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Confronting Racism In Prepping

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(@anonymous)
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I was actually expecting more of a fight.
"We didn't get dressed up for nothing"

It's hard to have a fight when were all on the same side 😆

But I did find this as an eye opener to what folks say without forethought.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_PWU6K514



   
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(@jensen)
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I was actually expecting more of a fight.
"We didn't get dressed up for nothing"

Maybe the difference between you and I is that I am a mature individual with life experience and family obligations and you are a person who has lots of free time and who enjoys arguing and debating on the internet.

First off having seen some of your previous comments and your quick labelling people as capitalists etc I reserve the right to doubt whether you actually experienced racism here on this board or whether you just accused someone of racism as you disagreed with his or her views. I understand you see racism in many places as in this forum and by you explaining preppers as previously "old time racist survivalism". But I wonder if its actually real racism or just something else coming out in the form of racist accusations.

As for your questions in regards to whether I have seen a victim of a skinhead attack ?. Have I known anyone who has been beaten or killed or bombed for being gay or Hindu. As you don't know me I will educate you. I grew up in Europe. I was a partying throw the 90's so yes I have seen victims of skinhead attacks (Redskins as in Communist Skinheads), I have seen victims of National Socialist attacks, I saw my best friend after he beat up two gays hugging in a toilet (I was NOT impressed). I have not seen a Hindu being blown up though. I have seen people being shot in the streets and in the battlefield but not for racist view unless you believe their views to be racist. But I have lived in the worlds most racist country Saudi Arabia for 4 years. It may shock you that if you want to experience real racism you need to travel to a third world country. There you have it all. Beatings, slavery(yes slavery still exists although officially abolished in 1953 in Saudi Arabia) and a generally poor view on anyone from other religions, skin colors etc. Basically if you are not a Saudi Arab you are worthless. Real racism. Carried out every day.

In short I know about real Racism and I have reacted to it. But I don't frequent places where I see racism nowadays here in Canada. But I see a lot of Extremism and that is just as dangerous its just another skin on top of what we define Intolerance and Racism. I see it online, in daily politics, the media, peoples discussions etc. I also saw it in your post and to me an Extremist is no better than a Racist.

But I do worry about the misrepresentation you provide regarding preppers. I would not want someone interested in prepping getting sidetracked or discouraged by your personal crusade and threats of you going racist hunting in a shtf situation. Should we not provide the advice that there are more important things to do in a shtf situation ?, than to continue promoting political divide and violence which most likely will have put us in a shtf situation in the first place ?. So my request to you is to please tone down the rhetoric about the violence you want to perpetrate in a shtf situation. It does no good and it goes against my core prepping beliefs hence why I answered your OP.



   
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cernunnos5
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Well, I did have better things to do tonight but I might as well get on it. First off, I would have to go back over my earlier posts but I don't believe I have actually used the term "Capitalists" is any of my posts. I think you are confusing me with someone else responding to my posts. If it was referred to at all, it might have been reference to right wing death squads that "Disappeared" over 10 thousand in central and south America. If anything, I have told people to get off the leftright paradigm in prepping. Neither are useful to actual prepping
Next, after 911, there were several bombings here in Canada of Sikh temples and schools (The idiots couldn't even tell the difference between hindus and muslims)

Next, there will be a few people still here that remember the Justabear incident including the Moderators

Next, Much of the early survivalist movement was deeply tied to Racist militancy. It manly started disappearing from public view after Timothy McVeigh. The Arian Nations developed directly out of early survivalism and its ties to The Christian Patriots Defence League, The Identity Movement, and other militant arms of the KKK focused on survivalism.

The main reason we use the term "Prepper" today is because people wanted to disassociate themselves from the early overt racist attitudes associated with the term, "Survivalist". For your schooling in prepper history, The first use of the term prepper came from the Foxfire book series.

Now onto modern prepping. You will not go very far on many prepper sites or youtube, scrolling through the comments section before you find out just how many overtly racist comments and direct threats their are. Most hate based comments have subtly changed from Racism to Classism in a form of political correctness. As I have been doing this for a lot of decades, now, I am always pissed off when I go onto a site that is giving prepper skills or politics....and then 8 posts later, it turns out to be a "Nipster" from White Power...and its just a recruiting tool.

So...all the posters over at SHTF Plan, openly saying nigger, and that the best way to stop the riot is to dump basket balls, fried chicken and watermelons on the street...or that anyone caught on the street will have their free Obama phone and food stamps cut off.....with the overwhelming number of thumbs up support for each comment comments.....Huston, We have a problem.

...and four small towns over from me...there is an openly, colour flying, racist group. They may become a problem to the stability of the area post collapse. I will be watching them.
And buy the way, of my closer friends, one was on security detail for the Saudi King and another came over The Wall. As to my free time. I do this prepping thing full time. I often come to the computer to cool down between jobs on the farm retreat. I also don't have much to do during the winter after the harvest and preserving are done. Ive been doing this survivalist thing for over three and a half decades, now, if you are making comments about my maturity. I have seen it all from several different perspectives.


I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.


   
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cernunnos5
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In the spirit of peace making and de-escalation, I hear what you are saying about Toning down the rhetoric of returning violence to violence.


I have a Tactical Harness and I have a Tool Belt. The Tool Belt is more Useful.


   
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