Never looked that far into it. If north is the option I wonder how many from the south will show up. That is the reason I did this. If not then not. I have land, I was just giving some options for those that don't. Figured a central location was something all cities may be interested in. Are wetlands a problem in SHTF? Seems like the options are north (Too short a growing season, some problems with access and some local mischeif), South (Too populated and pricey) Central (Price and access to water....well water?)
Rock and a hard place it seems.
has anybody mentioned pine point, NWT? no roads in, closed in '85? i think, I left in '82. nobody lives there but the buildings are still there i think,
as for locals, there are loads of people on facebook that want to see this place open again.
Mountainman for Mayor!
has anybody mentioned pine point, NWT? no roads in, closed in '85? i think, I left in '82. nobody lives there but the buildings are still there i think,
as for locals, there are loads of people on facebook that want to see this place open again.
hhhmmmm
thinking on this now! just ... hhmmmmmm
Mountainman for Mayor!
Martha,
Thanks for the vote of confidence. However, I am not dishonest enough to be a politician.
diy,
Thanks for the link to the NFB. That paints a nice picture. So, you say the whole town is still there in the wilderness.........I guess I should have watched to the end. The 2009 video footage shows a flat footprint where a town once existed but is no more. The homes were shipped to Hay River and High Level.
Cheers,
Mountainman.
yes, not exactly 'bug out' ready lol
Was a very good documentary either way.
There are a few of these mining towns in NW Ont that are still standing as a small percentage of the population stayed behind; just too damn far away from me.
Yes lots of old mining towns. some of them still - almost - thriving. lol. the two I'm closest to have dedicated museums and murals of the old mining life. and some of the original houses that didn't get burned down in The Great Fire of 1922.
I love those old houses...lots of hiding places. 😀
I would love to visit but picking up and moving to a community like this never really crossed my mind.
I strongly feel that you have the region correct, as we might have to flee that far into the wilderness to escape hordes of starving people, but it would be tough to live any sort of normal life...
Personally, I like the idea better of wilderness caches of supplies. Something tells me that if we have to be out that far in the wilderness, we will have to be in the wilderness, and not in a town like sitting ducks. In essence, a more transient lifestyle, similar to the first people's way of living as they hunted and gathered.
Fishin_E,
Nomadic may be the solution. Follow the food. Follow the weather. Avoid the trouble hot spots.
It worked for the Mongols. And they live in a region similar to Eastern Slopes of the Rockies, except they have an actual desert - Gobi Desert to avoid. They use the Yurt, transportable cabin/tent. Lattice frame and animal skin walls and roof. Some use felt panels.
Maybe get a big canoe and stay on the original highways??
Mountainman.
I guess what motivates me to argue for the Nomadic idea is that physical things can always be taken away from you.
I'm thinking a multi-faceted approach is necessary. While being nomadic might offer you the most protection from conflict and flexibility during changing conditions, nobody really wants to live this life permanently. I would say that re-settlement would always be a goal for people fleeing a disaster area, which make these abandoned mining towns deserve a second look.
Maybe instead of picking one, and going all-in, you pick a few and do some assessments. A scenario could be that you have exhausted your supplies at home or safety has become an issue in your local area so you are forced to flee and live off the land for a period until civil unrest has calmed down. It would be nice to have a few options of places to head towards if returning home were not an option.
Fishin_E,
You make a strong case. I see a lot of merit in your suggestion. Establish a number a diverse, scattered, defend-able "Safe Zones" that can be occupied in short order if you must depart one for another. Having "Safe Zones" that occupy different climates, elevations and terrains provide for options, which way to go depending on the threat set against you and yours.
True, most people today could not survive long in a true nomadic society. That is too tough mentally and probably physically, too. Which is why it would probably work very well. To survive in such a lifestyle, you would have to be "all in"! You could not be a fence sitter. You could not be lazy - in body or mind. It would be a hard lifestyle. You would get very fit and tough in short order. You could own anything you wanted as long as you could carry it with you. It would be advisable to have a series of caches to store items near where you set up camp - such as axe's, saws, shovels, hammers, as well as, ammo and spare parts.
The old mining towns do seem to provide a good starting point.
Mountainman.
What kind of vehicles would you be looking at for transportation in this nomadic life? Horses? A mule?
4x4 with small camper on top
or with truck cap (canopy for westerners)
Large Cargo Van, Box Truck, Mini Van, with or without trailers.
Above scenario is already in use by Tens of Thousands in North American today!
While stationed in Europe, I saw Gypsy and Hippy Caravans being pulled by Mules and by Goats. True Nomads, travel from area to area. They pulled culled little Vardos behind their animals, while walking with animals so they would not be frightened by the traffic, or A holes who shout at them.
There are lots of people today whom have given up the Sticks and Bricks dwellings for so many reasons and live a nomadic lifestyle right now. Most opt for vehicles, most would call them homeless and hopeless, I would call them something very different a Van Dweller which is the moniker that most go by. Some though live in cars, way to small for my though, even a Mini Van is a bit small.