Opinions Please

We've been talking about this a lot lately. Good to have you back from the Aussie land of floods and brush fires. That theory is on the radar. People do move towards the city. not away from them. I'm more concerned about the "Brass Hoard" (Foolish under prepared survivalists that have BOBS and guns and think they can live off the land) than the golden hoard. I told a friend on "The Teams" lately that you have to be very careful NOT to shoot some kid in your garden. Doing so might set off a multi generational BLOOD FEUD that slaughters the ones you love. Do You think WROL means less responsibility or MORE responsibility. He replied, "Of Course. Think Hatfield's and McCoy's".

I'm going to come at this topic from a different direction. A few years back, thinking about types of disasters that are possible and probable, I decided that it was most likely that a major disaster would happen due to multiple factors coming together to form a bigger event.

Most major disasters I have been in or around, including floods and fires mostly, include at least two and often three or more things going wrong at the same time.

The fact that there are so many influential factors makes it difficult to settle on one probable outcome for where people will go in an emergency.

I'd like to hear more from this author on what geographical, social, environmental and weather related conditions they are assuming, because they are generally all different depending on the city.

The more fun thing to speculate on would be specific cities and their individual situation. Would people migrate into Vegas for work? How about Los Angeles? How about a city that has maintained some of it's capacity to produce and handle goods such as food, clothing, tools, weapons? How about cities and regions based solely on resource extractions, or shipping, or service and office workers?

Do you know what the industrial and economic makeup of your nearest city, and whether or not they have the capacity to tool back and operate under extreme economic stress conditions?

I agree that the government will redistribute all resources to the big cities anyway. You'll be standing in line for your proverbial beets, but you'll likely stay alive if you can deal with the rising crime and sanitation concerns. HOWEVER you want to evaluate your city's water situation. Is there a large river, pond, reservoir etc WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS? If there is then your city may survive. But if your water is piped in from somewhere else and the system dies, no amount of government aid is likely to be enough. People will get thirsty and then you've got trouble.

If you do stay, you need a water filter. A good one. Or atleast the knowledge to improvise one as needed. Because guaranteed, there will be dumbasses bathing and shitting in that water supply. Apart from that, and apart from the anarchists who want to burn down Georgia because they're bored, I don't see why the city would be a worse survival choice than a cave in the woods.

It was a good thread to start, but we gotta vector away from this Yay or Nay crap. It's dumb. There should only be one discussion, which bugging out or in would entirely be dependent upon. And that is a list of five reasons of disaster. Of course the list would vary, from region to region. Some are more real, than others.

Training for the bug out is not idiotic or futile, it is a sign of respect to all the places and people in the world affected by natural disaster, war, and famine. It is a practice of tribute, acknowledgement, and thanks. Can you imagine how many people would be alive and well if everyone had a bug out bag?? How many families have perished to disease and violence from not being able to not afford one?

We should be thankful, we can afford to be able to.

Also, during the ice storm in Toronto... I live in the downtown core, the power didn't go out once because people would become violent. The populace is too dense. But that's natural disaster, not an occupation, so again, everything varies.

Has anyone noticed that everyone is migrating to the city anyways? By 2075 most of Ontario will be living in the GTA. Most of Canada will be in the GTA. All the parents I know are HACKING it trying to live outside Toronto. So economic times ARE harsh outside this city, generation after generation will be coming here.

And THIS is why it's important to learn homesteading. Because why would I prepare or grow anything when I can get whatever I wan, when I want it. It's the dependency, of it. And when times are tough you realize oh crap I am surrounded by millions of people who are absolutely useless.

During the ice storm the wealthiest people in the city were in the cold in the dark, and no, none of them prepared for it. I would see them bringing their food to work to put in the fridge, lacking the common sense of putting it outside in a bin. This is how useless these people are.

Despite how long I am here for I will never forget my upbringing. I despair the day when my family sells the farm and I am finally forced to accept that my apartment is my farm. It will be a sad day.

Topping my list of likely scenarios are EMPs from solar flares, and economic collapse. Anything beyond that is just as likely as anything else. Honestly though, I don't see a bugout bag as a guaranteed lifesaver in any situation unless your neighborhood is literally about to burn down.