My fiancee and were up in the interior near 100 mile for the weekend and found a perfect property.
174 acres. Its an original homestead. Partially restored log cabins and barn. Off grid (probably was never hooked up) has a diesel gen and solar to the modular home, with a creek running thru the property. She loves it cause it will make a perfect ranch. I love it, for all the self reliant opportunities. And compared to prices down here, its a steal at only $289K. Just a minor problem of buying it.... Lol
My fiancee and were up in the interior near 100 mile for the weekend and found a perfect property.
174 acres. Its an original homestead. Partially restored log cabins and barn. Off grid (probably was never hooked up) has a diesel gen and solar to the modular home, with a creek running thru the property. She loves it cause it will make a perfect ranch. I love it, for all the self reliant opportunities. And compared to prices down here, its a steal at only $289K. Just a minor problem of buying it.... Lol
Good on you!
I lived in that area some months way back in the late sixties and again in the 80's. so much potential you have there, and so much already in place. ..sounds great.
I'm currently trying to establish a likeminded , prepared!, collaborative group homestead/community in ontario....hopefully in advance of the need to BO.
Sharing the intent/project would solve the minor problem of buying it, but of course the comfort-zone stretch for many of us individualistic types is the ability to communicate/collaborate.
Best of luck , any way you go!
I would be asking myself a lot of questions . So what exactly is the minor problem of buying it if it is perfect and a steal price wise , the fact you would have to leave jobs that provide your means of living? It might seem perfect in summer, have you considered how perfect it is in winter , or spring thaw rain and mud season ? Have you lived snowed in before? Are you fairly familiar with working large acreages in that kind of climate ? Say familiar with the machinery or self vetting animals if it is a ranch ? Is it fenced ? Is it close to community amenities or a town centre say if fuel were to go to $10 a gallon ?
I would be asking myself a lot of questions . So what exactly is the minor problem of buying it if it is perfect and a steal price wise , the fact you would have to leave jobs that provide your means of living? It might seem perfect in summer, have you considered how perfect it is in winter , or spring thaw rain and mud season ? Have you lived snowed in before? Are you fairly familiar with working large acreages in that kind of climate ? Say familiar with the machinery or self vetting animals if it is a ranch ? Is it fenced ? Is it close to community amenities or a town centre say if fuel were to go to $10 a gallon ?
Definitely valid questions. Key point as well, who do you go with? Human loneliness is a terrifying enemy. Hence the necessity of some sort of village structure.
Hey I live up in that area and what you find when you live out in an area like this is how helpful your neighbours are, hey you actually KNOW your neighbours. I need this do you have it or you need this I got it.
The winter is long but there is so much to do and with time you learn that you don't need all the suburb/city artificial distractions. It is a great way of life and depending on what you do for a living there is work up here you just have to get out and find it. Mills are working at 3 shifts. Plus the BIG thing I learned when I moved up here from the coast is I may of made more money down there but because of the different lifestyle....not so consumer orientated... I have more expendable cash up here.
Want a day doing something in the winter, pack up family put in x-country skies that are at the back door head out on to the lake bring ice fishing gear and spend afternoon catching your dinner. Connecting with your family. Not sitting at home watching TV/video games or spending money going to movie or what ever activity is happening in city that you are constantly having to hand over your hard earned money to pay for.
Yes the adjustment doesn't happen overnight but what a great life style!
what kind of recreational is up there? anyone else in? Would have to be bought out totally no mortgage no banksters.
I know there is a large number of large tracts of land for sale between Kamloops and Valemount.
I saw one advertised by the side of Hwy 5 south of Valemount back on the weekend - 128acres. I'd be interested to know what they want for it. Guess on my next trip through prior to Thanksgiving weekend, I'll have to record the phone number and call.
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Is what you say worth at least a Canadian nickel now?
Cause two cents ain't worth squat anymore !
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Self-sufficient is good. Co-efficient is better.
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70 mile house - 149 acres - $209,000 divide it by 7 people - 20 acres each 30,000 or 14 people - 10 acres each $15,000...less than a new trailer costs. Bug out location purchased you would use maybe 2 acres for your homestead and the rest pasture and hay fields.
What to do recreation...how much money do you have? All the lake activities - boating, kayaking, ATV, fishing, skiing, swimming, bar bq, neighbourhood parties, rodeos, horse back riding, volunteering fire fighter or community groups, etc... Fall - hunting, hiking, canning, putting up food for the winter, firewood, winter - x-country skiing, ice fishing, visiting with neighbours, weaving, painting, wood work, snow mobile, pick a hobby, etc.... only limited by your imagination.
Property taxes are low....people with lake front property high in the thousands the rest of us in the hundreds. Depends what and where you are.
Yes you're in the snow but with global warming and Kamloops or Williams Lake plus 100 mile, cash creek, not that far away it's not like you've been dropped in the middle of nowhere. Country stores are well stocked. Shouldn't go on telling too much about the good life or everyone will want to move to the country. I would rent and try it out first to see if you are cut out for this life style it is a big change. Some really love it and others don't, guess it's what you're looking for.
It's the kind of thing, enuff, of which dreams are made - for some.
Personally, I think if a "co-operative style" contract could be arranged for the purchase of the land, I'm all for it.
But ... wouldn't it all depend on zoning of the large tract of land to see if the main parcel could be "sub-parcelled"?
It is either that; or, a person with the "coin" buys the entire acreage outright and then sub-divides into parcels for re-couping their purchase price.
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Is what you say worth at least a Canadian nickel now?
Cause two cents ain't worth squat anymore !
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Self-sufficient is good. Co-efficient is better.
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There is a group down the road from me that the land is 200 acres and I'm not sure how many people have bought into it. They are all on the land title and then they picked where they wanted to have their cabin and build what they want....it's all lake front. They are almost all seasonal except for a couple of families that have moved there permanently and there is a couple that are the care takers. There are pastures and hay fields that everyone can use. They have once a year general meeting to vote on different things, discuss what is happening and it seems to work for them.
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well, that sounds cool. Given that all are listed on the land title, they each get their equitable share of land for their investment.
Plus, it sounds like they have an informal "co-op" arrangement.
p.s. was talking with friends in town last night, and the Gov of Canada allows a person to take advantage of the Home Buyer's Plan repeatedly, i.e. using money from your RRSP as a down-payment, as long as you follow the guidelines and restrictions for doing so.
Apparently, I satisfy the criteria. Yahoo! So ... I'm thinking of dipping into my RRSPs again.
I've some savings set aside, but wasn't wanting to use it all as a downpayment on a place for fear of depleting my reserves.
But using the RRSPs .... Well, just another means for taking my own money away from government control and converting it into something useful.
p.s. I want to go buy land with a bungalow / cabin out in the country-side - within a 45 to 60 minute commute from SE Edmonton.
So, if anyone knows of land for sale ..., please let me know.
I'm already in the process of searching MLS.
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Is what you say worth at least a Canadian nickel now?
Cause two cents ain't worth squat anymore !
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Self-sufficient is good. Co-efficient is better.
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Money is the big bugaboo and a partnership arrangement has it's pitfalls; maybe something like this would work: Using the B.C. Societies Act (or whatever they call it), form a legal society with limited 'shares'.
For sake of argument: Ten shares and a monthly fee (dues) (like a strata co-op) which would furnish capital for land purchase and a monthly income for taxes, exspences etc.. Each share-holder (member) would be entitled to a place for member, spouse, children (+spouses) and their children. You could expect an end population ( at SHTF bug-out time) of 50 to 150 people on site.
Or a cheaper way to go would be to lease property for 10 to 20 years. After SHTF, yours by right of possession. Call yourselves the "Heiritage Homestead Rehabilitation Society" or some such and develop nineteenth century technology on the land.Or the "Off Grid Society". (who needs permits if you don't need B. C. Hydro?)
Set up regulations and bylaws to cover such things as transferring shares, errant dues payers, inheiritances, expectations, sanitation etc. The 10 members would elect a board from themselves and be the 'ruling council'. Come SHTF, you already have a government in place. A lawyer would advise what is legal (pre-society) and guarantee legal/financial security.
All that is needed is a minimum of four committed individuals, "true-believers" that would make this happen. Where to start? Get a copy of the Society Act (library or online I bet you). What do you think?
My fiancee and were up in the interior near 100 mile for the weekend and found a perfect property.
174 acres. Its an original homestead. Partially restored log cabins and barn. Off grid (probably was never hooked up) has a diesel gen and solar to the modular home, with a creek running thru the property. She loves it cause it will make a perfect ranch. I love it, for all the self reliant opportunities. And compared to prices down here, its a steal at only $289K. Just a minor problem of buying it.... Lol
Have you thought about forming a co-op. There are alot of people looking for the same thing.

