkers, notably James Howard Kunstler and, more recently John Michael Greer, have pointed out that the Kübler-Ross model is also quite terrifyingly accurate in reflecting the process by which society as a whole (or at least the informed and thinking parts of it) is reconciling itself to the inevitability of a discontinuous future, with our institutions and life support systems undermined by a combination of resource depletion, catastrophic climate change, and political impotence. But so far, little has been said specifically about the finer structure of these discontinuities. Instead, there is to be found a continuum of subjective judgments, ranging from "a severe and prolonged recession" (the prediction we most often read in the financial press), to Kunstler's "Long Emergency," to the ever-popular "Collapse of Western Civilization," painted with an ever-wider brush-stroke.
What boggles my mind is that for every stage millions of people are dealing with those feelings. As a Canadian I am looking at the States to see what is going to happen to them, and then hang on for dear life til the dust settles. They have a population 10X !! that of Canada. The prepper and survivalists will go through all the stages of feelings very quickly, and the rest of the population will go through at different rates, depending on their circumstances and general state of mind. (previously aware, or not aware) I know for myself that I will struggle with all the stages all at once. 😮 😯 😕 😡 😐
I read a few of the blogs, SHTFplan.com or economiccollapseblog.com for instance. What often gets me is someone saying "oh no, it's not that bad", or "it won't be that bad". Because at that moment hundreds of thousands, or a million people are already going through their own end of the world as they knew it, the s already htf for them. The internet brings so many different people in different situations together that it's often hard to settle your mind to what IS happening because everything is happening to everyone somewhere. It may be time for me to go back to just listening to the voices in my own head.
You are so right vanislemom, the thing with that is most people have lost the ability to lesson to there gut. I've had conversion about this for a long time, and my conclusion is the more your metal perpetrated for the worse the better off you are to have the ability to endure what ever. and a cupboard full of food and water can also only make it better. Others I've talk to, there thinking the end of the world as we know it, well then so be it, not much you can do about that.
The five stages of collapse is a good read to have the mental edge on people who if stuff does break down, we can avoid areas or situations were we could get cough out in a bad way.
What boggles my mind is that for every stage millions of people are dealing with those feelings. As a Canadian I am looking at the States to see what is going to happen to them, and then hang on for dear life til the dust settles. They have a population 10X !! that of Canada. The prepper and survivalists will go through all the stages of feelings very quickly, and the rest of the population will go through at different rates, depending on their circumstances and general state of mind. (previously aware, or not aware) I know for myself that I will struggle with all the stages all at once. 😮 😯 😕 😡 😐
I read a few of the blogs, SHTFplan.com or economiccollapseblog.com for instance. What often gets me is someone saying "oh no, it's not that bad", or "it won't be that bad". Because at that moment hundreds of thousands, or a million people are already going through their own end of the world as they knew it, the s already htf for them. The internet brings so many different people in different situations together that it's often hard to settle your mind to what IS happening because everything is happening to everyone somewhere. It may be time for me to go back to just listening to the voices in my own head.
Yes, you're right...it's called 'normalcy bias' or the stage of denial.
I read SHTF too, every day!!!
Right now there are 45 million Americans on food stamps and some sort of govt. assistance.
There will be pain--there will be blood---there will be damage to good and decent people who didn't wish to listen and pay attention to signs. I'm not telling you anything you don't know..
My concern is only that dh and I have noone--no back up..no help...no guard for our stuff.
3 families work here to support 7 families not working---those are not good numbers and it can't last much longer.
I pray and ask for guidance every day.
jay jay can you not all move to some other place, were all of you could form some sort of co-op were the skills of each person can be use to benefit the inter group. It would seem to me a benefit to have so many people you can count on, safety in numbers as the saying gos. I would like to hear more about your situations on here, maybe we could come up with a remedy for you.
jay jay can you not all move to some other place, were all of you could form some sort of co-op were the skills of each person can be use to benefit the inter group. It would seem to me a benefit to have so many people you can count on, safety in numbers as the saying gos. I would like to hear more about your situations on here, maybe we could come up with a remedy for you.
Move to a co-op?? Man, the talk comes up lots on the prepper sites.
For us, it's not realistic at this time...dh still works, must work. Lucky to have a job--self-employed logger.
He has a nephew and a brother 14 years older than he...we talk about them joining us if it gets bad to help guard supplies and food.
We can't just up and move from here---can't sell---and we have equity we can't walk away from.
Those co-ops are few and far between---not near here...
and don't forget---I have to go to sleep every night praying the New Madrid fault keeps quiet a while longer.
I always wondered at the stupidity of Californians why they would stay on beach property when for years the consensus says it's gonna wash away.
Well, trick's on me---because now I do understand---faith keeps me hopeful...but, finances deter any plans to relocate as well--it's just not as simple as many think...and I have no ties here. Imagine those with families even nearer Yellowstone and NM fault!!!
Ranting --I know. Just now , I see another side and view.
I can relate with Jayjay.
When the SHTF I too will stand alone. Being alone in a world of Madness won't be easy for anyone, but the folks who bill themselves as preppers will have a much better chance of survival then the sheeple who believe the governments will look out for them.
Co-ops are a great idea, but not practical for everyone, the best we can do is to try and find like minded people and hope for the best.
DaScribbler
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Elizabeth Kübler-Ross defined the five stages of coming to terms with grief and tragedy as denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance, and applied it quite successfully to various forms of catastrophic personal loss, such as death of a loved one, sudden end to one's career, and so forth.
Years back,(the late 90's maybe?) one of the BC PEP organizations hosted a earthquake/disaster TV program detailing the emotional/mental after effects that could be anticipated ... it was overwhelming how many were portrayed in denial, anger and depression stages... how many are forecasted to 'lose it' altogether in a real-life disaster...
paintergirl yes, You could probable calculate how many people in a society who will freak out, who will hang in there, and all the in between. Just a matter of finding your personal effects on ones self and family and dealing with it now and not when shit hits the fan.