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(@preparation-h)
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Does anyone have any experience using this:
http://www.lifesaversystems.com/
We plan to get one in the next few months. If desired, we can post a product review.

Also, we have purchased a:
http://www.waterbob.com
...which I am sure has no holes in it--ha!--so we also have a patch repair kit.



   
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(@mamabear)
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Where did you get your Waterbob Preparation H (giggling at your name...)?? I'm having trouble finding one...



   
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(@anonymous)
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I believe the Bunker Supply Store in Guelph carries them or something similar. The advert says it will keep water fresh for 4 weeks.



   
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(@preparation-h)
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We actually bought them online at Amazon.com and had them shipped to us.

Where did you get your Waterbob Preparation H (giggling at your name...)?? I'm having trouble finding one...



   
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(@grey-wolf)
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At my BOB I have dug a few deep holes around 1.6m deep and have store a few of those 15-20ltr thick plastic water bottles you get from the petrol stations, along with a few items to make a quick filter system and food stuff, I think that should suffice as a basic stock/ reserve, plus being below ground it is kept pretty cool and wont be spotted by anyone who may stumble across my BOB in the mean time.



   
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BelowTheRadar
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I built a filtration system using an old coffee filter holder + coffee filters (to pre filter), a couple of square 16L food grade buckets, 2- 7" gravity fed Doulton candle ceramic filters
http://www.doulton.ca/imp700.html and some hardware bought at a UFA (farm supply store) for 8 Gal per day of drinking/cooking water from almost any source. (cost about $160 total)

I have also accumulated several clear plastic mini kegs (10 or 12 liter?) that will kill off micro bugs using the suns UV. (they use it in Africa with no further treatment) BPA's are better than dying of thirst... I think?


Than= I’d rather be rich than poor.
Then= I first became hungry then I ate.
There = She is there now.
Their = They have their things.
They're = They're going to the mall.
To = They came to the house.
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(@anonymous)
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Radar,
BBAs will cause long term effects and you can get some good quality 3gal and 5gal clear containers that are BPA free.



   
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BelowTheRadar
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I haven't found the bulk BPA free bottles other than minute sizes. The Doulton filters are my first line of defense for the first 4000 gallons or so. The other mini kegs are back up/last resort before drinking from a slough. 😆 I am more worried about GMO corn and other crops than BPA's. I'm also going to dig a shallow well (10ft - 12 ft) in my yard as the water table never goes below 9 ft here. I'll have that water tested and see what further treatment I need. BTW I have plain old bleach in stock as well.

Thanks for the heads up though... 😀


Than= I’d rather be rich than poor.
Then= I first became hungry then I ate.
There = She is there now.
Their = They have their things.
They're = They're going to the mall.
To = They came to the house.
Too = That's too bad.


   
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(@dangphool)
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I know this thread is old but I just stumbled upon it.
Prep H, we have the Lifesaver jerry can and bottle but have not field tested them as they arrived late last year as winter was rolling in. You can find the discussion here I hope;

http://internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2400&p=27076&hilit=lifesaver#p27076

This discussion was under "Ontario" rather than under "Water" so it took a while to find 😥



   
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(@faraday)
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I'm sorry that this is not an answer to the original question asked here, but I think it belongs in this section.
As far as I knew, rain water did not need to be purified? Here is an article I found today, showing that indeed bacteria is present in clouds.
Does this mean rain water should be purified?
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/storm-clouds-crawling-bacteria-221441662.html
Thanks!!


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(@denob)
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Unfortunately, the article doesn't explain what forms of bacteria are present.
The world is full of bacteria, very few are actually harmful, and some are actually beneficial.
As the article does explain, some of the found bacteria are also present on plant life and in the soil.
It would stand to reason that these bacteria end up there through the natural cycle of water...being evaporated into the air, rising into the clouds, and eventually falling back to the surface in the form of precipitation.
I would be more concerned with the bacteria that can find it's way into the rain water from your catchment system.
Would I somehow purify rain water before drinking it?
You bet...but not because of the bacteria in the clouds.



   
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(@faraday)
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Great answer, thanks so much!!


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(@anonymous)
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Well, I did not know that either so great adding in this Scientific Data.

I will be making sure I filter the purer.. rain water then. Since the rain water is so slight in any compounds and any mater at all, normal rainwater shows .000 to .002 ppm, your water filter will last a good long time. Some metering on Water bottles and tap water showed the following;
britta - 100-500 ppm
rain water - .000 - .002 ppm
tap water - 150/300 - 350/375 ppm
bottle water - anywhere from 200 - 750 ppm (Nestle always the highest ppm)
except the distilled water which is pure; .000-001 ppm

I also look for water with the lowest salt and chlorine amounts added
Make sure you upgrade or check your water filters if getting water from outside, to see if they clean out bacteria and viruses as well then!

edit; the rain water harvesters have a chamber normally that fills with the first 2-3 minutes of water, then the water flows into its rain water harvesting tubes or system. This is the safest as the roof or other surface will be contaminated with normal air pollution. The rain water coming down for the first few minutes is also the most polluted as it carries the effluent that is present in the air normally.

So, I was told wrong before, though my information was pre-this experiment and research.. Again... Great Catch and very helpful thankyou!



   
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(@anonymous)
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Hi,

Maybe this can help some people. This is an overview of different way on how to purify water if needed in case of.

Water supply US ARMY CENTER http://www.greatnorthernprepper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/US-ARMY-31-008-1004-Emergency-Drinking-Water.pdf



   
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(@anonymous)
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A mixture of purification, storage and this springs flood potential and impact on those on well water.

Listening to US news and great discussion on concerns over wells being contaminated with extremely high flood levels in the Midwest. Farm runoff, septic beds, fuel tanks spills, from industrial farms.... mentioning maybe 1 million wells impacted. of course the media like to hype things ( but miss important things ).

here in eastern Ontario, there is great concern this spring over potential high water levels and I believe some places in western Ontario are already being hit?

so, bleach, filters and of course lots of water stored away ( not in flooded basements) will be something to have and be aware of.

side impacts may be water in basement and need for adequate pumps, spares ( I like boat bilge pumps that can run off of car battery). then there are generators outside being out of waters way.

I have a small low lying pond near my road and i used a boat bilge pump one spring to lower it before it potentially washed away a small part of driveway. wouldn't be a big deal and more of a hindrance/cost to refurbish but worth the effort and made me realize how handy those things are and mine are ready to deploy. Also use them for transferring maple sap in collector tubs to smaller boil pots etc.

happy Adapting 🙂



   
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