Hi all. I am looking for cheap website ect, to make up my bugout bag.
If anyone knows of website or stores within Canberra that's not going to break the bank that would be good ....... Thanks 😀
Sorry I don't know of any but WildE or Ranger might.
Like Ranger said, Army Surplus
Army Surplus Hardware Store Farmer Store
You don't have or need an Army Surplus store although they help lots. Now you do have a few other stores there, like the hardware stores or farmers stores, even dollar stores there. Really those stores have just about everything you need as well. You need a BOB (Bug out Bag), Go Bag (normally in car, because it goes with you) DODGE (get out of Dodge bag) which is a full everything bag. Now I suggest at least an alternative to the Car/Van as everything will be blocked by others. So how about bicycles with trailers, motorcycles, ATV's, all with or without trailers. Relocate to a remote area, join the comunity for no single person or small group can stop the angry hordes of Zombies. Zombies = non Preppers or Survivalists out to steal or kill you for your food. Of course that is in the absolute worse case scenarios.
look up;
cat can stoves
penny stoves
wood gasification stoves
hobo stoves
Fondue pot sets with the alcohol burner - very good and portable, can also be used in a regular can that is modified
use denatured alcohol - methyl hydrate - high test rubbing alcohol - 90-95% proof buy it by the gallon.
there are your stoves.
Fire
matches - regular since they are cheap
matches wind proof
matches water proof
zippy style lighter (remember it evaporates so test it, then keep small bottle of fluid with it)
extra flints - cheap now, get lots
regular lighter
torch lighter
small torch
magnesium fire sticks with strikers
secondary magnesium fire sticks with strikers (yup.. double up)
one handed stickers, just saw them, cheap easy to use, wet-dry-cold
Vaseline/chap stick/
rub onto
cotton balls/dryer lint
put into zip lock bags
> make some char cloth, very easy to do, youtube how to do this
Shelter
cheap poly tarp to start
search for good quality ground sheets
get good quality tarps
get better quality canvas tarps
light portable small good quality tent
look for self contained canvas tents
> I now have 3, a. 10x8 b.10x10 c. 5x5 bell style older camper style
>why, long lasting, great quality, easy to maintain, will not die in the sun in one year, easy to insulate
>cons, little heavier, if you have a vehicle not too bad
Water
2x military water bottles with the cup and holder - a must.. with these and these along you can survive in the wilderness
water purification tabs
water purification units - portable filtration units such as;
>life straws such as http://aquamira.com/preparedness/aquamira-frontier-filter/product-technology
>larger home style filtration units like the Berky or Big Berky
>youtube and instructables.com have info sessions about creating your own Berky style for cheap
>water containers, do not get the little bottles they are not eco friendly and are not safe
>>bigger 3-5gal water containers, big blue and grey barrels
>harvest rainwater -after 2 minutes or so the water is pure, harvest from a tarp or roof, there are lots of devices out there to help, such as rain water diverters.
huge list on water enjoy this link and memorize it, you can live without food, minimum shelter only for up to 30 days but only 3-6 days with no water!
http://www.endtimesreport.com/waterarticle.html
Food
every time you buy food get some extra
> example; I bought some foil packaged portion fish at a store for $3 per bag, got two of them, tasty and long lasting
two weeks later, at dollar store same fish, 4-6yr expiriry, for .99c each, got 50
dehydrated foods
ready to eat meals
MREs - good for about 2-3 meals each package, so they are not too bad then at $8-$10 for one MRE, div by 3 meals
now start making your own ready to eat meals
Tools Knives
Caution; having a bad knife is worse than no knife!
folding blades with NO locks are bad, exceptions are the Swiss Army Knives and Multi tools
> use with caution and I never really use the knife anyways
Knife sharpener system
folding knives over 3" with a locking blade
5"-8" regular style fixed blade, full tang as in full metal till the end of the handle (incase you did not know what a full tang meant)
K-bar, kbar awesome US Marine, WWII fighting and utility knife.
Big Bush knife 8"-14" yup you read it right
cutting down small trees, battoning etc
Kukri Knifes and Kukri Machete.
also spelled Khukuri (gurkha knife)![]()
MTech Kukri knife similar to mine but mine has a wood handle
Custom Makers so support local;
that being said they are also more expensive but if the maker is good, you get what you pay for and more
Cold Steel
MTech similar brand than the Cold Steel but very good, US company but made in China. I have quite a few of their knives and like them a lot! Have not broken or hurt any of them yet.
MTech is a division of MASTER CUTLERY
* Hatchets are dangerous!!
> why, top/front heavy so you miss a lot with them, no fulcrum action, many injuries to people especially kids with them
Tomahawks are better and can be used in a Defensive way as well.
Kukri's are great can be used for most anything, but learning to through one, takes lots and lots of practises. You will ruin you good one, while learning to do this.
Here is an excellent link to a company in Nepal who exports and creates Kukris, follow the link to see some info on how to use and sharpen them.
http://www.gurkhas-kukris.com/khukuri/
Tools general
pry bar
ax
rope
thin gauge wire
lots and lots of bits
Cold Steel Russian Army Spetsnaz Shovel (multi uses from digging to fighting, can also be thrown effectively )
Moe to follow, this will be a work in process, I will also add more images to this later.
Fishing gear small porty
trapping gear small porty
sleeping gear
slingshot/slingbow/take down bow with arrows
Dogs
Dog pack as in Dog Back Pack (mine is a two part system, one part is the pack other part is the harness system)
-> great system, take off the pack for breaks and throw it back on quickly when you need to move out. Keeps the dog fresher and quick apply system keeps your temper under control!
Dog coat/blanket, even they get cold and wet, especially short hair dogs. You make them work, rub them down at night, through on their coat and it can be used as their bed as well for less cold nights
* you have a dog that is asleep, but still able to awake and alert you to the Zombie Hordes
water container/food container
collapseable food bowl or small rigid metal water bowl that nests with the food bowl
-> reason, you can heat up the bowl if the water freezes in cold weather
food, make them carry some of their own food, daily rations at least
fire making kit/first aid kit/utility knfe/bug screen/sun screen
Bicycle
Bike Pack
Bike Trailer
spare tire/spare inner-tubes/wheel change kit/tire patch kit
front rack/back rack
bike with trailer hitch for attaching trailers/sleds/wagons/etc
Vehicle kit
yes your bug out bag, now lets see to the car/vans survival as well
tire repair kit
small porty 12v air compresser
first aid kit
engine oil/transmission oil/wind-shield fluid/brake fluid/
Navigation
Silva Compass and maps
EDIT:
now I have added some stuff that you can not find at a local hardware store, although you can find or order 98% of this stuff from Canadian Tire, maybe there is an Auzzy Tire?
look around and get creative
EDIT: FOOD FOR BOB
BOB food suggestions
Rations are great and fairly affordable is you can conserve the package and use it for 2-3 meals. The following is a list of some other items that are great and more traditional to be added into your BOB Bug Out Bag – your Dodge Back as in Get out of Dodge.
Look up how to make;
Bannock
Hard Tack
beef or turkey jerky
billtong – see South Africa
add in high protein jams
soldier fuel bars a Canadian company who has their product in Canadian Rations & maybe US rations?
foil pouches of fish, some are dated for over 10yrs, I picked some up at a dollar store for $1 each WallyWorld was selling them for $3 each (bought 25 of each flavour)
TVP
powdered soup – chicken-beef
angle hair pasta – easy to make better than those little ramen packs for taste and health
some Seasoning eg, taco, bbq rub etc for extra flavour
Hemp Hearts – Hemp Seeds
Honey Cakes with fortified with nuts and berries, packaged up in sealer = last up to 10yrs
Christmas Cake, it was designed to be able to be stored for up to 5yrs in paper alone for Troops in WWI
you can use Tuna Cans as stated above, stronger than pop cans,
get some solid fuel as well as some Methyl Hydrate 90% (denatured alcohol) or higher, repackage the mouth to make it even more airtight.
vac pack it all, put in Tyvec packages you can make yourself
Gun Tape/Tuck tape it all (Al Green eat your heart out on that one)
plus some regular BOB things
one of the most overlooked items is a small pair of pliers that can cut wire! That is a must.
P51 or a Canadian Can opener
The Canadian Version is over twice the height designed to be used in the Artic with mitts and gloves on, and just generally feels easier to use.
So I forgot about this post and made another! Well now, I will just have to merge them later in one big post.
http://wildernessreturn.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/no-army-surplus-store-improvise/
That's quite nice!
I think we should take note of the number of fire starting options WildE gave in the list. In many survival situations fire will be very important. It can keep you warm and therefore save your life from hypothermia. Also, boiling water for purification comes to mind. Not forgetting a signal fire (if you want to be found) or lighting up a rocket stove (if you don't want to be found). Fire starters are very susceptible to the elements, so having as many options as possible is important.
With the exception of the MRE's
all of the things listed can be found, or made from items at Hardware Stores and Dollar Stores, and the like.
Dollar stores have their place for example, Dollerama here sells awesome LED lights for Umbrella Tables. Works the best!
get 4 cheapo sun powered lamps, take them apart, remove the bulb, now you have 4 AA sized sun powered recharges. Takes One day in bright sunny or two days in not so bright conditions.
They also sell cheapo survival blankets, the shiny ones and now are selling cheapo survival tubes, for $2 can't go wrong grab a few.
Note: the cheapo survival blankets, can be linked together, inside a tent, shiny side down to reflect heat, so even lightweight tents can be easier to heat in winter and stay cooler in summer, try it!
Thanks WildE great info once again
I think I will print off you list and use it as a check list 🙂
The list is not quite finished yet,
will update as I remember too!
There is one addition that most people will tend to forget, medicated cream for common skin irritations. PENATEN, is a good one and comes in a 55g tin. Great for those who get heat rash between the legs or else where. 😳
"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."
Awesome list WildE...I just printed it out (quite ashamed of my BOB preps now) Good job to keep me busy - Thanks.
Russell Coight....outback legend
I did not post this to make anyone Ashamed! I posted it to assist, help you out and help me out as some items I do not have yet either.
Just try to add on or two things a week to it.
Also need to know other things for a Bug out Bag as well, such as;
location in the world there would be variations
purpose of the BOB
why are you bugging out
destination of the bug out location
how many people with you
alone or part of a group
size of person with the BOB
winter/summer/spring
duration of stay at location
type of location you are going to and resources there
mode of transportation
bugs at location
wild animals at location
Zombies at location
is location a One person remote camp, part of existing camp with others, part of a general small population and small village or clan setup, defensibility of the location, Height from Sea Level (does make a big difference actually, over a certain Ft Level),
type of terrain; desert/forest/jungle/urban/wilderness etc
etc etc
Aussies can try:
Aussie disposals, Ray's Outdoors, Anaconda, Kathmandu Australia.
Plus cheaper options: country/rural hardware shops, fishing tackle stores in small coastal regions, secondhand goods stores, garage sales, reject shops and bargain basements. Don't forget the "for sale" ads in local papers and "gumtree".
Russell Coight....outback legend
One thing that I was contemplating, was making a luggage carrier for my backpack. Much like a golf bag rig but with a wider wheel base. As much as I would like to think that I could haul everything thats in my BOB. I am a realist, and know that I would have a heart attack by the time that I got to the end of the block. A bicycle trailer, convertion to rickshaw and hooked up to Wild E's dog (Big) would do the trick. 😉 
"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."
I did not post this to make anyone Ashamed! I posted it to assist, help you out and help me out as some items I do not have yet either.
Just try to add on or two things a week to it.Also need to know other things for a Bug out Bag as well, such as;
Zombies at location
etc etc
😆 awesome... one of those low probability - high impact situations...

