I got this in an E-mail, I doubt its actually available for retail purchase its likely just something that someone creative whipped up in their basement but its definitely cool and would be perfectly legal to own. But I'm sure the authorities wouldn't be happy about it 🙂

Once in awhile something so totally cool comes out that even a guy who doesn't normally even know what he'd like for Father's Day or Christmas would immediately ask for it:

Its a Tricked Out DeWalt Nail Gun.

Words to live by.
http://www.defensivetraining.co.za/index_files/home/quotes.htm

Regarding self-defence in a lawless scenario I'm not too worried about the RCMP or the local cops. Who may be very busy with their own families. I am more worried about noise, looting the dead and clean-up. Just me though. I have been criticized for not respecting violent offenders' rights.

Regarding self-defence in a lawless scenario I'm not too worried about the RCMP or the local cops. Who may be very busy with their own families. I am more worried about noise, looting the dead and clean-up. Just me though. I have been criticized for not respecting violent offenders' rights.

What do you mean, you don't respect the rights of violent offenders. My group has discussed the rights of those who survive an attempt of trying to do harm to any part of our community. We have agree'd that we wouldn't just kill any and all who try to prey on our community. We would, instead, acknowledge their rights to two things. Subsistance living and heavy labour. I know that it's somewhat draconian but I wouldn't feel any warm fuzzy's toward anyone who tried to harm my family and friends. Besides, what are you going to do with someone who has tried to do you harm, give them a stern talking to and send them down the road to try again at a later date.
I am of course, talking about a SHTF situation where there is no rule of law. If there are any out there who think that it would never come to that, take a look at New Orleans when Katrina hit. Even though they knew that the government would come in to help, however slow. With the looting and violence, the city and surrounding area was a war zone within three days. A lot of people will say that it was the gangs and they're right. At least that's where it started, but even cops were caught looting and committing violence against citizens.

Regarding self-defence in a lawless scenario I'm not too worried about the RCMP or the local cops. Who may be very busy with their own families.quote]

you say this, plenty of single, younger cops out there at the moment....they'll be in....i have a young family, but my wife and i have agreed if the three of them are safe on the farm i will be going into work...(10 minute drive station...i can get back in under 4 mins in a cruiser)....two reason for that, first, i swore 21 years ago that i would do my best to uphold the law protecting people who cant protect themselves, and as long as my family are not in danger i will do just that....second, resources! i will be provided with food, water, fuel, ammo by both the provinical and federal goverments. during the petrol (gas) stirkes in the UK back in 2000 i was a sergeant in the Metropolitan Police Service, London, England....no one could get fuel, it was a mess. i was in my home town, about 400 miles away from London when it all kicked off...i went to the gas station, showed my badge, filled up, drove half way to work, stopped at another gas station, showed my badge filled up....the goverment told all gas station to reserve one pump for emergency services...fire, ems and police...they had a plan and don't think they dont have one now. they recognize they need certain people to get into work.

but you don't have to 'worry about the cops' in relation to self defence. thats why its called 'self defence'. protecting your family or property is a good thing for people to do as long as its done lawfully...

carbon04 said:

i will be provided with food, water, fuel, ammo by both the provinical and federal goverments.

Man I laughed. Back in the day when we were out in the field getting shot at or shit on we used to cheer each other up by saying, "I'm from Ottawa. I'm here to help."

I'm not referring to a local distrubance like a Winnipeg flood, Quebec power outages, BC forect fires, Burns Lake tragedies ot the like. Those are get safe and help the others out. I thought that was obvious. But notice your response; Your family first. Didn't you swear an oath? At what point does your family's safety over-ride your oath? If it's a regional thing get them safe and help out. I agree and exactly what I will do. In a global scenario, it's still family first for the Police. Which I'm fine with by the way. The Rule of Law has be binned in this country a while ago.

As for the hard labour routine, how do you feed them and how do you secure them? I don't see that as a viable option and a bit reprehensible but I'm willing to hear your side of it.

I referred instead to a societal collapse. It will be completely different from a disaster scenario. This is why people prepare for the inevitable. I'm not worried about self-defence too much. I have some wonderful 'inter-personal' skills after years of hard training.

carbon04 said:

i will be provided with food, water, fuel, ammo by both the provinical and federal goverments.

Your family first. Didn't you swear an oath? At what point does your family's safety over-ride your oath?.

the second i think they're in danger the 'Oath' is out the window. thats the way it is. ive done 21 years of trying to protect people i dont know and people who dont particularly like me because i wear a uniform....all over the world....in places youve never heard of. anyway, if anything happened to my family id be a basket case and pretty useless anyways...thats the way it is...

Let's see, in a global societal collapse where rule of law no longer applies. You have caught a predator who tried to harm your family and friends. Now Mokonotora, you say that subjecting said predator to hard labour is reprehensible. You could tie him up and what, cut his throat or maybe make it quick and shoot him. Or, you could give him a stern lecture and let him go to maybe come back later with more friends and possibly finish the job.
To me, executing him outright would NOT be my moral choice. On the other hand, giving him a dirty look and kicking his ass down the road would be the height of stupidity. What I could do is tell him that we aren't going to kill him but we can't let him go. So if he wants food and shelter he's going to work for it and after what he just tried to do, he's going to work hard, and yes, on pretty much any farm you can always find a way to secure him.
Anyway, that's my side of it.

i uses stun gun for my protection.. a while ago i was using a pepper spray but i was shoot to it directly to my eyes.. that i have a phobia on it now.. wish this stun gun wont hit me at all..lol

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Where to buy stun guns to stun someone..

I also use stun gun for i can bring it were ever i go..
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I have found this website useful, along with people watching. It's amazing what you will notice if your thumbs are hanging out of your pocket instead of on your Blackberry.

With practice, situational awareness becomes second nature. At first you feel paranoid, and silly, but in reality you are prepared.

http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/five_stages.html
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/pyramid.html

Thanks Northern VVolf - I'm printing out that info!

For those who would rather move about low tech, learn how to use a walking stick for defense. Not good against a gun unless your very practiced, but against a knife, you have the extra distance. With the proper cane head, you have a pointed hooked weapon, or a mace head.

http://www.earthworks.com/martialart/canes/

I think, if/when a collapse come, the quarter staff will make a return for travelers. The travelers quarter staff, is typically the same height as the person wielding it. It can have metal sheathed ends and middles for protection against metal edged weapons, (long knives and axes).

Like "Little John" from Robin Hood? 😯

Yup. 😉

Head high metal tipped staff's are going to be too heavy and clumsy for "smaller people" to wave about like Little John did! I've cut my "staff" to chest high so that I've still got reach without getting too close (but I think I'm getting "Rambo" muscles practising with it!) 🙄 If someone comes at me with an axe...I am running! 😯