Thinking about bugging out?

Great read, thank you Gravlore

Pretty much my take on it. Bug out only if you have a destination you can reach and is viable for the time needed. I don't have a bug out bag by the general definition, but my vehicles have always had break down kits. Seasonal clothing, snacks, spare radiator hose, fan/altenator belt and other basic fixit stuff. We have slept in the car at -30C without issue during winter road trips. Used to live in the boonies and old habits die hard. If I cannot make it where I am, I'm done anyways and I just don't give a hoot. The part that confuses me, is why the person that wrote that article, thinks he/she cannot raise enough food at his little cabin in the woods. It can be, and has been done, many times over.

Right on OddDuck.I was always wandering (if you live in rural) why you want to go to unknown territory.In known surroundings you know which side of your position is safe ,which side to watch for attack to defend.In my case I know every path ,every road almost every tree, every abandoned house and empty cottage.Why would I put myself into more dangerous position by going into unknown.
I would love to hear some closer description of bug out from people from bigger city.With big bag on your back walking trough the city streets for hours and hours (very dangerous) and than hopefully get to the edge of city and WHAT? For people living in rural area you are danger and enemy.Plus there are hundreds of people trying to do the same thinks.I am still talking summer time , do not even think winter.
henry

Good stuff. I was looking for a way to bring this artical up. Its actually only one of a four part series. He is a long winded writer and beats the issue to death so sometimes hard to read unless you are board. Included in the series is ,"The Bug Out Bullshit Test" and buy the end of the series he takes things quite far even going as far to encourage a time when small towns will have to smoke them out and kill these new feral humans that will become a threat to outlying farms.

Im going to try to do a number crunching article soon on how fast all speicies will go extinct in North america after a crash. Example 25 million deer in the US. 300 million people. Every one that has even red a book on the outdoors will have the same plan. I figure deer will become extinct, never to return within a month. Much longer but just as inevetible in a Slow Crash

My mistake. 5 part series. Hopefully this makes it easier to find. Jeez, Im becoming a real survival Otaku, ar'nt I.

http://survivalacres.com/blog/the-fallacy-of-bugging-out/
http://survivalacres.com/blog/the-fallacy-of-bugging-out-part-ii/
http://survivalacres.com/blog/bob-the-reality/
http://survivalacres.com/blog/survival-acres-survivalist-challenge-putting-the-bullshit-to-the-test/
http://survivalacres.com/blog/surviving-the-horde/

If you can read it all in one sitting, You are a better man than I....or at least a more obsessive man :geek:

The part that confuses me, is why the person that wrote that article, thinks he/she cannot raise enough food at his little cabin in the woods. It can be, and has been done, many times over.

I can only assume he is either heavily wooded, has crappy/limited soil, no skill to have a large garden or maybe it was to prove a point that gardening is hard work.

Thanks Cer.

I grew up in the interior of BC on the last land set aside for the homestead act by the BC government. Heavily wooded and crappy soil would pretty much define the situation. Axing out stumps and picking sticks was the all the life I knew as a kid aside from digging the never ending potato patch.

I now have a farm here in Ontario and every time I look at the bigass rocks piled in the fence rows and still hit one every now and then with my haybine one hundred years later, and say unlady like things when trying to plant fence posts, I feel I led a charmed life as a kid. Who on earth, could have come to the Canadian Shield, looked at a boulder strewn land also covered in trees with only a bare minimum of top soil amongst them and thought "here's a nice piece of farm land; I think we'll stay here". Makes me quit bitchin and get on with it.

Basically what hes saying is everyone thats not at their BOL already is Doomed no matter what? Rather confused i guess, sometimes when i read long articles i miss the punch line.
What i got was -
- dont go into the woods with just a BOB! Agreed !
- If JIT falls apart and no resupplies happen everyone is doomed! id say thats true for alot of the population but not all IMO.

He did make alot of valid points, like i said i think i missed the real punchline.

Basically what hes saying is everyone thats not at their BOL already is Doomed no matter what? Rather confused i guess, sometimes when i read long articles i miss the punch line.
What i got was -
- dont go into the woods with just a BOB! Agreed !
- If JIT falls apart and no resupplies happen everyone is doomed! id say thats true for alot of the population but not all IMO.

He did make alot of valid points, like i said i think i missed the real punchline.

Ya, Like I said, his writing style blows...but this series is in my top 10 recomended reads...and read the entire 5 parts because that is usualy what it takes to beat this belief sytem to death. Whats the punch line? can you guess? Its basicly the exact same thing you here me saying over and over and over....and over ...wile being mocked. Ill continue to badger the point for the same reason. Here is the punch line in the end of part 5. I quote,
"Breaking It Down
Alone, you don’t stand a chance.
Only a group can secure their perimeter indefinitely, and even replace lost sentries, or go after the snipers or raiders or repel attacks.
Or meet all their other needs in order to stay alive ‘indefinitely’.
Groups can also be pretty effective in stomping out evil. Individuals actually fair poorly in this particular fight.
You must form groups. Or join one. Or stay in the one you’ve already got.
Only groups can preserve civilization.
Only groups can repel the horde.
Only groups stand an honest and realistic chance of pulling through whatever happens.
Everybody else is destined to die. In unpleasant ways.
We need to preserve a civilization, not simply abandon it. Otherwise we are all alone, facing a truly terrifying future.
I cannot live without some kind of civilization to help me — and neither can you. None of us can. Therefore, we must find ways to preserve the essentials if it does falter further. The only path ahead to do that is to work it out — together. Those that do will be the survivors. Those that won’t or refuse, will die, because in reality, they cannot survive without us, without civilization. They will either die out (die off) or be wiped out. These are the “horde”, which has no future, no hope, nothing going for them at all.
Your only alternative is to position yourselves firmly against them, together — divorcing yourselves from becoming part of the horde. You cannot do this alone. Nobody can. You need us and we need you. Working together to meet our daily survival needs, ensuring we are watching each others back, taking care of all of our concerns and requirements. We are civilization when we are together, and we will need to do our level damnedest to ensure that some of it survives"

There, That said, Im now ready for the next bunch to make fun of me.

I grew up in the interior of BC on the last land set aside for the homestead act by the BC government. Heavily wooded and crappy soil would pretty much define the situation. Axing out stumps and picking sticks was the all the life I knew as a kid aside from digging the never ending potato patch.

I now have a farm here in Ontario and every time I look at the bigass rocks piled in the fence rows and still hit one every now and then with my haybine one hundred years later, and say unlady like things when trying to plant fence posts, I feel I led a charmed life as a kid. Who on earth, could have come to the Canadian Shield, looked at a boulder strewn land also covered in trees with only a bare minimum of top soil amongst them and thought "here's a nice piece of farm land; I think we'll stay here". Makes me quit bitchin and get on with it.

If one were to bug out and go where you are currently, before you cleaned up the land and decide to plant a garden the next day is pure fantasy. It sounds like you made something from what would be looked at as wasteland for farming purposes and made it workable. In the context of bugging out and going to the shield there is a small possibility of someone planting a garden 2 days after bugging out. I think that was the point.