I'm not sure if the program still runs but the Alberta goverment used to run a homestead land program for the the north country as well as the BC Goverment ,might be worth checking into....
Better to have it and not need it; then to need it and not have it...
I'm not sure if the program still runs but the Alberta goverment used to run a homestead land program for the the north country as well as the BC Goverment ,might be worth checking into....
Have seen some available but in the Yukon, NWT, etc. you have to have lived there for a year before applying, when you pass away land not handed down to spouse .
We might be able to get land cheaper in Saskatchewan but then we also have to take into consideration the weather they get. Anyone ever worry about buying land in Alberta because of all the oil/gas industry in this province and how much water they're using? Using a lot of water in that industry may lead to empty underground cavities and land caving in over time.
What area most interests your family? Northern Alberta, Central Alberta, Southern Alberta or elsewhere (BC/Saskatchewan/MB) My family isn't interested in Northern Alberta/BC/MB but we'd consider central or southern AB/BC/Saskatchewan/MB providing there is trees! 🙂 We don't want to set-up homestead where a lot of drilling is going on and done.
@ Mountaineer,
I've looked at land in the Pincher Creek / Waterton Park area. The land is a little more reasonably priced than say the Sundre area, no oil and gas in the area, and a tonne of wind farming which further supports your "off grid" concept. If you search "crowsnest real estate" the local remax agent has a pretty good site to look over.
Good luck with it!
Antsy
Needs must when the devil drives.
Sundre is such a great area, so many trees, so much water....dang cold in winter though
Mountaineer,
below is a link to a parcel of land 20K outside of Golden that I just pulled from Kijiji. 55 acres at ten thousand an acre. The big deal is that it's outside of the ALR meaning no building permits or land use influence. Only rule is that structures have to meet the Canadian Building Code. Also solves issues about buried sea-cans and the like. The biggest issue is the cash as I see it. For someone like me, it's also a bit too far from work. I build retail and offices so kinda need to be close to retail and offices... 😉 . I find myself looking at real estate a lot so if you are interested in these links, I don't mind forwarding them along.
Cheers,
Needs must when the devil drives.
Mountaineer,
below is a link to a parcel of land 20K outside of Golden that I just pulled from Kijiji. 55 acres at ten thousand an acre. The big deal is that it's outside of the ALR meaning no building permits or land use influence. Only rule is that structures have to meet the Canadian Building Code. Also solves issues about buried sea-cans and the like. The biggest issue is the cash as I see it. For someone like me, it's also a bit too far from work. I build retail and offices so kinda need to be close to retail and offices... 😉 . I find myself looking at real estate a lot so if you are interested in these links, I don't mind forwarding them along.
Cheers,
Thanks for the info. Can you find something in the Caribbean...we're getting tired of the winters and wet springs here? 🙂
Antsy; are you suggesting this for a buy in as a group situation?
Hmmm, maybe I should rethink the quiet part...
55 acres at 600 thousand, and you think that is a good deal? I will give you that it comes with what looks to be a well built log home, but I can tell you 12,00-20,000 delivered in logs woud build that home no problem. Its in BC, I know BC well, spent years there and can tell you that they will handle you in the most non consentual way you have ever experienced when you start developing it, Expect to pay through the nose tax wise, Spring fed creeks, who cares? water falls from the sky for christ sake , 3 hrs from Calgary? big woop. here is a better deal 3,7 hrs from Calgary, 158 acres ( 3x) at (1/3 the price) 170,000 total, in crops now with oil lease revenue that pays 2000.00 a year and a yearly tax of 500.00 Mls number E3273773 You people who are counting on others to find you good deals really need to give your head a shake, good deals do exist from one end of this province (alberta) to the other, but others are not going to look after your interests, you are going to have to do it.This idea of self sustainanble comunity is such BS. think about this I just handed any one who is interested a property that will pay tax's of 500.00 a year from oil lease revenue plus 1500.00 then from land under cultivation, and pasture at a minumium of another 3500.00 a year, so 5000.00 a year minumium, without doing a god dam thing but rolling out of bed, and this is not the best deal I know of. How can you form a self sustainable comunity when you can not get the land value accurate, Look after your own interests first, then trade, and share with others.
You people really have to start thinkng for yourseves, unless you have nothing but money to throw around, and waste. 600 thousand for 55 acres, I would have to be brain damaged.
7 hours from calgary in which direction. What is the nearest large center? The land is already developed? only $2000 a year for an oil lease?
Antsy was just giving a suggestion, as no one else had put any suggestions forward. I am sure that they will discuss it more in length at their next meeting. No need to jump all over people. I believe the idea rolling around in this thread is that although the location would need to be remote, it would still need to be accessable. No point in having a Community to go to when SHTF if you have to fill up your car 3 times to get their.
just my thoughts on it.
See you all after.
fyi: just checked out that mls listing. It is in Beaver, Utah. Ive been through Beaver. nothing there but a gas station (most expensive gas on the I15 bar none). Its a desert climate (close to the arizona border, well south of Salt Lake City. Its actually closer to a 15 hour drive, not 7. 7 hours and your not even into Utah yet. Made the drive over 50 times).
Not to mention the fact that any of the readers in this thread would have to cross an international border in order to get to it. Probobly not the easiest thing to do when SHTF> I tell you one thing... when it does, one of the last places I would want to be going to is Beaver Utah lol
See you all after.
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Needs must when the devil drives.
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Needs must when the devil drives.
Sorry if I came on harsh but 600 thousand is serious coin, and only 55 acres to show for it ! Please if you looking for land Each look in there own area, where ever you are, look there, and compare with others. Speak with local realtor's many know of properties that would be for sale if the owners thought they could find buyers, rural land can be very reasonable and it is a buyers market, dont let anyone tell you different, As a group buy, cash will likely have to be paid as financing on undeveloped rural land is very hard to get. With a group buy, financed with cash you can drive a hard bargin, and get great value.
My shock is in the price and little (Realativly) being obtained for it, I know it was just a suggestion, I work hard for my money, and assume others do to, but when it comes to groups, organisation, committies, whatever form people come together (such as this), its seems obtaining value your your hard earned dollar is not a priority when money will be contributed by others, thats why I (in my opinion) say it is BS to structure a self sustainable community based on individual contributions, but spend by committee or vote, The valuation of things becomes skewed, and this is a example of that.
I dont know what you mean by Utah, that property Example I gave is maybe 50 minutes from Edmonton (MLS E3273773) There are others like it, and at just over a thousand a acre that will leave coin in your pocket to do many things. Finding places to build without more than just the Canadian building code as a requirement is not hard, there are many, usually one county removed from the major centers ( Calgary, Edmonton,Reddeer) .If money is no concern, and it may well not be for many of you, as clearly I am the only one questioning such a valuation, then have at such type of properties, for those with less resourses to spend and needing greater value (like myself) , do your own looking around, great deals can be found!
Maybe you've got the wrong mls number. If you google MLS E3273773, you'll find a whole bunch of different real estate websites advertising the same plot of land, in beaver utah.
See you all after.