When I first came to this forum, my goals might have been the same as many others. I thought this would be a place to share one's knowledge and insights with others while obtaining some of their knowledge in return. I understand that caution is required because this is an open forum and Big Brother likely has eyes and ears open to all said and shown here. I find myself conversing with equals and both lesser and more qualified in various fields as I too expected. What I never considered was the organization required to cover all the aspects that this forum can cover.
I now see that many consider the only way to prep is to "BUG IN and reenact Custer's last stand" or "BUG OUT" without much forethought as to the When, Why's and Where's. Seems much said is still cloudy in their minds with some sprinkles of vague planning but not specifics to long term existence. I hope they note these follies when reading from those who can see further than they can.
I want to discover a means of sharing collected data amongst others without fear of retribution because something may be considered copyrighted and therefore withheld. We cannot post a simple PDF file on this forum do to that possibility and I understand this. What I want is suggestions as to how we can further this process of sharing amongst ourselves while avoiding these traps....
Can you imagine the valuable knowledge regarding all aspects of prepping each of us can obtain from this endevour should we find a solution to this
matter? To some, this knowledge is to be hoarded and sold at a price as any commodity while others view sharing knowledge as a sign of good faith in their fellow man. I too believe that many folks will be less likely to turn on one another in the event of a crisis if they see there are other possible alternatives to choose from. Being better prepared for such events means the less likelihood that you will have to consider violence as a solution.
So how do we accomplish this sharing process? We need a location to upload files to as a file server. This means that it requires public access by others and that someone is likely to have to be responsible for the contents posted at that location.
NOTE: A simple walk-around to this possibility of being liable may be that each file must be zipped and password protected. The password must be acquired from someone and that again makes that individual complicit when revealing the access. Therefore the access code should simply be something that members could easily guess without incriminating anyone. As far as I understand copyrights, they are to protect the owners from others making a profit off of their work...(ie:no profit, unlikely to pursue into a courtroom as that pursuit too requires money) but there is the consideration that they might have lost money due to your posting it publicly!
This is what I have thought of so far! I am not absolute in my above conclusions but am open to suggestion on how to further this goal...
YOUR TURN....
Unfortunately there isn't anything on the internet that the government can't read. If you try to make something covert they'll just read it faster.
You may be trying to reinvent the wheel. Periodically we share large prepper data bases. Many PDF prepper libraries are next to useless...but...
this is a good one.
http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/CD3WD/INDEX.HTM .
maybe it would be good to discuss with Denob setting up a new section solely to PDF uplodes of recordable knowledge, for us to point people to for uploads.
The problem is not, not enough knowledge, but , too much. Its hard to sort through what to keep. Online preppers are very much Otaku, in a Japanese expression of this.
Any information source really needs 3/4 cut out of it of useless information. Besides, I have slow bandwidth.
I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.
Ya, we've been talking about it already.
Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ. Hopefully we are the great minds and not the...you know...
I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.
The problem is not, not enough knowledge, but , too much. Its hard to sort through what to keep. Online preppers are very much Otaku, in a Japanese expression of this.
Any information source really needs 3/4 cut out of it of useless information. Besides, I have slow bandwidth.
And that is how we should approach this endevour. We need to likely have a dumping grounds. Others can come in and work on a file, reduce it's content into fact only... Cant stress enough how quickly one can brows point form and it keeps you very restricted while creating such a document ...the finished product is minimalist sized with easy quick at a glance absorption of the material. I have reduced almost anything I collect down to 1/10 it's size. The time spent most is in rewording sentences to join this part to that so things still makes proper sense to the reader. It can then be organized into it's proper place in the library for other to read when researching that subject. It's always this "Mine & Yours" attitude that restricts the sharing of knowledge. If the article is already on the web for viewing, it's contents are already accessible to the masses. The original authors dispute usually stems from lack of recognition and in this case, maybe the fact that someone had the audacity to delete their long drawn out insights on each minor detail.(not like I go on and on....! 🙄 )
I know it's not the file sharing and editing you guys are talking about, but here are a couple of existing compilations to wade through...
http://www.fastonline.org/CD3WD_40/CD3WD/INDEX.HTM
Not all in English, especially "below the fold"; most ag based
http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html
A variety of information on the left sidebar
http://www.armageddononline.org/disaster-prep-help.html
Another big compilation of wide-ranging topics for various periods and types of disaster, broken down by category
http://ready4itall.org/the-free-preppers-library/
Free book downloads, varying topics
http://www.stevespages.com/page7c.htm
U.S. military manuals available for free download
And for the ones who'd rather surf and browse offline: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261383452310?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
A guy has amassed a huge library and offers it on DVD for $12 USD (shipped). He just opened it to the UK, Canada, and Australia. They can be found online for free, mostly, although some sites that were original sources or maintained the copies may be gone, if you want to save the money and spend the time, but it makes a nice alternative and my time is worth more than $12 an hour and certainly worth the hours of searching them out, although some are repeats I already had when I ordered his original $10 set. An offline library is nice to have and this is a nice start.
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I will say that this type of information needs to be
- to the point
- ready for printing
- organized
- useful and easy to understand
I also think that there is still the need for a master manual or book ,
I've been looking on amazon for something,
because if the power goes out, you might not have access to all your pdf
and if you have not printed all of them , you will have no information.
I will say that this type of information needs to be
- to the point
- ready for printing
- organized
- useful and easy to understandI also think that there is still the need for a master manual or book ,
I've been looking on amazon for something,
because if the power goes out, you might not have access to all your pdf
and if you have not printed all of them , you will have no information.
I had thought long and hard on that detail when I came up with using the Nook EReader. http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/nook-touch.html (hard to find new now) I chose it due to it's 3-4 week period between charges if you leave it on. It fully recharges in a bout 3 hours. You can read it in bright sunlight or by a campfire. It accepts up to 8GB cards. It can be hacked to run both original Nook software or Android. It cannot be tracked as it only connects wireless to internet. It accepts Mico SD cards so you can pull the info off your phone if need be. I converted all files to pdf as a standard format so I can read them in my laptop, phone, tablets, etc. It's not fast but is slim as a notepad. At $50 it was an easy solution to this issue. I want to have spares for barter and backup yet. The newer color version doesn't last near as long between charges.
So most of us collect knowledge regarding basic survival skills, knowing much has been forgotten in these modern times. We do so in event that SHTF and we may not have ready access to this forgotten knowledge in bad times. Most of us readily carry cell phones which could hold this knowledge, but some fear it's potential ability to betray us in bad times ahead. Is it therefore only logical to have other means of accessing this knowledge. Since only those who come to this forum will collect data from this forum, you will likely have gathered a renewable source of barter with others, should you prepare properly to consider this a pursueable option. Even suggesting to others that you hold such knowledge might be an enticement for them to kill you and just take this knowledge. So how do you keep share without getting dead? Data encryption is available to protect files from theft along with other strategic plans you can concoct to protect yourself from simply taking what you hold. Pre-planning for these events would cover too much ground here, so I will try to stick with possible sharing techniques instead.
Cellphones are the obvious solution to this dilemma. Almost everyone has one. Androids accept microSD cards which means one could either sell your complete collection to another for a large trade or just selling of one article at a time could be better for a long term trading relationship. Since others would require power, having small foldable solar cell panels would be an invaluable item of trade too for recharging their small devices. The logical thing is to only offer such things to those whom have something you need yourself. To set up this kind of system, you need to consider certain options.
Cellphones:
1. Android is best (unless you convert to Linux cell software when they finally finish it) as it is open source code. This means that you can "root" the phone and control all aspects of it so it is secure.
2. Make sure the model has a microSD slot for expansion and ease of file swapping.(iphones don't have this ability)
3. Make sure that it has a replaceable battery so backups can be swapped out.(iphones don't have this ability)
4. keep your old phones with these above features for backups (or barter if needed)
5. Buy spare cords as they are usually first item to fail
6. Store in ziplock baggy when not in use during these bad times.
E-Reader
1. I consider this the most useful during bad times due to it's low power consumption and easy readability in direct sunlight.
2. Android adaptability is a definite plus as it makes the unit mulri-functional
3. Make sure the model has an microSD slot for expansion and ease of file swapping.(many don't have this ability)
4. These are only good for reading reference material. They do not function well as an editor or even for copying data.
6. Store in ziplock baggy when not in use during these bad times.
Tablets
1. Android is best for many of the same reasons listed under cellphones.
2. Make sure the model has an microSD slot for expansion and ease of file swapping.(iPads don't have this ability)
3. Purchase without cell phone option built in and tether if needed. This allows for secure use without betraying tracked. That is if unit is rooted and GPS is securely off. EReader is priority over tablet for prepping IMO.
4. This unit is required to move, sort, edit & copy files. It is far more usefull over a laptop due to its lower power consumption and more secure than a Windows PC these days.
5. Look for tablet with standard USB ports as it allows more expansion to use such as an external keyboard for quicker function(IR keyboards kill battery quicker).
6. 10" screen is a better choice than 7" as it allows less zooming time on documents.
7. Store in ziplock baggy when not in use during these bad times.
Adaptability
1. purchase spare microSD cards for backup or barter
2. purchase spare USB jumpdrives for backup or barter
3. purchase spare cables for connecting and charging as these are the first to usually screw up.
I did not mention computers here and i will do another separate thread of what to consider in this area.
I need a big screen reader , have poor eyesight and I don't want to enlarge to such an extent that there
is only a few words on the screen and continually tapping next next next next .
What happens when one is in an area with no cell phone service, like I do.
What happens when one is in an area with no cell phone service, like I do.
Cell service is not required to call up files that you keep on your phone. In many SHTF scenarios, electrical power is not even an option. But your cell could still be used to store knowledge instead of just tossing it away. Most times it would be powered off completely. Recharging is an ability likely possessed by those who thought ahead. Also knowing ones limitations such as poor eyesight needs to be addressed too. Even EReaders can magnify text to get the job done, no matter how annoying it is to have to scroll around. They are not near as intuitive as a tablet, but they win hands down with the 3-4 weeks between charging.
Power consumption is the main issue as most of us presently use far more electricity than we could ever obtain thru solar and wind power alone. Those prepper's situated in a fairly safe location will have both solar panels and wind power setups. This will provide them with a better standard of living then many others but those solar panels will also paint a gigantic target on their locale as a place to hit.
The equipment listed above is both mobile and low power consumption. They could be recharged by small foldable solar panels sold at your local Crappy Tire. The knowledge you collect has the potential to save you and yours in the event of SHTF. It should cover everything from hunter/gather articles to in depth first aid procedures, from gardening to blacksmithing. The EReader or (even cell phone) should be one of your most valuable possessions due to this ability to train you to survive in a harsh new world. I am just presenting a means of not trying to print tons of data that one cannot carry or access quickly.
This may only be a temporary means of retaining knowledge as batteries will likely fail within 5 years. But in that 5 years, you can learn and teach others that which you learned, instead of others trying to decipher your words scratched on some cave wall.... 😆 A prepper covers as many avenues as they see possible to cover - this is but one!
I know it's not the file sharing and editing you guys are talking about, but here are a couple of existing compilations to wade through...
http://www.fastonline.org/CD3WD_40/CD3WD/INDEX.HTM
Not all in English, especially "below the fold"; most ag basedhttp://standeyo.com/News_Files/Hollys.html
A variety of information on the left sidebarhttp://www.armageddononline.org/disaster-prep-help.html
Another big compilation of wide-ranging topics for various periods and types of disaster, broken down by categoryhttp://ready4itall.org/the-free-preppers-library/
Free book downloads, varying topicshttp://www.stevespages.com/page7c.htm
U.S. military manuals available for free downloadAnd for the ones who'd rather surf and browse offline: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261383452310?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
A guy has amassed a huge library and offers it on DVD for $12 USD (shipped). He just opened it to the UK, Canada, and Australia. They can be found online for free, mostly, although some sites that were original sources or maintained the copies may be gone, if you want to save the money and spend the time, but it makes a nice alternative and my time is worth more than $12 an hour and certainly worth the hours of searching them out, although some are repeats I already had when I ordered his original $10 set. An offline library is nice to have and this is a nice start.
(Sorry if I'm
These are some excellent links...I have been going over them all and wish to restate them here...thanks MresPrep!