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SHTF Dates... are they reliable?

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(@draymen)
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I've been reviewing a number of documentaries, papers and video regarding possible SHTF scenarios and a lot of them seem to revolve around a possible interstellar object (Nibiru, Planet X) entering our solar system. Many go so far as to say, this is already happening and have plotted the path of this object (7th planet from a Brown Dwarf star system) that will cross our solar ecliptic on or about December 21, 2012 and on February 14, 2013 as it accelerates and makes it's way back out of our solar system it occupies a position, putting the earth directly in the middle of it and the Sun at about .20 AU's (20 million miles). Furthermore, it is at this time that the solar system is in line with the Galactic Equator which some suggest increases the gravitational pull on objects in line due to the speed of the galactic core (black hole) and a planar gravitational pull that is accompanied with a burst of deadly gamma radiation.

The suggested effects according to many of these documentaries (dating back to 2005 for the ones I reviewed) was an increase in earthquake and storm activity on the planet. They also go so far as to suggest that the intensity and frequency of both storms and earthquakes increase as we get closer to the 2012/2013 timeline. Considering the dates at which these documentaries/videos were produced, I'd say they're nearly spot-on so far... frightening to say the least.

It certainly sounds like something out of science fiction; however, it seems to be a very, very common theme among many subject matter experts (if there is such a thing) and more interestingly, I find that their data is somewhat independent (although some rely on the same source material); however, all come to nearly the same conclusion.

My point being, we should never get fixated on a particular date (12/21/2012 or 2/14/2013 etc) and rather focus on events as they unfold around us and be vigilant at all times. To put our guard down and be less vigilant after the passing of a particular date would be a disservice to ourselves and those we are preparing to protect.

Draymen

Two possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying. - Arthur C. Clarke



   
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(@anonymous)
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December 21, 2012 is just a date on the calendar like any other date. Don't get too worried about Nibru either it is a myth. As far as the passing alignment with the galactic centre we have been crossing it for a number of years and will foe a few more years yet, it is not a one day or one month event. This astronomical event of aligning with the centre of the galaxy is also cyclic.

Now that doesn't mean the you should not prep or have a plan. Just ask the people that just experienced Sandy. Severe weather events and their severity has been on the rise for a number of years so has tectonic activity. Add to that mix the current seeming turmoil in global politics and the uncertainty in all the major currency markets and it does appear to be a perilous time with increased possibilities of SHTF. May be it will, maybe it won't, just develop a plan that you are comfortable with and work towards its completion. That is what we can do and it is so much better than taking no action at all.



   
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(@cares)
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All these type of event with fixed dates always come and go and the people who have fixated about them only end up looking like fools. If a major end of world event happens then I am probably as unprepared as the next person...no bunker, no BOL, no special helmet to protect me from planet x etc
Fear is our enemy, fear will make us panic and reduce our usefulness. By all means prep for disasters in whatever form they may take but to buy into the fear of certain major events happening on certain dates is a distraction from reality 😀



   
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(@draymen)
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I agree that there certainly has been a number of predictions in the past where someone presumably has isolated an event to a specific date. In some cases, there is an agreement among a broad spectrum of groups (mass hysteria?) about a particular event and what it will bring (Y2K for example). However, I have yet to see anyone cite an example where a collection of groups across a diverse geographical spread over a period of several millennia come to the same conclusion. I'm very pessimistic in nature and I rely heavily on a evidence to support any postulation. Currently, I see more convincing hypothesis to suggest that such an event might be the likely scenario than there is evidence to suggest the contrary.

In any case, my preparations started a long time ago and like the rest of us, work towards ensuring we do what we can within our means. My earlier post was more of a reminder to those who put a lot of stock in a particular date, to remain vigilant in the passing of that date because as ICRCC has mentioned, it is just a date. When SHTF, I doubt many of us will be worried too much about the cause rather than the effect and react appropriately.

Draymen
--If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains; however, improbable, is more than likely true--



   
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(@duffmanprepper)
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What are the other dates or are the 2 the only ones that are a concern
Like apofus the asteroid that is supposed be be a near miss in 2015 and then either head out or come back for a hit in 2035


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Buggie
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"Never ever, say never ever"

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(@duffmanprepper)
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Macs rubber rocks but needs to work on his stamina lol


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ranger2012
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Does it really matter what date it is, like to depend on the calendar is like depending on the weather. At one time the calendar wasn’t corrected until it snowed on the summer solstice. So unless you know exactly the date that all of these events are suppose to happen and the exact correct date,(which is in debate) you’d have a better chance winning the lottery or surviving a severe CME. 👿


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ScottyRE
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I had read that Leap year was invented/created by Ceasar and the Mayans knew nothing of this concept so if you are one to believe in the Mayan predictions... by their dating/predictions we should have ended back in July a few months past. Because of that leap year stuff. Who knows what to believe. Plan, prepare, keep living.


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Buggie
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in regards to the mayan theory... their long term map is based on celestial findings. planet alignments and such. the gregorian calender (the current common day calender with leap year) is based on the seasons and the earths rotation around the sun. The leap year does not effect the mayan calender at all, the current cycle simply happens to end on dec 21sy of the current calender. If there was no such thing as leap year, i would land on a different date on the calender, but would still land on the same day time wise (if you think of time as linear), so to speak.

that is, if you believe in any of that.


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Debunking 2012 - NASA

http://lunarscience.nasa.gov/articles/doomsday-2012-fact-sheet/



   
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(@em-ty)
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At one time the calendar wasn’t corrected until it snowed on the summer solstice.

Yeah, that's Edmonton for you... 😆



   
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(@lgsbrooks)
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There is so much going on in the world weather-wise these days and the sun and planet alignments seem to have much to do with it...I got hoodwinked by Elenin last year and believed it was coming and looked like a fool later...I will wait until there is more proof of Nibiru but there is a comet coming in May 2013 that is brighter than the moon...that seems rather chilling to me...as for the 21st of Dec...I think it is that every so often the solar system goes through another astronomical event and we will be leaving Pisces and entering into Aquarious on that date...that is about all I think is happening and then the Myan calendar ends and a new calendar begins in of Aquarious...interesting tidbit though...Aquarious is the water bearer and is pouring out his pitcher of water...there are now rain ARCS all of sudden, one over England that just drowned them and now over California....just saying...lol...if anything were to happen we are all prepared though right!"



   
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ranger2012
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There are basically 2 types of SHTF dates, 1, we live through it. 2 we dont. So we prepare for #1 and hope we dont get sh!t upon by a #2. 😈


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ScottyRE
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Good call ranger. There might be one more... you make it and wish to hell you hadnt (think of "The Road"). Plan for #1 is right.


No matter how good or bad your life is, wake up each day thankful because someone somewhere else right now is fighting for theirs


   
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