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peppercorn
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we are having weeks now of such mild temps, I have let the wood stoves go out, low of -5 or so just don't warrant loading up the wood stoves to take a little chill off. I use the propane cook stove burners, turned on to low settings and thats keeping the house comfy. I do it every year but this year way more than in others as it so mild, mostly leave one (stove) on overnight. Anyone else doing the same? Propane is cheaper than burning wood right now, 35 dollars (aprox) for a hundered pounder filled.


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Is there any concern about carbon monoxide?



   
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peppercorn
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Is there any concern about carbon monoxide?

Never found it to be a problem, I did have a fluke carbon monoxide detector that I tested things with, the only way I ever got a reading (even then little) was if I used (I don't) a natural gas orifice in the oven while running the stove on propane. my experience is if the flame is blue, everything is running proper for complete combustion of the propane. The more yellow the flame has in it, then something isn't adjusted right and you can have a problem but its pretty self evident, odd flicker with yellow in it not a big deal, but a steady state yellow condition of the flame should be checked out.....I have used a "kiddie" or "kiddy" brand of tester from CT, 35.00 dollars, while I believe they are accurate as tested against my fluke, I don't have measurement confidence in them if they are more than 4 years old or so....not based on any failures I have seen just a hunch, there is a reason the flukes cost 600.00, and stability over time is one reason.


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Still using wood...a small fire in the morning and another small one in the evening and we're good to go.



   
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peppercorn
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Well oddly enough after I posted the above a friends furnace quit the next day and they called the gas company to come out and check out their furnace, thinking it was a gas problem, while waiting they called me and asked if I would pop over, and I ofcourse said do you have beer...they did so I did, in looking things over I figured out the glow bar igniter wasn't getting power, traced the problem to the circuit board driver circuit, got the part number off the board and told my friend to call around to furnace repair places for a price on a new board, and to call the gas company and cancel the call as the problem was with the furnace not the supply. Well he forgot to cancel the gas company, because he was being quoted 475 to 500 dollars (plus labour) for a new board from suppliers in Ponoka, Leduc and Edmonton and was not a happy camper. while he was phoning around, I looked closer and the fault on the board was from a spdt 120volt relay, (common part). I didn't have a pc mount one but I did have one I could wire some leads on, then solder the leads to the board, so while he kept phoning around I fixed up the board and just tye straped the relay to the wiring harness and gave it a test and it fired right up. So everyone was happy...then the doorbell rang, and that's when he remembered he hadn't cancelled the gas company call.....I say this just to explain how I got to talk with someone who should know..... He said since he was there he would just check everything over anyway, no charge just customer service, part of the job sort of thing.... so I got see his tester ( don't get dirty thoughts) and ask lots of questions....so from someone who should know...they aparrently get called out all the time due to co/smoke alarm problems....the ones that have the carbon monoxide detector in with the smoke alarm are the worst he said, he advises to get a separate carbon monoxide detector (better quality)and there lifespan is limited, they are prone to giving false positives as they age,and on older ones low battery would give a false positive,though he does recommend the new kidde ones that he said are good for 10 years, he had some in his service truck so he gave me one and my friend one. He confirmed my experience (I am still alive) that a rich blue flame is what you want and you will have no problems, tells me improper burning is pretty obvious (yellow flame) He said the consumer products are set to alarm at low settings (he said the setting but I don't remember for sure).He said the consumer products were slower responding than profesional grade testers.
So I got to use the detector he gave me today... burners on med and ran for 1 hour, as you can see on my stove nice blue flame and 0 ppm. (I Think he said 100ppm is where consumer products alarm at )

Strangely enough the package itself doesn't say at what level it will alarm at, he said the first symptom is a killer head ache/and weakness, that info doesn't help me much cause it just sounds like a hang over, but for the rest of you it might be helpful.

Just for general interest.....no one would just sell my friend the board...the crooks all said there would be no warranty on the part unless one of their trained technicians 🙄 didn't come out and install it, so they would charge him 500 for the board + 300 minimium est labour charge


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