Ukraine hunger in Donetsk

Seems there are finally some videos from the east again ...

- Ukraine military again firing on Slavyansk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByz9Db4Zkk

- South front: Ukrainian forces fire upon OSCE observers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJomf3QjmNU

- South Front: OSCE states 4000 killed in east Ukraine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyEbxP5AaU
the difference is this video mentions the thousands wounded also and that is someone our news always seems to leave out.

- and Ukraine forces start their assault upon the east in earnest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuAQMM-otw8

- Press TV: drones used to surveil the area and correct for artillery fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1Nu-8HWqc
Seems the rebels are getting some high tech toys too. Note it looks like a US military drone with ASUS laptop? Russian supplied?

- Ukraine Today: regions of Donetsk suffer from power failure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YNKnRlukhU
Really? IS this some sort of attempt to make their plight look less bad as they portray something trivial as a power outage that many of us have faced? Most don't have a house to heat and are presently hiding in shelters from the shelling. They show that they are offering water to some as a gesture of kindness. Stopping the shelling would be a far better gesture I'd think.

IS Something BIG Brewing?

There is alot of buildup by the Ukraine army and the news media is constantly trying to convince the public that Russia is up to something... meanwhile..

- War in Ukraine: shows the destruction left after new shelling upon Donetsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8gjXoZxKTQ
note the lack of body armor as it often makes it easy to see who is on which side.

- CNN: shows a hospital in the east https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNLybzzEms
an amazing thing for CNN to show that only Russia is supplying this hospital to help those in the east. I do note that they only focus on a child with asthma instead of those many others maimed by this crisis and shown elsewhere in other videos. These hospitals also have alot of critical patients due to the soldiers having no bullet proof vest as the enemy has.

- War in Ukraine: another video showing equipment and ammo left by the retreating Ukraine army. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUZsbeZT8Is
Another good watch. From damages shown, one has to admit that the rebels give them a hell of a scrap! The UA seems to leave alot of equipment behind upon retreat. Makes you wonder why this is so common? The stockpiles of ammo left are immense...

- Press TV: Ukraine accuses Moscow or cross border shelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10nyFyiwjRc

- RT News: this is analysis used to debunk last accusations of the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiJ_K86NQY0
one has to also note that at no time did the US state that these images were authentic, but just allowed the media to play up this atrocity instead knowing if it is played enough times, it is then viewed as truth anyways.

Anti-Maidan: priest of the east ask those of the west for help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxbT985Lp4Y
various priests state that food is short and the people need anything the west can offer. If the world ignores these pleas now as winter sets in, then you know Satan has our leaders in his grip

- Ukraine Army shelling kills 8 when hitting public market https://www.youtube.com/results?filters=today&search_query=ukraine&page=4
they counter with stating they lost 7 soldiers fighting the rebels

- Press TV: Ukraine uses Incendiary weapons again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlwhrRkpCmQ

- Ukraine Today: complains about Russia's 8th aid convoy to the east https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu4IRWYcmq8
They offer nothing to the west and yet criticize Russia for having compassion they don't have

- News World: check out how the UA has destroyed Semenivka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nHvMtkmmnM
it's like they hit every house in town, amazing to do so

- War in Ukraine: present strategic map of frontline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqsayn25vY
Caution: This also shows the dead civilians and children from the constant Ukraine Army shelling. And all the lies they tell us daily doesn't hide this disgusting fact!

- WarLeaks: UA artillery fired day and night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_xcbNv3uDQ
the night images show x10 outgoing versus incoming yet later show a direct hit on their local. This seesm to be a good demonstration of quantity vs quality shooting

- Ukraine Today: states 1/2 million people displaced by war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmXsV41WGYo
seems they are only counting those the west support...they forget to mention that OSCE had noted Russia was supporting almost a million refugees back in October.

- seems that UA has recaptured Slovyansk and thus give the people some aid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoMBuAshkxg
2 loaves each, that's it...yet they suggest they will win the people over with this gesture of kindness. You think they won't remember that these same folks are the ones shelling and starving them?

- News TV: Ukraine army tortures civilians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54M9vDO5xiY
shows masked soldiers displaying beaten and tied prisoners. An easy way to know who is who is to note which soldiers have body armour as even the rebels leaders seem to have little. Swollen cheek bones verify the beatings given.

- seems Ukrainians want to record their dirty deeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-D6LgwizI
3rd part in a series proving the systematic shelling of civilians in the east. Soldiers confess the UA promises 30 years in prison if they don't fight those in the east

Well I am going to nickname you sunshine after that last vid, its always amazing just how red blood can be, it should be watched along side that chris martin podcast that c5 just put up.
Not that it maters really, its not like people here give a damn or will do anything, or even could do anything if they gave a damn.
Fools really, taking the time to record mortor strikes and artillery barages, thinking those firing will stop because of the damage they are doing...soldeirs do there job period..

couple things may be missed that should be pointed out...first you hear how they complain about being bombed in the market, going to work, how what they have worked for is being destroyed..The donbass industrial base contains much heavy industry..these people work hard for what they have..in fact there is a lot of resentment to those in the west part of the country, as they are seen as not really doing for themselv's, not working and contributing (tax's)as much to their country. Taking from the Donbass area for themselves and not giving back..you could say much like we in Alberta view Quebec. Right or wrong there is this historical grievence, and now to add irony to it they see the people they have supported now send rockets and artillery back as a thank you.
When the country was in its worst shape (not that its great now) pre 2000 period and could not pay for gas Russia threatened to cut off gas but didnt, infact the smelting furnace's of Donetsk were kept hot by free gas from Russia...I was told that had the gas been cut off and the furnaces cooled, they would have been destroyed. People remember who helped them when they are down, and it wasnt the west.
You will also note the importance of papers, even amounst the dead they round up their papers (passport), sort of a hold over from communist times where you could not even get on a bus or train without showing your papers, you would have to produce your papers on demand at any time, it was how the state controlled you, without papers you could do nothing..not get a flat..not work...not travel..not do anything...its quaint really, we are so much more advanced here...same show me your papers type of control, just hidden and much more electronic.
Now it wasnt really thinkable a year or so ago that these two would be fighting each other, you could have asked anyone east or west and they would have said not possible.. They know well the cost of war..the people despite their problems didnt want to fight each other, little did they know that what they want is irrelevent. I fully expect action from Russia on this, and without warning...I maybe wrong but I just cant imagine them not moving in, in mass when whole cities are being rolled with grad rocket fire. Now Ukraine has no choice, they have to kill in mass or drive out everyone they can or else they will leave a base for partisan fighters...for decades to come. I am sure they are getting good advice on just how best to do that.

Just reread that, "good advice" thats a missnomer if there ever was one.

Yes. It seems that sometimes a little shock therapy is what is required to awaken the conscience. That last link was quite gruesome but I posted it because it shows the dirty side of this war. I often suspected those firing the artillery were somehow ignorant of the potential for killing of civilians in their job. This video shows them using drones to confirm their targeting and thus removes any doubt of such things. They are intentionally hitting civilian targets and thus killing civilians.

When was this an endevour in the past? Oh ya, Vietnam, Korea, Hiroshima, and every other war in which the US was involved. Seems we ignored the killing then too.. so is fighting for democracy just an illusion then? It seems the rebels are fighting for freedom while the Ukranians are fighting for enslavement in reality 😯

- RT News: the 8th convoy arrives in Donetsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTFSZM8ca2o
800 tons of supplies. Note the flash showing some sort of officials are taking pics of their contents. Russia now even have reporters film to verify the trucks are empty upon return to Russian territory.

- Ukraine Today: here is the west's story on these convoys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNcoOOhqv4
seems they still play the card that Russia supplies weapons thru these convoys

- Euromaidan: demand for humanitarian aid is high https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B__4EnAeAdE
I don't think so many people would line up in the cold if they really didn't have to.

- Press TV: rebels fire artillery back at enemy
remember the guns they captured earlier? Seems they found a use for them...

- Press TV: rebels fire from residential area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSEVfYiv130
this is so wrong as it gives the UA justification to claim they have reason to shoot at residential districts. In their defense, this may be AU instead as I have seen footage that a large contingent of artillery has moved in Donetsk here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqgADOQ9ONg

Ukraine Today: UA claims they are not allowed to shoot at rebels hiding in residential areas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Y2f7Ep4BU
Really, they just seem to hit them all the time anyways, right?

- Press TV: aerial footage from Ukraine drone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELRpzz4FYM
I post this mainly to show the capabilities of the Ukraine army. With this capability, they have can hit targets accurately if they wish to.

Cease Fire Talks to be Held on Dec.9

Nice, Ukraine is willing to talk again.....or are they?

- claims Poroshenko will honour ceasefire on Dec 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Adt13P-n04

- Press TV: Kiev welcomes home soldiers from the front lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbVdwRWrw5E
not the most heartwarming parade I must say. Is this crowd rallying behind their soldiers or just going thru the motions?

Meanwhile....

- South Front: the east notes UA buildup on various fronts and prepare for a heavy assault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC6zGbmShbs

- Anti-Maidan: rebels show off their new presents from the UA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmpJMwOSIIU

- Ukraine News: reporters travel around with rebels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYQhxnISclM
note the Russian body armor and they try out many Russian weapons. The envoy is better protected than any rebels I have seen to this point. Either these soldiers are with the reporters or at least some are now being outfitted by Russia with body armor.

- Ukraine Army advancing to the frontlines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh0vYhcZV54
This is far heavier tanks and artillery than used before. Note the size increase? Seems the rebels are again outgunned and their body armour is no match for this armament.

- ABC News: Russia and Ukraine clash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6NhrfrcIzc
note that the title suggests Russian intervention while the reporter "assumes" that their strike force is going to take back that which has been seized by pro-Russian forces..he doesn't mention that they are just defending their homes as they fight to hold the Donetsk airport so they can't shell the city anymore. And then they blame Moscow for this action.... pathetic reporting as there is no evidence ever given while the Ukraine army gains strength from NATO donations.

- RT News: Poreshenko gives the UA their new weapons to win with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv1UapLzBiQ
In his speech he said"We have reached a preliminary agreement that the meeting in Minsk will be held on December 9. Ukraine sets several tasks - the approval of a schedule of implementation and realisation of Minsk arrangements, meaning that on December 9 a day of an artillery silence is to be held, and over 30 days we have to accomplish the line of demarcation specified in Minsk protocol. "

I'd say that Poroshenko is only getting ready to do battle instead! I'm betting that the peace talks will consist only of some major threats to then justify Ukraine taking this battle to a new level as to end this conflict for good as he states they only have 30 days....why is that anyway?

So what will Russia do in the meantime? Will they just watch as the east is annihilated as Putin mentioned that he won't allow this to happen. But the attacking forces are only Ukrainians so far with NATO supplied weaponry. You can see that this is the push expected to bring Russian interference for all EU countries to see. Meanwhile NATO's first strike forces await commands on the border of Poland....

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode.....

cease fire= time to reload

- Ukraine equipment goes to the front https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L07Z6o-L9Ec
seems no one ever mentions the color of the tanks being different. I'd bet that this is equipment given to Ukraine by other countries. It is still of Russian and Ukrainian design because they are manufacturers and had sold them previously to their neighbours.

- Red Cross brings supplies to Crimea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONPzYZtQadQ
why not then too to east Ukraine? Crimea is blocked off for access to roads also for import. Since all the boxes state Russian text, maybe they are from Russia's Red Cross

- Euro News: hundreds of veteran Chechen fighters volunteer to support the rebels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIK5s3KkpRk

RT News: shows the rebels repairing more tanks and APC's taken from the enemy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-u89y0DO0

- South Front: today's news events including US train load of military vehicles spotted near Russia's border https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE45k6NtVqQ

Trying to find items to post is getting harder each day as censorship seems to reduce postings of anything that might be aimed against the US agenda. Imagine what it is like for those in the US.

So How Fairs the People of the East in Winter?

- Ukraine Today: 9th aid convoy from Russia enters without government approval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpA_0YHBTzg
Ukraine complains as Russia sneaks in another shipment to help those in the east.

- Ukraine Today: complains about Russia planning 10th convoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJcR_hxR7PA
They continue the protest knowing well that those in the east receive no other aide. They mention that the trucks are not full without suggestion to payload weight. ie: a truckload of T/P weighs nothing bit a truckload of grain on pallets does as each bag likely weighs 100 lbs. Thus 2 pallets are a ton, 4 pallets 2 ton. Those trucks shown are 5 ton max. Loads are decent so they need better examples to complain. Also the more trucks used, the more generous Russia looks to the world.

- Press TV(Ukraine): Pro-Russian Army (PRA) fight for Donetsk Airport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ePrI5n1U5E
This footage shows that the PRA now have body armour and large insignia to help differentiate who is on which side in battle. Note this body armour is not familiar and therefore likely compliments of Russia.

- War Leaks: UA doing battle from within a BMP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQssASXlew
Here you get to see just how much of an imbalance there is as pro-Russian soldiers go up against tanks with only rifle and hand held RPG's. It seems that they even give the tanks a good fight too. I doubt their body armour is of little help here. If they had the tanks to meet these attackers, I'm sure they'd be using them instead.

- South Front: UN delegation to meet with Russia regarding refugee situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-_B7eWXkbc
their posting under another name to try circumventing censorship

- US Q & A period: RT's question about US sending weapons to Ukraine cut short ...as usual! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGmNe9PAJ0

Trying to find items to post is getting harder each day

don't sweat it. You can take a break now. You deserve it and you need it. We all do. 😎 🙄

This drop in oil revenue is a game changer...whatever russia was going to do, is doing or contimplated is certainly effected...this is going to kill any development in crimea, which was already going to be expensive without a land connection...not forseen at all...

This drop in oil revenue is a game changer...whatever russia was going to do, is doing or contimplated is certainly effected...this is going to kill any development in crimea, which was already going to be expensive without a land connection...not forseen at all...

How so? I thought that grabbing Crimea was strictly a defensive measure as they needed to maintain their fleet in the Black Sea and keep it as another trade route. Also a means of keeping submarines home and abroad too. And since the Black Sea borders Russia and must be held against invasion by water, above or below as missiles can be hidden otherwise by the enemy too. Maintaining the military base in Crimea is a strategic loss for Ukraine too as it further weakens their economy without it's assets. The majority of the people are Russian and showing unwillingness to defend them would have hurt Russia pride just as not helping those in eastern Ukraine likely does. I have speculated that Russia was just trying to wait out the US's inevitable economic collapse as compared to having war on your doorstep, which is never a good thing.

The west knew well that their interference in this region would cause such division as Ukraine seemed to have these divisions (which language barriers seems to best define) continually since their separation with Russia in the 1990's. This last trick where the US proclaimed that they would offer protection to Moldova as it stands alone with no way of Russia protecting them even though they have strong ties with Russia. They are indeed using Moldova as bait and pretending it to be an Allie of the US when Moldova is not even interested in the US or the EU trade deals.

This continued aggression by NATO shows them to be only wanting proper justification to initiate action, as they must look as if we want piece while to take this to the final step and proclaim war upon Russia.

It wont effect there military operations as such in Crimea, but Crimea is also far more than just a millitary post, there is a huge civilian infastructure...a infastructure that needs power, water, and even gas as the pipelines and power run through Ukraine...pensions that Ukraine has terminated now have to be carried by Russia...and lots of pensioners live there...these costs are going through the roof as the Rubble falls. Resupply costs for that civillian infastructure...is hurting Russia bad. With Putan and his kind having pillaged the russian econnomy for there own benifit there is not enough revenue from other business to fill in the short fall from oil revenue, and now the double wammy of a falling rubble it just gets ugly, but this just gets really ugly for the average Russian even worse....its way worse than the 98,99 fall of the Rubble as the average Russian wasnt in debt like they are now days, and now in debt denominated in forgien currency, while there earnings are in falling Roubles.