Ukraine, it just isnt going well..who would have thunk it

peppercorn · 2015-02-21T18:04:37Z

Well I guess they have a sort of cease fire, kinda...I have a stop watch who wants to bet on how long it will last?I have been trying to find out just how much money has been lent by the IMF to Ukraine sence this all started but its been hard to nail down the exact amount...it should be easy, as The IMF isn't supposed to loan any money to countries at war, civil or otherwise, or loan money to counrties that have no chance of paying it back..so the amount should be 0, but I think it must be nearing 30 billion or so, I know its north of 20 billion. to a country with its industrial base lost..completelyIf Poroshenko is smart he will have moved his family out of Kiev,and he should keep a chopper ready near by, if the pause is long enough to truly count the dead, and I suspect it is higher than claimed he may wonder if his end will be Kadafi like...it must be on his mind..You only have to look at who they are sending to fight the Russians/Ukrainians in the east...the faces are 40 plus, even with conscription I bet many of the younger, who can look ahead, have been getting out of there as fast as they can, anyway they can, to whatever country they can. This hasn't been hard to see at all.....such surprise, and shock in western circles, it wasn't supposed to go like this...USA, Britian and any other western nations absolutely have sharp well educated experts on Russia who could have advised that this was very much a probable scenario... but why rock the boat, much better to sit quiet over by the mashed potatoes and collect your check, and hopefully retire early.Well I think the lesson is if you are going to play chess...don't play chess with someone who is willing to smash the chess board, and its being smashedIndustrial base is gone, over 100 billion in trade with Russia gone, it might be 150 billion depending on source, now the population indebted to the IMF for billions with no way to pay it back, a civil war....this isn't going to end well...Silly me, it will end well for these companies as I bet Ukraine lost a lot of equipment in the fighting and will need more,Lockheed Martin Corp. The Boeing Company General Dynamics Corp. Raytheon Company Northrop Grumman Corp. BAE Systems plc United Launch Alliance L.L.C. General Electric Company Bell-Boeing Joint Project Office Hewlett-Packard Company Honeywell International Inc. The Aerospace Corp. A.P. Moller - Maersk A/S Rolls-Royce Corp. Patriot TeamMiscellaneous Foreign Contractors Redstone Defense Systems Dyncorp International LLC Kongsberg Gruppen CDW Government LLC Dyncorp International LLC Phillips 66 Company Johnson Controls Inc. Hellfire Systems LLC

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Topic starter 06/03/2015 11:33 am

what? the quality and content of my you tube links is beyond reproach...
I had hoped that I was not the only one who noted the ease, and familiarity with which they all got along using both Ukraine and Russian words.
They did not appear to be natural enemies....

(two judges seem more comfortable talking in Russian and the third Ukrainian, as best I can observe)

I don't think you would see that now.

Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.

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