central Alberta bug out location

hmmm...tried to pm buster and it said the person didn't exist...what gives?

Not enough posts probably.

crud. Total PICNIC error. Sorry.

50 people at $50 per month = $30,000 per year.
10 people at $125 per month = $15,000 per year.
Considering the potential for compatibility I would go the smaller number route.

Hi... welcome back! Community, group, tribes are very important for many reasons. I am interested in finding out more details as well.

I'll take my chances, wouldn't want anyone of you scalawags anywhere near my land.... 😀

50 people at $50 per month = $30,000 per year.
10 people at $125 per month = $15,000 per year.
Considering the potential for compatibility I would go the smaller number route.

This is my take on Buster's post if its legit.

1) You have made the first connection. This is a way to make the farm help pay for itself. Doesn't mean he has evil intentions. Could be a win win for some people.

2) It is not as cheap as it sounds. One must pay for the sea can and its delivery plus possibly putting them on blocks to keep off the ground a bit.

3) He has not mentioned offering shelter, although the sea can could potentially be turned into one but you would need to stock pile the materials to do so or to build something.

4) If you don't make it to the bug out location, he has extra sea cans and their contents.

5) If people rent rather then buy the sea cans and then fail to pay rental on said sea cans, Buster is left holding the bag.

6) He runs the risk of people NOT filling up those containers as quickly as he would like, and then making themselves scarce until SHTF. That means a lot of spare tires rolling around wasting his time when he has farming to do. People can be quite demanding when they think they are owed something and they will never just leave their goods without checking on them fairly often and they will always want to tweak the contents; probably during planting or haying season. If someone forgets what they didn't put in the sea cans, the finger will be pointed at Buster and his kin.

7) Until SHTF, he will have increased costs for farm insurance to cover all these people and their families setting foot on his property and getting themselves into potential trouble. It is NOT easy money for Buster see #6; he will be earning it.

8) If SHTF, he will need the help, but he is wise to give them individual garden space. It also implies they need to work in order to feed themselves and he is giving them the means to do so. (teach a man to fish) He isn't going feed freeloaders and no one else should have to either. They will weed themselves out.

9) He has livestock, infrastructure and tools which are something your $50.00 a month will get you and that is big value if things go south. If you are already stocked, you can walk or ride a bike/dirt bike to his place.

10) He will teach you what you need to know to live on a farm and be useful when the time comes. One less thing for many to worry about. Buster gets a migraine in the short term, but may get to keep his farm in the long run.

All this is pure speculation.

50 people and their families who you do not know would be too risky for me. I would go with a smaller number. Assuming they are families that is in the region of 100+ adults and possibly 100+ children. That's a lot of people to feed and to manage in an untried group. I think it could be a good idea but a smaller group might be a more workable approach.

there is some confusion over my intentions, so i will try to clear up what i had in mind.
i am for real, and i am serious about my offer.
i would like to see about 10 family groups and have a total of about 50 people. you would have a locked sea can and only you would hold your key. you would stock a years worth of provisions (minimum) in your sea can to to get you through until growing season.
a reefer sea can, can be bought for around $6000 and makes a great living space, and it will hold all of your things securely until needed.
when shtf, you don't pay rent, as we will band together as a community and work together. a large portion of the cash brought in from this venture would go towards things like a large root cellar and more horse equipment. (thats where my interests lie anyways)
I am a honest, respected in my community and am trusted with my "handshake deals"
i'm doing this to help build my farm and to have a support community in a time of need. its a win win for all involved.

Good on you Buster. I hope you are able to build a strong community of like minded people. If more landowners had your mindset our country would have less to worry about. Our prayers are with you and yours. Thanks for the generous offer!

You are making a very generous offer Buster, which could serve you and the people who go for it well. You can keep working the land until it is needed for gardens and then it'll be ready to be planted. Safety in numbers is great-more people to rotate on night-watch if it is nessesary and people with trouble in mind won't go after such a large group. You suggested you wouldn't have to see them till the SHTF. If you are going to work together and for each others benefit I think it'd be great if you had a camp-out twice a year to get to know each other and learn each others skills and strengths (and weaknesses).People may have ideas of equipment they could buy and share (I buy a hand flour mill and you buy another tool ) You may even want as a group to do some fencing together to help keep people away from the sea cans now and protection if the SHTF. Personally I could not make the same offer as I only have 20 acres and none of it cleared.I am going to open up some for garden, but it wouldnt be enough for many people. So I am glad to see you doing this-good idea!

Sounds interesting, as other have said safety in numbers. Everyone would contribute i.e. a master want list to eliminate duplicate buying is an excellent idea. A camp out at least once a year is another sound idea it gives everyone in the group time to meet others and deal with issues while times are good. If there are minor issues now they would escalate in very tough times.
Hopefully it could be structured so that all positions could be covered i.e. wouldn't need 15 accountants (don't flame me it was just something I pulled out of the air) but you get my point.
Logistically feeding this number is not an easy task but can be done. Learned in the army be nice to the cooks.
Good luck

Buster,
I thank you for your offer, even if I am too far away to take advantage. I think something like this is what a lot of preppers need. A place to go (BOL) with stored provisions/tools, a group of like minded people who will band together and share chores in SHTF event, low cash output and no need to relocate to a possible hippie farm or year round retreat! If campouts were organized, I am sure you could teach the members some basic farming skills before they are needed and you could always start to organize responsibilities before hand!
Kudos to you!

Now if someone were to offer this kind of thing in Quebec or Eastern Ont., I might just be "IN".

Sounds interesting, as other have said safety in numbers. Everyone would contribute i.e. a master want list to eliminate duplicate buying is an excellent idea. A camp out at least once a year is another sound idea it gives everyone in the group time to meet others and deal with issues while times are good. If there are minor issues now they would escalate in very tough times.
Hopefully it could be structured so that all positions could be covered i.e. wouldn't need 15 accountants (don't flame me it was just something I pulled out of the air) but you get my point.
Logistically feeding this number is not an easy task but can be done. Learned in the army be nice to the cooks.
Good luck

It would also give time to address those skill areas which are lacking in the group and work together to take courses and volunteer positions to fill the gaps. Multiple roles for each so there is built in redundancy of knowledge. You can't count that everyone will make it.

Sounds like a great place to bug out buster im in the uk not many places to hide im sorry to say mate more like being in a tin can full to the top with to many beans.lol if i dont lol id cry.
wish i could come out there bro.