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(@javert)
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Hi all, I'm new to these forums and I must say it's great to see a network of local Canadian Preppers. As a Canadian I would like to get some advice about buying food online and what is the best and most cost effective way to get a good reserve of long term food.

My goal is a 6 month supply for 4 grown adults to start off with. I have two sites in mind where I would like to order from.
http://www.efoodsdirect.com/Alex.aspx
and
http://www.wisefoodsupply.com/long-term-food-storage.html

I have never ordered large orders of food to be shipped before and I am not sure to expect when it comes to shipping. Especially being in Canada I'm not sure which sites are Canadian and what the cross boarder taxes would be.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks



   
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(@traveller)
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BridenSolutions in cochrane ab/ before you do anything....and there is another one in lethbridge i believe [ cant remember the name]....and welcome to the community


Better to have it and not need it; then to need it and not have it...


   
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(@lgsbrooks)
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The one in Lethbridge is called "in case of"...also check out the listing here called "Food Storage System"...it is 8 really good you tube videos from a seminar by Wendy Dewitt teaching you what to store and how to figure out exactly how much you will need.



   
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(@javert)
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awesome. Thanks for the info guys.



   
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(@forward)
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Javert. I can also vouch for Briden solutions. His products are quality and inexpensive

When my wife I wanted to begin storing food we wanted a year's supply of emegency food in place as soon as possible just in case tragic events overtook our prepping.

So we went with the Mormon Four. We aren't Mormons ourselves but we bought wheat, sugar salt and powdered milk from the Mormon's Home Storage Centre in south Calgary.

We've got a year's supply of emergency food in place without breaking our bank account.

We found out about the Mormon Four by reading a book by survival expert Cody Lundin titled "When All Hell Breaks Loose".
Now that we have a basic emergency year's supply in place we are buying other foods so we can vary our diet.

Mind you if you download & read a book called "Passport To Survival" By Emily Dickey you will be absolutely amazed at the unbelieveable ways this woman prepares wheat to create different dishes. She uses wheat the way some people use soybeans. 😯

The Mormon Four is the absolutely cheapest means you will find for putting into place a year's supply of food for a family.

Oh! By the way. Just because I recommend the Mormon Four model of food storage doesn't mean I'm Mormon. Neither me or my wife are. But those people know one heck of a lot about prepping. It's part of their faith.

Now that we HAVE a year's supply of emergency food, (mormon four) now we buy more "normal" or conventional foods for storage at briden solutions.
Briden solutions has great produts and we deal with them now but the Mormon four is the least expensive (but it's limited in menu).



   
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(@anonymous)
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(@javert)
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I'll check out the mormon four thing for sure. What I'm after though is long lasting food. 25 Year shelf life to be exact. I do stock the rice and bean type staples every prepper should in the pantry. What I am after is a good supply of freeze dried food in mylar bags. Easy to store without having to worry about rotating it for a long time. Also it's very easy to grab and go. I've checked out Briden but I can't seem to find any freeze dried product, only dehydrated. I'm waiting an email back so I'll have to see then.

The product that seems the most convenient for storage life and transport is the Efoods product. It has stunning reviews but the problem is it's in the US. I am able to get it shipped close to the boarder to avoid outrageous shipping but it would still be better if I could find a Canadian product that was similar.



   
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(@anitapreciouspearl)
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Welcome Javert!

I've been at this food storage thing for a few years 🙂 I know that the time seems short but it doesn't matter when you start it ALWAYS feels short. It was short 10 years ago! When we feel a little or a lot of that panic we make decisions based on the panic. Many people want the whole years supply and FAST however mistakes are made that way. It is far better to do some research and put away the food yourselves. It is not difficult to pack your own food and much cheaper!

The Mormon Four will kill you if that's all you have. Of course no one really ONLY has those four but it can make you complacent. Wheat prepared a million ways is still wheat - you will develop all kinds of digestive problems if you suddenly make this your diet - not to mention you will die of malnutrition! Please look at making balanced meals out of healthy and good for you food. You want to do more than survive - you want to live well.

I love Briden Solutions - great people and great products. For sure use them and get some things but please do some research and don't give in to the panic.


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(@quietman)
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I agree with Anita about just the morman four, but I also believe if you have a good supply of it, along with a good variety of things to mix it with you are good to go.


Hmmm, maybe I should rethink the quiet part...


   
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(@denob)
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I gotta side with Anita on this one...home food storage is quite easy...if I can do it, well, pretty much anyone can learn. I started out last year waterbath canning tomatoes, peaches, pears and some pickles. I saved up a few bucks and just bought a pressure canner for $50.00 at a flea market. This year I will also be canning meat cubes, pasta sauces, chilli, and whatever else I can think of. The canner holds 7 Quarts, so if I can pasta sauce with meat & veggies, then 1 canner load along with a few packages of pasta means dinners for a week. You can also dehydrate fruit & veggies...they will take up lots less room than canning and are similar to the freeze dried stuff as far as flavor and use is concerned. For those things you just can't do yourself such as powdered butter, milk, cheese, then by all means, try Briden. I usually recommend them not because I think the other companies are not as good, but they are active members of this forum and direct a lot of their customers here. Not to mention that they practice what the preach and are preppers themselves.

Above all, store what you eat and eat what you store. List the kinds of meals that you enjoy and store up the ingredients that you need to make them. Eat from your food storage, using oldest first. This way, you will always have a fresh supply of food. IMHO, 25 year shelf life stuff is OK if you want to stock up a BOL that you almost never go to, but not much else.



   
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(@forward)
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Welcome Javert!

I've been at this food storage thing for a few years 🙂 I know that the time seems short but it doesn't matter when you start it ALWAYS feels short. It was short 10 years ago! When we feel a little or a lot of that panic we make decisions based on the panic. Many people want the whole years supply and FAST however mistakes are made that way. It is far better to do some research and put away the food yourselves. It is not difficult to pack your own food and much cheaper!

The Mormon Four will kill you if that's all you have. Of course no one really ONLY has those four but it can make you complacent. Wheat prepared a million ways is still wheat - you will develop all kinds of digestive problems if you suddenly make this your diet - not to mention you will die of malnutrition! Please look at making balanced meals out of healthy and good for you food. You want to do more than survive - you want to live well.

I love Briden Solutions - great people and great products. For sure use them and get some things but please do some research and don't give in to the panic.

Thank you for your input but respectfully the Mormom four WON'T KILL YOU. Why would Canada send tons of the Mormon 4 to Ethiopia & Sudan if it were going to kill people? Perhaps you should go & ask some Canadian Forces peacekeepers about what those people do for a diet there.

Before the Ethiopian civil war that ruined that countries ecomony Ethiopia was a farming success story. Wheat was a major subsistance part of their diet.

Also in ancient times (Biblical times) people didn't have Briden solutions. They had wheat. The Bible in Genisis makes severral references to milk honey & wheat.. This was a big part of their diet. Often it was the only part. Other ancient texts, like egyptian hieroglyphs speak about milk honey & wheat.

In the Middle ages right up to the industrial revolution wheat & milk waere the daily food supply for most of the population. Read some Robert Louis Stevenson.

Also, the Mormoms (even if you disagree with them theologically) have had a couple hundred years of experience studying emergency food storage and that, in my mind is a pretty good testament.

Survival expert Cody Lundin has done research on the matter and so has author and dietician Emily Dickey. I trust their judgement.

Wheat Salt sugar and dried milk has a shelf life of 30 years plus if it is stored properly in deoxygenated enviroment (cans or sealed plastic containers with oxygen absorbers).

In more modern societies I would like to point out that during the recent Japanese tsunami/reactor disaster the government was feeding Japanese citizen refugees with rice balls (rice is a cereal grain, nutritionally similar to wheat)and not much else. The usefulness of cereal grains as a viable major food source is proven again

SO I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH.

We picked the Mormon 4 not because we were panicing. I don't panic easily thanks. We wanted something in place and we realized that we had much to do. Our resources (money) had to be divided amoungst several aspects of prepping - not just food.

It took us almost 2 years to put together a years supply of food. It would have took much longer if we had bought ONLY canned goods.

If we had bought a year's supply of canned meats vegs fruits we would not have had money to buy 2 generators, medical supplies, a roof rack for the car, extra jerry cans for gas, HAM radio, candles, propane ect ect.

Now that we HAVE a year's supply we are buying more conventional foods to vary our diet. But I sleep a lot better knowing that we have our year's supply in place.

However, there is one thing we absolutely agree on Briden Solutions is great! Their staff are wonderful and their product is of high quality.



   
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(@denob)
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Funny, but EVERY reference to the Mormon Four that I have ever come across, admits that this is a poor diet and strongly advocates the addition of vitamin suppliments as well as a source of fats and oils. Yes, this diet MAY keep you alive, but the risk of severe illness is great. Even in biblical times, there is as much, if not more reference to olives, that would provide the fats that the human body requires. I also looked around the LDS site, and yes, these four elements are suggested AS A BASE to food storage. The LDS suggests storing foods that you normally eat, little by little each trip to the grocery store and rotating it into your normal daily eating. I have several food storage manuals, including one from the LDS, and believe me, the Morman Four is not recommended to be considered a complete diet, especially for a year.
I am happy to hear that you are adding more nutritious supplies to your food storage, but I would recommend against anyone feeling relieved with a one year supply of wheat, sugar, powdered milk, and salt. Sorry to say, but even suggesting that one could survive for a year on such limited basics is irresponsible.



   
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(@forward)
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You know what? I stand corrected. Thank you anita & denob.

I admit freely that the mormom four are not adequate for a SINGLE SOLUTION. . As I do not want to be irresponsible ( the consequences are too great) I admit that othjer foods will be needed to supplement this. But really, this BASE is the least expensive way to go.

However those supplement foods need not be in extremely large supply. I would like to point out that in China an overwhelming component of thier diet is cereal grain (rice). It is supplemented with small amounts of chicken, fish or other vegs. But really, rice makes up the major part of their diet.

My research indicates that as a part of an overall long term emergency prep plan the Mormon four are the best way to go.

If others want to prepare in other ways and consider their model the best, no problem.

Also, I would like to point out that in a survival situation you are simply not going to be sitting on your ass eating your stored food.

Survival preparedness is about giving you the breathing time to adapt to a new situation and improve on it.

Perhaps i gave denob and anita the wrong impression that a person would simply spend their time doing nothing but sitting aound eating wheat.

If I led you to that conclusion then I have done you a disservice. The Mormon Four are no more a final solution to home storage than a life preserver is to escaping a sinking ship. They are a very important component of a large picture and will keep you alive, breathing and basically healthy until you can work at improving your lot.

Somebody who wants to attack & dismiss the Mormon four as a model & base of food storage is doing a equal, perhaps greater disservice.

You can spend 30,000 dollars putting together fine foods for storage that give a wonderfully varied menu then be screwed if you are unable to move your fine foods out of a disaster area when you need to evacuate because you left no money to buy a truck.

Thanks anita & denob for adding to my knowledge. I'm sticking with my model. Good luck folks. I wish you the best.



   
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(@anonymous)
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MY MY MY..

I wonder what it is about online groups and communities that raises the hackles of people like this. = Answer, online you can not see the other persons body language, facial expressions nor the tone.

Ironically to me at least is the fact that YOU ARE ALL RIGHT! Variations of right especially, all right in your approach in your beliefs and in your thought processies (my word 🙂

Unfortunately with the prevalence to GMO - Genetically Modified Foods and Seeds the foods we eat are not as healthy nor nutritious as they once were. Wheat of the yesteryear was much better for us than the 5' tall GMO type we have now. The Mormon Four was a great basis as has been stated, Brinden is a very good company as has been stated, growing your own and purchasing other materials in bulk are all part of a great plan actually.

Since I have started reading reports like the Wheat Belly and the Palaeolithic Diet I have seen information that contradicts the wisdom of the last few hundred years. The Bible does give us some guidelines, for their time, unfortunately they did not mention (in the future be careful of GMO foods) The Bible of which Anita is more than aquanted with (I was more so years ago) does spell out in other terms Prep for the future, Prep to survive - ya not paraphrased either.

Folks, gotta tell ya all, so getting peeeeeed at atitudes running amuck, if someone does not agree with someone else, please be polite about it. If you think your hand has been slapped, be Adult about it and don't threaten to leave or See Ya or etc etc.

We are adults (well most of us there are some juniors here as well so watch the language) please just step back and say; "it must just be the whole computer interface thing, and not the in person real life situation, allow some room for interpretation as well please, EVERYONE"

Since you brought up the Military and some of my Buddies were there, and in Haiti etc etc, yes, they are the staples given out to keep people alive, those people are given the staples as they are easily stored in those 50lb bags, distributed easily, also told to find other foods, and then the second waves/third waves of food supplies are supposed to bring in other products as well. For Man can not live on Bread Alone, sayeth the Bible.

So to everyone, stay, learn, enjoy, participate, don't like what someone says, comment politely, move on, or just do not read their posts or just, just remember things come across so much different in Real Life than in this imperfect medium of pixels and ones and zeros. For we are imperfect ourselves, we are just ones, and hopefully we will not act like Zeros more like Zoroes (sp.. the dude with the big hat, white horse and thin pointy sword, spanish style!



   
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(@anonymous)
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Forward I think you said it all in "Also, I would like to point out that in a survival situation you are simply not going to be sitting on your ass eating your stored food."
You have a plan, it is a good one and it WILL WORK! Everyone has to "buy time" with their supplies untill times improve or you become self sufficient.



   
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