I dont know why that is not coming up for you try this http://www.home-time.net/rural%20page.htm then scroll down to the last property listed.That should get you to it.
Listed at 169, bet 150-155 would take it , That would bring land cost under 1000 a acre. No springs or creeks but just because that BC property had them, doesnt me you can freely use them.I would bet my watch BC has some laws restricting water use. Maybe even a tax for their management.

"My shock is in the price and little (Realativly) being obtained for it, I know it was just a suggestion, I work hard for my money, and assume others do to, but when it comes to groups, organisation, committies, whatever form people come together (such as this), its seems obtaining value your your hard earned dollar is not a priority when money will be contributed by others, thats why I (in my opinion) say it is BS to structure a self sustainable community based on individual contributions, but spend by committee or vote, The valuation of things becomes skewed, and this is a example of that. "

At Analog Man,

Points all taken. While I was trying to be helpful, my own bias pushes my recommendations just as it would for anyone else doing a search. Chances are, Mountaineer also has a completely different vision for what his proposed community would look like. For me, I am not at a place where I would move my family away from the city in favor of a self sustainable community that was 'away'. For me, I would be more likely to consider a place to bug out to. That looks very different than what Mountaineer is proposing. It is also something that I would pay a lot more for because I would treat it as dual purpose recreational property. I think that bias pushes my searches away from prime agricultural land and towards something in the foothills or even well into the mountains. We trail run, x-c ski, back country camp, fish, and hike. My personal vision looks much more like Nipika (outside of Radium) than a hutterite colony (with separate homes, but you get the gist). I make no judgements either way, it's just the path that I'm on. For those who pursue a full blown community, what an admirable endevour. One that I expect would be full of challenges that once met, would return many rewards. If all roads lead to Rome, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised that despite our common destination, many of us are on different paths.

Cheers,

Antsy

Agreed, many roads to Rome, But if those looking to put such a community together want to do more than talk about it they need to get on a common one. 7 pages in and no direction, wildly different objectives, and while community held property is not for me, if its for others go for it, hope it works.
If someone doesnt nail down the common denominator amunst the group , define the definition of sustainable, take point on identifing the financial resources that can be brought to the table, and nail down the land it will go to 14 pages of talk. Thats fine if that what people want to do-talk. I suspect a few might want to act, be hopeing for action, for them I would suggest they need to act alone, You can have your sutainable community by looking after your own interests in securing your own property, developing it to the advantage of the location,size, your abilities, equipment, and skill set, then networking with other doing the same for common trade, shared support, and mutual benifit.
I just pointed out land that is great, 155 acres (lots of elbow room), Generating a positive cash flow, under a 1000 a acre, low density area, do you see people jumping all over it...no.
Oh sure people will have a endless list of reasons why its less than suitable, but the fact that its not being acted on (or ones like it sought out) should give those serious about doing something a clue that if they expect to get something done they need to do it for themself, I would suggest soon....times they are a changing.

Antsy, yes admirable endevour to try.....a practical one, we will see....

Hey analog man, I found it on google earth. I am with you on your points about price etc, and about getting serious and active.
Buying a beautiful resort like property would be okay for someone who can afford it, but most of us here need to have money after the purchase to get the place where we need it and fully stocked. I hope you can make the next meeting so we can chat in person.

"and about getting serious and active."
serious and active with respect to time, everyone may infact be serious, and active but you can get old, and grey trying to get a concensus or to find land perfect for everyone, and as we see what seems absurd to me 600k is perfectly fine to others, perspective,income and land use make 600k seem practical to some, and as explained so it is. The best land is what you can afford, effort will make it perfect. Time you cant get more of, I advocate not wasting any. Again, what I pointed out is nothing special, good deals are found everywhere get yourself one! as a group or individually.
This topic, and preping may be mutually exclusive.In fact as I think about it, it may in fact not be compatable. Prepping for a event big or small, short in duration, or long, and the mindset that goes with that,and living (more) Sustainably day in, and out are in many regards polar opposites, and likely the people each appeals to are just as opposite, Just one more thing to consider in a group purchase.

Check-out this thread and provide "constructive" feedback. http://villagehomesdavis.org/home If you know of another eco friendly community or self sustainable community, I encourage you to post the link so we can all view it and take note of what we liked/disliked about it to move forward. Building a self sustainable community involves analyzing the eco system.

Mountaineer's Wife

"A wise man will listen, observe and learn from others then figure a way on how to improve it according to their idealology rather than reconstruct it from scratch!"

When I win the lottery, I'll look into it further. Sorry, It is the type of place that most of us would love to be apart of, and when one of us wins the lottery, then maybe they will invite some of us to join them at a nominal fee.

Greetings
Well I have read through this post completely and some of it intrigues me, because the idea of a sustainable group property is intriguing.
I already am paying down a piece of property that is off grid but next door, to the real world. 53.5 acres rolling hills about 20 acres reasonable flat land just not all in one lot. The kicker of this is that it is approx. 70 KM a good size city (Prince George BC ), has power lines at edge of property if it is wanted on site, paved road to right up to the drive way. Highway 97 actually cuts one edge of the property, there is a small town, (Gas, sundries, fire dept, schools ) about 3Km down the road.
another border is the railway line and the back border is old growth forest. There is good water in the area, with a small river only a couple hundred feet away.

I like the idea of community but, with a permanence, this said I mean brick and mortar or pillar and post, so that takes trailers with wheels out of the equation, but fixed to pillars such as modular is ok by me. So I would be interested in seeing where this conversation might lead, because my wife and I are doing this by ourselves as it is, but we are open to the group idea.

@ Mountaineer's Wife

I checked out the link for the community down south. Something like that could be (and is) built with regularity around most major centers. The difference is that a developer puts the whole thing together independently and then sells to the public. I know a fellow who does just that outside of Okotoks. What I'm seeing in the link is really just a subdivision with a little more thought put into the living environment than is typical in a profit driven model. I think what you would be proposing is putting together the community of home owners first, then purchasing the land and developing it with some sort of group consensus of what the community would look like and some basic standards for construction. I don't know how consistent this vision is with many of the other posts on this topic. Were you able to get a community of folks to buy into your idea though, it would not be difficult to implement. (just finance)

Antsy

This is just my thoughts on this;

It seems we have a lot of different ideas for this plan but the one thing that keeps coming up is money and finance..
It seems that the majority of us are in the same boat; middle class with not a lot of extra finances available at this point in our lives..
I think, and again just my thoughts, find several locations in multiple directions that would suffice in a S.H.T.F. scenario..They do exist..
Just a thought but what if you build such a place, and stock it, who will be there full time to look after it and Gard your supplies year round, and if the S.H.T.F.
scenario was close to shangri-la then what, your plan is one dimensional and unable to change on the fly....Its not that it's a bad idea just that it doesn't leave any options..

Just my thoughts.....

I checked out the link bit and well interesting and cool, I have the feeling that the costs involved would be very high. It is the type of community that would be very much a primary residence and so bylaws, applications for development and subdivision and all those type of legalities would need to be researched, applied for, and approved before it could really start to move forward. As mentioned I did hear about a similar type development south of Calgary, I believe done by Mike Holmes. I could be interested in this as I mentioned perviously and would be interested in more research, however......

I also kind of like, and appreciate What Traveller mentions in his post about "find several locations in multiple directions.." From his comments I almost picture more of a "camping" or recreation type looking setting, with storage for its members. Perhaps all linked together and supporting each other. When something hits, what if all your plans are to go North and can only go South...would be nice to know that there is still a place that is willing to support and help you and vise versa.

My thoughts are this; we couldn't afford to stock 4 different place's just about impossible, [ unless some one wins the lottery]..so here is what I propose, in the event of a S.H.T.F. event I figure at the minum we would have 3/5 days to decide if it is a Bug out situation..[ excluding a nuclear detonation] that's an immediate bug out..So if we have 3/5 days to decide then what I think we need is 4 different muster points, this way our group has some where to muster, you know when you get there your group will be there, security in numbers [ unless you are first one there]....then from there we go in a group to our designated bug out location.....these sites will all be predetermined by the group....keep in mind my time line is pure speculation, but it is info I have gathered and built a pattern with from different catastrophes. the pattern seems to be 3/5 day break down of food and water disappearing , once that happens panic begins to set in and then you have people taking things into there own hands..

I needed to come back to this post and make an edit; I don't want anyone who has suggested, or put some work into the idea of a self sustainable community to think that I'm trying to squash any ideas about such a community, that is not my intentions at all..I am just putting another option out there to maybe try and avoid the money and finance problems..My plan simply gives people with limited finance's another option and they to will have a place to go, and have a supporting group when they get there...
One thing is for sure self sustainable community or muster point for the group to rally at, we will all need to have a group to be with, because no one will last long by them selves...

just my thoughts on this....

Really?! This thread just spontaneously died? I'm a new poster and trying to catch up by reading through the forum and just as the discussion was getting more specific and GOOD... it just ended. 🙁 Did new threads get started where the discussion was continued?

I personally like the idea of a sustainable community, but I get that many people have a different take on what that looks like. I think getting everyone's idea out on what they picture is key, so that like-minded people can gravitate towards each other to make their vision a reality. (if this has already happened on this forum, my apologies, I have not read that far and please point me in the direction).

In my particular situation, I do have some funds to buy land (I'm thinking around 3-5 acres, nothing crazy, within an hour's drive of Edmonton). Unfortunately, I do not have many skills for building (general knowledge, desire and drive, yes, but actual skills, not so much). I am a single person looking at this endeavor, so I would love to see myself in a like-minded community where we could possibly share/barter resources/equipment/labour in order to keep our building costs down. Perhaps those with available funds could purchase an extra acre or two and eventually sell those off to those with fewer funds but actual skills they could hire.

I would prefer my own self-sufficiency with the backup of having a great community of like minded people around me. I am a private person to an extent, get to know me a bit and you will know who I am, but my ideal is to live in a community and not a commune. I'll look after myself, but if there is a need, I can call on my neighbours. I enjoy the outdoors, hiking, x-country skiing, etc., that is the lifestyle I desire should my version of SHTF transpire or not, that is the community I would like to be in long-term. A hilly, treed, around 3 acres, ~1hr W/SW of Edmonton is preferred. I would like to build a home near to those that share similar ideals.

Last weekend I drove around my 'preferred' rural areas, there were several 'for sale by owner' lot signs. They were selling more acres than I was interested in buying (10 acres or more, but if you were to get 3-5 people interested in buying in, then I think you have enough for a 'sustainable community'. We don't all have to agree on one particular location to be sustainable, there seems to be enough members to fall into a few categories, it's just a matter of figuring out where everyone 'fits'.

Hello Seedsprouter;
I read you to be someone with genuine dedication to your future and a vision of how to help others do something benificial. keep posting, some of us would like to be able to PM a freindly, thoughtful and interesting prepper like you.

I just joined the group minutes ago and I am beside myself.. Finally people from close by who are like minded and no longer have the feeling like my ideas are just those of a single household in Alberta. My wife and I live in a town, but have been thinking lately that we need to purchase some land. We live west of Edmonton along highway 16. There is land available where we are looking one acreage with just over 13 acres but think that more with a bigger group would be more beneficial. If you are in the neck of the woods and are interested in chatting about further plans, definitely message me or something. Would be very excellent to touch base with like minded people.

Good day.