Lamp Oil / Kerosene

Kerosene is not high on my list. I do have some lamps, but prefer rechargeable electric lights or rechargeable batteries in electric lights.
I keep only a couple gallons on hand, usually bought at my local farm/building supply.

Thanks Denob. I too have several led lights/lanterns. I've heard however that an EMP (from man-made or solar flare) can induce high currents and voltages that will damage batteries and electrical devices (even though they are turned-off) during detonation. I'm no expert when it comes to this, but as it was explained to me, it can be similar to a lightning strike, where circuits are exposed to high voltage when turned-off. In any regard, I've felt that a back-up method of light/heat is prudent...

Back ups are always important, however the effects of EMP are one of the most overexagerated topics in the prepper community.
Solar flares simply don't cause the type of EMP that damages electrinics directly. High induced currents could damage connected electrical devices, however fusing and other protections are in place. In 1989, a solar flare caused the electrical grid to go down in Quebec for several hours. Hydro Quebec has since made some adjustments and added protection. Solar flares of higher magnatude have occurred since with no effect on the electrical grid whatsoever.
More and more research and testing is being done on the effects of EMP. Several years ago, there was a test done on typical vehicles (both running and not). The test showed that vehicles not running at the time were not affected. Of those tested while running, only a very few were dammaged beyond use. Most simply needed to be restarted.
As for smaller items, such as LED flashlights, testing shows no effects. Simple faraday cages or bags work well for other items.
Watch this test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKsAj0K5c0I&list=PLlRPtB4nbqt8nGTPdg1PrJNgqVntpGt0C

There seems to me much misinformation available on-line about EMP and the resultant effects involved. Thanks for your insight Denob.

There was some large jugs of Kero on sale at Bumper to Bumper and Walmart after the winter season. I really can't remember how much I paid but those sounded like reasonable deal and I got a jug at each place. Canadian Tires always had some but prices were not necessarily that great.

As for jet fuel, there are some small airports that are self-serve, swipe your own credit cards kind of deal. I suppose you could get a few gas cans worth at a decent price. If you want, PM me your rough location and I can see if there is such kind of fuel service nearby (within a couple hundred KMs).

As for jet fuel, there are some small airports that are self-serve, swipe your own credit cards kind of deal. I suppose you could get a few gas cans worth at a decent price. If you want, PM me your rough location and I can see if there is such kind of fuel service nearby (within a couple hundred KMs).

I just gotta ask...aside from owning a jet plane...whats the purpose of having jet fuel? I"m genuinely curious. (No "life of the party around the campfire" jokes please. 😉 )

It's kerosene.

Well... full disclosure, I'm around 1000s of gallons of jet fuel every single day and I never thought of this a source of oil lamp fuel.. (face palm!!!). I even drain cup fulls every day as part of pre flights, so there is a tank full of wasted fuel I could store for lamps for free!!!

Try it in a oil lamp first, you may find the sulfur content to high to use. Of course not everyone is sensitive to the sulfur content.

Back ups are always important, however the effects of EMP are one of the most overexagerated topics in the prepper community.
Solar flares simply don't cause the type of EMP that damages electrinics directly. High induced currents could damage connected electrical devices, however fusing and other protections are in place. In 1989, a solar flare caused the electrical grid to go down in Quebec for several hours. Hydro Quebec has since made some adjustments and added protection. Solar flares of higher magnatude have occurred since with no effect on the electrical grid whatsoever.
More and more research and testing is being done on the effects of EMP. Several years ago, there was a test done on typical vehicles (both running and not). The test showed that vehicles not running at the time were not affected. Of those tested while running, only a very few were dammaged beyond use. Most simply needed to be restarted.
As for smaller items, such as LED flashlights, testing shows no effects. Simple faraday cages or bags work well for other items.
Watch this test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKsAj0K5c0I&list=PLlRPtB4nbqt8nGTPdg1PrJNgqVntpGt0C

Interesting video. Of consumer products, things like comunication devices are the most suseptical to induced voltage as they are already designed to amplify incoming signals. Note that nothing actualy failed, one device rebooted itself and I suspect one other went in to latch up, but was put back into service by removing the battery and repowering it back up. No big deal.
Also listen to that arc in the video, I said to myself what the hell are they firing that arc to ? I guessed by the sound it made and distance it arced across the light bulb contacts it was north of 50, 000 volts. I went looking for more of their videos to see if they mentioned the voltage and found one where they say that they are firing that arc to 100 000 volts!! that is huge, just saying.

The mid 90s cell phones were becoming popular, popular enough companies would want their sales reps to have one so they could stay in touch, but companies being cheap often bought the lowest quality. The sales reps hated the cheap things. Word got out that I had built a device that could without leaving a mark, destroy electronic equipment (It was for other purposes). Anyway I soon had sales reps coming around and for a 6 pack I would sap their phones for them, so their companies would buy them better quality. I cant remember the companies, I think it was Century supply, Maybe Acklands, maybe both, I dont remember for sure..statute of limitations must be up by now.

Anyway here is the video where they say what they are firing the arc too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbHK6Uqmzog this I think does work out to 50 000 volts/meter and from memory that was the absolute maximum voltage under ideal conditions a perfectly placed emp could produce (only) directly below it if centered directly above the geographic center of the USA. Not sure what cesspool of a US state that would be. Nebraska??

Keep in mind this company is trying to sell you something, their product, and you can see it, or I should say you cant see it because they hid it behind a piece of cardboard (on the leads near the junction box) when they tested that solar panel with injected voltage, so they do have a interest in making emp look like a greater problem (without there product) than it really is for hooked up panels. They are also selling line protection so thats why they are showing injected rather than induced over voltage...implying a greater threat to grid connected homes. A more honest or I should say acurate test of high freq/injected voltage is to do it before the iron core step down transformer on your yard pole!! but whatever....

I am more worried about lightening than emp or solar flares. You can do everything right and lightening can still zap you.So many people are going to be so dissappointed by how little damage a emp does to their consumer products. IMHO

Well... full disclosure, I'm around 1000s of gallons of jet fuel every single day and I never thought of this a source of oil lamp fuel.. (face palm!!!). I even drain cup fulls every day as part of pre flights, so there is a tank full of wasted fuel I could store for lamps for free!!!

I'll try to source this at CFB Shearwater. I didn't think of this because they previously used the Sea King helicopters which used JP-4. This was unusable in kerosene heaters because JP-4 is a 50/50 mixture of kerosene and gasoline (with traces of naphtha). With the advent of the new helicopters, I suspect that they are using JP-5 or JP-8, so that's a source I'll look into.

I use lamp oil (paraffin) for lamps only. I've found the supply for high quality lamp oil in short supply and expensive. Thanks for your suggestions.

I had no idea...and a simple google search could have saved me a little embarrassment. lol.

Good time for a refresher on the gospel of St Miles. It's a long read, but it is going to save you money.

http://www.milesstair.com/kero_fuel_primer.html#JET%20A